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[aaronjb]

Apparently this was brought in with the description "The engine died at 70 on the motorway"



Yes, that's a sump full of pistons and rods.

No, all the garage did was take the sump off and find that (after they noted the big holes in the block) 

[Varche]

Fantastic. There must be a few bits there that could be expertly repaired ( The Repair Shop maybe?)

[STEMO]

I'll bet that made a noise when it let go.

[Nick W]

I'll bet that made a noise when it let go.

I'll bet the racket it would have been making before it let go was even more impressive!

[TheBoy]

Bit of superglue, that'll be like new

[iansoutham]

What car?

[aaronjb]

What car?

MINI - I assume with the N14/N18 Peugeot/BMW Alliance engine.. at least it was in a MINI group, so I assume that much 

[Andy B]

What car?

MINI - I assume with the N14/N18 Peugeot/BMW Alliance engine.. at least it was in a MINI group, so I assume that much 

Is that the MINI/BMW engine in SWMBO's 1600 twin cam petrol Citroen? 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Looks like someone slipped it into 1st gear at 70 on the motorway.

[Andy B]

Looks like someone slipped it into 1st gear at 70 on the motorway.

I managed to put a Sierra Sapphire into 1st instead of 3rd at around 50/55mph ..... fortunately it was a hire car!   

[aaronjb]

What car?

MINI - I assume with the N14/N18 Peugeot/BMW Alliance engine.. at least it was in a MINI group, so I assume that much 

Is that the MINI/BMW engine in SWMBO's 1600 twin cam petrol Citroen? 

That's the one.. known for eating timing chains, valve stem seals, valve guides, coking up the intake tract because it's direct injection so the intake ports & valves need walnut blasting every 40k, awful PCV setup, high pressure fuel pump dies every 70k, etc etc.. other than that it's a great little engine

[Andy B]

....

That's the one.. known for eating timing chains, valve stem seals, valve guides, coking up the intake tract because it's direct injection so the intake ports & valves need walnut blasting every 40k, awful PCV setup, high pressure fuel pump dies every 70k, etc etc.. other than that it's a great little engine

Oh!  I wish I'd not asked now! Ignorance is bliss as they say!
Hers is a 60 plate and around 35k miles IIRC, apart from a new ......
water pump,
'thermostat' (it's actually a motorised ECU controlled valve)
oil leak from the solenoid feeding oil to the variable cam,
temp sensor - there's a mod for that,
cam sensor
it's an auto but stalls when cold at the same place every time when she's off to work - restarts OK & is OK then all day.
  Citroen will replace 2 solenoids in the g/box for £600 plus to fix  ..... she lives with it 
other than that it's a great little car 

I buggered up the 'fan belt' drive to the water pump cos I didn't know the set up ..... that was another £few hundred 

[aaronjb]

Oh yes, the water pump drive is interesting, isn't it! Does nothing until the ECU tells it to start driving the water pump.. I've done the timing chain, accessory belt, valve stem seals, PCV, rocker cover gasket, plugs; I had the garage do the water pump (because I was in Seattle at the time, so a bit hard to do it from there ) the transfer pipe across the back and the "thermostat" all at the same time (made sense)..

There's an oil leak from around the vacuum pump (common fault) as well that I really must look at, but is currently fairly minor.. it's also an auto but so far doesn't stall

It was either the MINI or a DS3 .. but since they share an engine, it didn't really matter which pile of trouble she brought home for me to fix

[YZ250]

I'm familiar with that sight from my Ford hooning around days many moons ago. My experience was usually a misfire, followed by a metallic screech (as it seized up), a clattering as the con rods bent and then sheared the skirt off the piston and clattered in the bores. The slapping about shears the main bearing end of the rods and you are left with the mess you see before you. The rods that hang on punch a hole through the bore. My Pistons were still in the bore.
Back in those days you always had a spare engine sat in the garage for such occasions as this, as nobody ever notified DVLA of an engine change. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm familiar with that sight from my Ford hooning around days many moons ago. My experience was usually a misfire, followed by a metallic screech (as it seized up), a clattering as the con rods bent and then sheared the skirt off the piston and clattered in the bores. The slapping about shears the main bearing end of the rods and you are left with the mess you see before you. The rods that hang on punch a hole through the bore. My Pistons were still in the bore.
Back in those days you always had a spare engine sat in the garage for such occasions as this, as nobody ever notified DVLA of an engine change. 

Do they these days then? 

[Nick W]

What car?

MINI - I assume with the N14/N18 Peugeot/BMW Alliance engine.. at least it was in a MINI group, so I assume that much 

Is that the MINI/BMW engine in SWMBO's 1600 twin cam petrol Citroen? 

That's the one.. known for eating timing chains, valve stem seals, valve guides, coking up the intake tract because it's direct injection so the intake ports & valves need walnut blasting every 40k, awful PCV setup, high pressure fuel pump dies every 70k, etc etc.. other than that it's a great little engine

that all sounds so German.
Imagine the excuses that we would still be hearing if BMW had produced the K-series and not Rover

[TheBoy]

Looks like someone slipped it into 1st gear at 70 on the motorway.

I managed to put a Sierra Sapphire into 1st instead of 3rd at around 50/55mph ..... fortunately it was a hire car! 

I did similar in a MkII Belmont, only it was nearer 70mph. And it was my car.

[Kevin Wood]

What car?

MINI - I assume with the N14/N18 Peugeot/BMW Alliance engine.. at least it was in a MINI group, so I assume that much 

Is that the MINI/BMW engine in SWMBO's 1600 twin cam petrol Citroen? 

That's the one.. known for eating timing chains, valve stem seals, valve guides, coking up the intake tract because it's direct injection so the intake ports & valves need walnut blasting every 40k, awful PCV setup, high pressure fuel pump dies every 70k, etc etc.. other than that it's a great little engine

that all sounds so German.
Imagine the excuses that we would still be hearing if BMW had produced the K-series and not Rover

It's worse than that. It's part German, part French.

[Andy B]

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It's worse than that. It's part German, part French.

 

It could've been even worserer ..... we used to have a FIAT on the drive! 

[Entwood]

Looks like someone slipped it into 1st gear at 70 on the motorway.

I managed to put a Sierra Sapphire into 1st instead of 3rd at around 50/55mph ..... fortunately it was a hire car! 

I did similar in a MkII Belmont, only it was nearer 70mph. And it was my car.

The father of a lass I was going out with in 1971 had a beautiful Jenson FF which he used to take up and down the A1 near Ripon at somewhat silly speeds... when someone pulled out in front of him when he was doing (so he says) a "mere 90", he manually stuffed it into a very low gear (it was an auto) .... where by there was a series of loud bangs and the engine died ... his words ....  car was recovered to the dealers (which he owned) and was the cause of much looking and amazement ... there "appeared" to be hardly any damage at all ... except for 7 holes in the bonnet, and all 8 sparkplugs were absent !!

Cut a long story short .. the car was eventually written off as the engine/gearbox/both diffs and the whole drive train were beyond repair as each was examined ... and when they tried to fit new they would not mate .... it was eventually found the the whole body was "twisted" about 4 degress out of true !!

It was (somewhow) calculated that the engine had hit nearly 30,000 rpm, that the valves could not keep up, and that the pressure in the cylinders was sufficient to, eventually, blow the spark plug threads clean off, so the plugs left like bullets !!

The stress of all four wheels shoving that amount of energy "backwards" must have been amazing !! I was lucky .. he had let me drive it once, for an hour, the week before !! Amazing car for a 20 year old to drive !!