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mick beck

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My Meggy wont start
« on: 11 March 2007, 12:34:11 »
Parked her up in the garage yesterday tried to start her today. She winds over ok, all the dash lights come on but the eml and battery light stay on. Can anyone please help me  
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #1 on: 11 March 2007, 12:51:44 »
Does it sound like it's trying to fire?

Can you check the fault codes

Non-starting is often crank sensor related
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #2 on: 11 March 2007, 20:07:50 »
Well we need the codes, but the usual culprit is the crank sensor....

What year is it?
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #3 on: 11 March 2007, 20:15:15 »
If the EML stays on while cranking almost certainly crank sensor.  Even if you do get it started don't drive it until you're sure b/c it can flake out on you anywhere.
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #4 on: 11 March 2007, 20:50:15 »
I'm saying nothing.  :-X

What Laidback says though does sound like sense.
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #5 on: 11 March 2007, 20:59:38 »
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Even if you do get it started don't drive it until you're sure b/c it can flake out on you anywhere.
Like 700m from home, just outside Dijon, Central France ::)
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #6 on: 11 March 2007, 21:08:33 »
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Even if you do get it started don't drive it until you're sure b/c it can flake out on you anywhere.
Like 700m from home, just outside Dijon, Central France ::)

You need a 2.2  ::) Forgot to try it on Tunnies a few weeks ago  :(

Have you?  ;)
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #7 on: 12 March 2007, 10:43:00 »
Thanks guys, getting her up in the air today to get a better look. There is another sensor hanging down at the side of the oil filter! dunno why?,it's not in use tho. It's been like that since last August.  I aint got a tester for the codes, but i'll see what i can do when i get under her. She's a 2.5 v6 1998 cd and was running beautifully till now. If i dont have any joy i'll try and get a tester for the codes. Will get back to you on progress, Thanks again guys your help is much appreciated.
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #8 on: 12 March 2007, 11:14:13 »
You dont need a tester for the codes.....just short pins 4 and 6 together on the diag socket and the ECU will flash the codes out for you on the ECU light ......search on here for more details...
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #9 on: 12 March 2007, 15:33:01 »
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You dont need a tester for the codes.....just short pins 4 and 6 together on the diag socket and the ECU will flash the codes out for you on the ECU light ......search on here for more details...

In particular a nice little guide here...http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152601768

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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #10 on: 12 March 2007, 18:15:13 »
interesting ... it would appear on a 2000 facelift model, although it has a 16-pin connector and you get the codes if you short pins 5 & 6, the codes generated appear to be bosch motronic - they commence with 1 flash, then 2 flashes ... repeated 3 times ... so I assume this test will work on 2.5 and 3.0 engines, pre-facelift and post - the cut-off point would be the changeover to 2.6/3.2's ... ?
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #11 on: 12 March 2007, 19:07:07 »
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interesting ... it would appear on a 2000 facelift model, although it has a 16-pin connector and you get the codes if you short pins 5 & 6, the codes generated appear to be bosch motronic - they commence with 1 flash, then 2 flashes ... repeated 3 times ... so I assume this test will work on 2.5 and 3.0 engines, pre-facelift and post - the cut-off point would be the changeover to 2.6/3.2's ... ?
That should be the case.  It is the ECU that matters, and that is related more to the engine than the car.
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #12 on: 12 March 2007, 22:28:49 »
You can get the flash codes from the 2l as well but not the 2.2 or the 2.5TD BMW engine. Only on the petrol engines with an accelerator cable but not on any of the drive by wire ones. I think it's either pins 4 or 5 (both work) to pin 6.
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #13 on: 13 March 2007, 11:08:01 »
Good morning gents. I've done the paper clip test and it read * - ** = 12, and *** -* = 31 fiddled with the wires and hey presto! she's running. I will however get a fresh sensor in case it happens again. Thanks for all your help and suggestions, very appreciated  :y
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #14 on: 13 March 2007, 18:13:26 »
31 is normal for a car thats not started.  It doesn't necessarily mean that the crank sensor is knackered or OK....   ....with a v6 omega, always have a spare crank sensor in boot ;)
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #15 on: 13 March 2007, 21:18:17 »
I'd read the codes again now, you might have a 19 if the cable is faulty.
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #16 on: 13 March 2007, 21:22:43 »
The Boy; Thanks mate i intend to do that   :y, but i'll bet they're a bugger to fit at the top end  :exclamation
Will also check if there is a 19 fault code RPont, Thanks mate  :y
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Re: My Meggy wont start
« Reply #17 on: 13 March 2007, 21:25:11 »
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The Boy; Thanks mate i intend to do that   :y, but i'll bet they're a bugger to fit at the top end  :exclamation
Easy enough if you reroute cable out to abs unit and then back over (strapping to keep away from exhaust).  The original route is flawed as it is clipped to very hot oil pipes...
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