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« on: 26 September 2020, 22:39:14 »

Hi guys, it's been a while.
After owning lots of different cars, i came back to Omega..
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This one is 2002. 2.5 DTI (M57 110 kw BMW engine) 266k km on the clock, no faults no black or blue smoke on the exhaust, usual rust on dors and back wheel arches. Only two trim items missing are electro folding mirrors, telephone and rear but heaters.
Front arms need replacement ( boughted new), probably mufler(s) and that' it
One owner since new, 70year old guy who hasn't been able to drive for a while. She was sitting near Belgrade.I took it for a price of a new I phone, covered 800 km to see what needs to be done.
Now she is going to bee parked, she'l get total respray ( considering OPC Arden Blue), entherior rebuild, fitting original windscreen with UV protection and rain sensor, and some Irmscher bumpers ( if I manage to negotiate a good deal).
Plan is to buy another donor Omega for lot's of little things that need to be changed ( carpets, plastic trims, lights)
Also considering Keskin KT5 wheels.
In past years I owned lots of different cars ( E 300TD, Lancia Thesis 2.0T, Signum, Vectra, Peugeot 607, A6 2.0TDI Sline, etc) and none of them make me feel good while driving like Omega.
I'll try to post updates as I progres.
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« Reply #1 on: 28 September 2020, 20:45:10 »

It doesn't look too bad at all bodily!
I think the first job I would be doing is clearing out the scuttle drains - looks like there may be an accumulation of leaves in there which may cause a good few hours work to dry the interior out and / or replace the heater resistor as a result of heavy rain if the scuttle is blocked, rather than the few minutes to clear it as a precaution!
But then, I dont suppose you have the amount of rain we do in the UK..... :y
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« Reply #2 on: 28 September 2020, 22:14:18 »

It doesn't look too bad at all bodily!
I think the first job I would be doing is clearing out the scuttle drains - looks like there may be an accumulation of leaves in there which may cause a good few hours work to dry the interior out and / or replace the heater resistor as a result of heavy rain if the scuttle is blocked, rather than the few minutes to clear it as a precaution!
But then, I dont suppose you have the amount of rain we do in the UK..... :y
Serbia averages 2" less than the UK... although Lancastria is a rainforest ::)
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« Reply #3 on: 29 September 2020, 08:12:09 »

That's true.
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I think the first job I would be doing is clearing out the scuttle drains
First ting i've done. There was some dirt but for my surprise nothing special.
Carpets needs replacement. Car had coolant leakage ( service history says cabin radiator was replaced two years ago).
Drivers seat heating isn't working, still thinking should I try to fresh these seats up or to replace them.
Two parking sensors dont work, and I cant find speaker nowhere. First I'll try to remove rear bumper to check the wires.
Front suspension is nearly completed.I bought new front arms, steering rod ends, and stabilizers. Still deciding on switching to MV6 sport suspension..
After cleaning it looks little better..
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This is direction I am going for:
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« Reply #4 on: 29 September 2020, 14:24:06 »

I stared with striping, to see what can i expect.

Only one sensor is working, but wires look ok. Adding those on the list.

As far as I can see, this is the biggest rust isue. Floor looks good, only other rusty place is panel below spare tyre.
Rear bumper rod needs replacement. Exhaust seems ok but I sense some vibration on idle. Cant figure is it him or maybe engine mount or something else.
I also removed HU to clean the lenses. Bose is working fine as faar as I can tell.

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« Reply #5 on: 29 September 2020, 17:03:59 »

You've not taken the plastic sill/cill covers off yet then  :-\
 i'd expect rust looking at the rust you found so far
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« Reply #6 on: 29 September 2020, 17:26:23 »

Looks familiar, this







wasn't the problem, because it was hiding this:





and the holes in the sill were visible from the inside, without removing the cover. The other side was only better because there wasn't the hole in the door shut.


You might want to unclip the bumper and examine what's left of the wheelarch under it:


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« Reply #7 on: 29 September 2020, 21:24:42 »

Have had similar repair work done on mine.

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« Reply #8 on: 29 September 2020, 22:16:59 »

I'll start with plastic removal tomorrow, then we'll see are there any surprises..
I dont find this tragic for 18 Years old car. I had bigger rust issues two years ago with 2004 X type Estate imported from Holland..
Does anyone know is it possible to fit pre-facelift boot lip spoiler to facelift?

I am considering this one for donor car. It's not FL but it is full spec 2.5 TD manual..
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« Reply #9 on: 29 September 2020, 22:23:47 »

No, pre-facelift and facelift bootlids are different shapes and the spoilers are not interchangeable.
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« Reply #10 on: 30 September 2020, 11:21:39 »

Thanks pal!
As you predicted, this is inside look through that rust hole

Other side look's a lot better:

After removing side skirts I found another rusty place

This is passenger side corner near jack mounting point.

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« Reply #11 on: 07 October 2020, 11:24:22 »

I played with NCDC today.
As it refused to play any kind of CD-s I decided to clean the lenses.
I used only cotton cloth and distilled water. I also used scuba diving tank as air compressor to blow some of that dust off.



Result is fantastic. Both sockets work fine, reading even white Verbatim burned CD-s
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« Reply #12 on: 07 October 2020, 14:37:31 »

Good luck in this restoration!  :y
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« Reply #13 on: 07 October 2020, 20:04:15 »

Well done with the NCDC issue, I have managed to resurrect a few Nav drives by cleaning the lense properly in the same way  :y
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« Reply #14 on: 07 October 2020, 20:18:10 »

Thanks guys  ;)
Usually Cd changer refuse to cooperate, but as I can see this was the first time someone opened the unit. Al decals and warranty stickers were in place.
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« Reply #15 on: 07 October 2020, 22:44:04 »

Is the changer missing the flap?
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« Reply #16 on: 08 October 2020, 07:33:12 »

Yes. That's how it's been when i bought it. ( wasn't me that broke it I swear  ;D )
I'm chasing donor car anyway, those flaps are interchangeable between units I believe. Also I have CCR 2006 in parts sitting  somewhere..
Next problem are the seats. Passenger seat and rear bench have two small holes in leather. Drivers seat heater doesn't work.
Seats are fully electric, drivers with memory.
Cant' decide should I try to fix them or to replace them. Carpets have to go, but finding another seats with leather in good condition, and all the electrics working will bee tricky..
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« Reply #17 on: 08 October 2020, 08:15:49 »

Yes. That's how it's been when i bought it. ( wasn't me that broke it I swear  ;D )
I'm chasing donor car anyway, those flaps are interchangeable between units I believe. Also I have CCR 2006 in parts sitting  somewhere..

OK, Was going to say that I can send you a front bezel with CDC flap if needed  :y
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« Reply #18 on: 08 October 2020, 08:47:08 »

That's nice of you, but shipping to Serbia would cost more than full Bose setup anyway  :D
Those flaps cause problems even when they work.
I remember once I tried to change CD while driving. I managed to brake the gear that drives that flap and almost drive myself off the road.
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« Reply #19 on: 15 October 2020, 17:58:51 »

Donor car purchased yesterday.


Someone put 235 55 17 at the rear, 2cm wheel spacers and it didn't rub  ::)
2.5 DTI manual. 400K on the clock and still doing donuts  ;D
I started striping parts to complete mine car, than I'll sell what can bee sold, rest is going to bee scraped.
Both sets of alloys are for sale, cause i don't like them.
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« Reply #20 on: 16 October 2020, 18:04:14 »

Quick question:
I'm planning to replace drivers door. Donor car doesn't have Bose, rest is identical.
What are differences in wiring for front door speakers? If there is any..
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« Reply #21 on: 16 October 2020, 19:21:28 »

No difference in door wiring, just need to swap the 2Ohm Bose speaker over
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« Reply #22 on: 16 October 2020, 21:59:27 »

Thanks mate  :y
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« Reply #23 on: 13 April 2021, 16:46:41 »

Old girl is prepared for body shop.


Managed to switch drivers door by myself. It's not perfect fit but it's ok. I'll leave that to a professional..
Biggest rust issue, as far as I can see will be this spot underneath drivers feet. Every single OmegaI seen recetly has this problem. They mesed up something during production.

I'm considering to close this badge hole on the bonnet and just stick O M E G A without any other badging.

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« Reply #24 on: 13 April 2021, 16:58:15 »

Dirt and moisture collected in the channel that the bulkhead insert sits in.
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« Reply #25 on: 14 April 2021, 19:34:31 »

Nice to see the project is progressing, very few Omega projects happening / being documented these days  :'(
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« Reply #26 on: 15 April 2021, 07:34:10 »

Thanks!
I changed many different cars in past few years,and somehow I came back to Omega. It suits me, I can do almost everything by myself, parts are cheap. This is not going to be full restoration, as I plan to use her everyday. Plan is to stop the bodywork cancer, fix front suspension, engine mounts, ESP light came on for some reason, and that's it.
I'll stick to the original color, and I gave up on the Irmscher body kit, since I would have to remove it before every MOT ( regulations in Serbia became totally idiotic..)
If I manage to find better leather seats, I will replace mine, but that is not a priority. Two kids, (5 and 3) in the back are going to tear them apart anyway  :)
I am replacing fake mahogany trim with silver one from donor car, beige carpets are thrown away, and when I find some time i'm planing to insert some LED lights inside.
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« Reply #27 on: 28 April 2021, 13:16:22 »

Waiting for new pictures my dear country friend. 🙂
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« Reply #28 on: 28 April 2021, 17:41:00 »

Me too  :D
I'm planing to visit body shop tomorrow, I'm going to take some pictures..
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« Reply #29 on: 29 April 2021, 12:22:06 »

Work is progressing slowly and painfully..



Fun fact: Front left wheel arch can be used for rear right,they are almost identical.

Opel badge is not coming back on the boot definitely.

Bulkhead/firewall hole is still waiting to be sorted. Old filler is going to be brushed, and they'll try to push out that panel out little better than it was done before.
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« Reply #30 on: 25 May 2021, 07:43:26 »

Welding is done,
She should be resprayed at the end of the week,i hope..
Entire underbody and wheel arches are rust protected.
I hope I'll start with assembly on Monday.



I decided not to change the color. OPC Arden blue and BMW M blue were taken into consideration, but Omegas are becoming rare anyway, especially in this color.
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« Reply #31 on: 25 May 2021, 08:40:18 »

Good to see one being saved, look forward to seeing the car after it's respray  :y
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« Reply #32 on: 11 June 2021, 07:27:29 »

Respray almost completed. Still waiting for bumpers and side skirts and old lady is good to go.


I'we been playing with insulation material. I filled door panels, floor where it was possible, and some other places.

Now when I close door that ''click'' sound is much more solid. It should improve sound and temperature insulation and reduce vibrations. We'll see when I bring Bose back, and start driving.
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« Reply #33 on: 11 June 2021, 07:44:16 »

Looking much betterer  8)
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« Reply #34 on: 22 June 2021, 16:07:41 »



Passed MOT with ''Fluying colours''  ;D
If anyone is interested, MOT was 29 Pounds here in Serbia.
Basic insurance, registration, taxes, new licence plates etc 457.
Additional glass insurance will be around 36.
In total: 522 Pounds (I converted local dinar prices to pound). Transport to MOT place and back cost me only some time and some fuel,T-reg is mine, trailer was borrowed from a friend.
BTW AirMatic is fine I just parked it on uneven surface  :)
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« Reply #35 on: 22 June 2021, 16:51:39 »

Looks amazing. Love the blue omegas. I once had a prefacelift in Nocturn Blue (I think that was the name). It changed colour in different light. Much nicer than silver.
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« Reply #36 on: 14 August 2021, 12:15:53 »

Some (not so) good news about Omega.
In past weeks I'we changed oil, filters, both V belts, rollers, tensioners, front right engine mount, front arms, and faulty Turbo hose clamp.
I still feel some vibrations caused probably by small rear mounts under the transmission.

Couple days ago, while sitting on the traffic light, car suddenly staled, and I couldn't start it again. Towed her back, changed everything possible from donor car, cranck sensor, cam sensor, both fuel pumps, ECU, checked fuel lines, checked if there is pressure on fuel rail, there are no faults on "My Naff Code Reader", check engine doesn't light. I looked if the small chain isn't snapped, and everything looks ok.
She cranks normally but no start.
I lost ideas ( and energy) to figure  out what could be the problem . Guess I'll wait my repair guy to come back from holliday  :'(
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« Reply #37 on: 14 August 2021, 12:44:11 »

You might be getting pressure, but is it enough pressure?

Is there a filter on the lift pump? If not, there could be a partial blockage in the fuel lines.

Two other thoughts, is it a bad tank of diesel with alot of water in it? You did fill it with diesel and not petrol :-\
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« Reply #38 on: 14 August 2021, 13:06:43 »

Fuel is freshly added two weeks ago, she ran on it around 100 miles, tank is 1/3 full at this moment, but it did cross my mind to change the fuel anyway.
If it doesn't solve the problem, I could use that fuel in T-reg.
When I was checking lift pump I cleaned fuel filter, Pump is working normally. But I did notice that return fuel hose is not connected to anything, and I can't remember how is it supposed to be connected
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« Reply #39 on: 04 September 2021, 07:52:01 »

Update:
After more than a month, we managed to start that damn bmw engine. It turns out that High pressure fuel pump decided to die. I had a spare one from the donor car, but that's not the end of troubles.
Car starts fine, idles fine, revs fine, but after one minute of idling it starts to blow out lots and lots of white smoke.
Repair guy suspects on turbo, I lost all my will to deal with this,  and to put a cherry on top someone scratched entire bonnet and driver door while car was sitting in front of the repair shop...
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« Reply #40 on: 05 September 2021, 18:59:21 »

Seems such a pity to give up now after having come so far.Really sad that people[jealous??] feel the need to damage others property for no reason.
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« Reply #41 on: 05 September 2021, 21:35:32 »

I don't understand it ether. Car needs to go back to painter fore some minor fixes anyway so i hope he'll be able to fix that. Main problem is that smoke, I'm planing a road trip next weekend so I really hope that turbo rebuild will fix that.
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« Reply #42 on: 07 October 2021, 18:27:40 »

Poor bi*ch is on the road again.


I took her back today afternoon after turbo reassembling. I took her for a ride, she stopped smoking but now there is another problem.
Turns out that white smoke was caused by endless cranking while trying to detect the first problem ( HPFP ). My (ex) mechanic removed turbo for no reason, suspecting he caused white smoke. During testing they managed to do something with it. He confessed that turbo service didn't assembly turbo back as it should, they did the work again and now i suffer from black smoke when I floor it. Also she runs like 2.0 DTI, especially in mid range.
Scratches are 80% sorted with polishing but still visible. She is going back to painter anyway so that doesn't bother me that much.
I'll try to drive her some more to see is this black smoke maybe caused by sitting for 3 months, bit i doubt..
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« Reply #43 on: 08 October 2021, 14:16:33 »


Gremlin found. My (ex) mechanic forgot to reconect intercooler hose. Smoke is allmost gone and she goes almost normal. I guess I need to drive it around a bit after all that sitting. I will put some fuel additive so we'll see what happens.
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« Reply #44 on: 08 October 2021, 16:01:03 »

Whatta mistaka to maka...

Still, nice easy fix :y
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« Reply #45 on: 17 October 2021, 15:48:29 »

Couple of fresh pictures:





She runs and drives fine, I put new winter Hankook tyres, they are suprisingly quiet, but i noticed an oil leak somewhere between engine and gearbox. I suspect on turbo. Here in Serbia situation with qualified mechanics is terrible. Next on schedule is to return her to painter to fix some of he's messes, and than to find someone to deal with f**k ups of my ex mechanic...  :-\
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« Reply #46 on: 17 October 2021, 21:45:11 »

That's looking fantastic  8)
good luck sorting the mechanical niggles  :y
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« Reply #47 on: 10 February 2022, 07:30:00 »

Oil leak finally detected:

While changing the seal I'll also rebuild a clutch plate.
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« Reply #48 on: 19 March 2022, 21:26:09 »

We've been traveling...


All things considered, i'm very satisfied with fuel consumption..
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« Reply #49 on: 25 June 2022, 21:41:18 »


I'we done some work. Omega got new windscreen with rain sensor, I changed rear brake and handbrake pads with oil change and system flush.
She has been M.O.T.-ed for another year.
I still need to do regular oil and filter change, and she is ready for road trip to Adriatic coast..
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« Reply #50 on: 01 July 2022, 13:08:56 »


I changed oil and filter today. I changed AC filter as well, done some AC system cleaning and leather cleaning and conditioning.
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« Reply #51 on: 09 January 2023, 08:34:54 »


We cowered 800km for winter holidays. I had some cold start issues, it turned out that 4 of 6 glow plugs where dead.
Average trip consumption was around 7L/100km. 80% was motorway at 130kph and rest was on mountain roads with this extremely aerodynamic roof rack borrowed from my late grandfather's Yugo 45 and this 220cm long box..
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« Reply #52 on: 09 January 2023, 08:52:56 »

They are a cracking car for soaking up the miles.  I miss mine :(
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« Reply #53 on: 15 January 2023, 13:31:02 »

They are a cracking car for soaking up the miles.  I miss mine :(
Must admit despite all the playing about with MV6's, ExPlods and Specials over the years, I still miss my 2.5TD Manual Estate, it was a proper Work Horse, its a real shame we never got the Euro 24V version in the UK I would have definitely been up for that.
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« Reply #54 on: 15 January 2023, 15:06:41 »

How many Omegas (if any) do you have now Kris ? Istr it was 12 or 13 at one point.  ::)
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« Reply #55 on: 15 January 2023, 22:27:21 »

How many Omegas (if any) do you have now Kris ? Istr it was 12 or 13 at one point.  ::)
I'm down to 3 now,      ..... I think,  some of the ones where I don't remember where I parked them, have now ceased to exist, probably now belong to the DVLA, Local Council or Essex Police , I trust they would have put them to good use. :-X

The 3 I have will very soon become 1,  :( the last one I'm clinging onto for dear life is the 3.2 Manual Special ExPee Saloon with LPG (ex Thames Valley, the Silver Sisters Car to Josh's old Black one).

Edit, you've just nudged my memory now, Twiglett from here bought my 2.5TD Estate, for the Veggie Oil thing, then after running it around similar to a Fish and Chip Shop, scrapped it to, sorry, meant to say, Sold it as a Runner, to PaulK in Dartford.   ;D

It's all start to come back to me suddenly, think I might give the DVLA a ring in the morning, and ask, Where's my bloody ...........

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« Reply #56 on: 16 January 2023, 00:33:01 »

Your a star.  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #57 on: 16 January 2023, 07:38:32 »

This is my 12th Omega too (but I newer had more than two at the same time  ;D )
I had all the petrol ones ( except V8 unicorn ) This 2.5 common rail with manual gearbox is the best option all things considered (fuel consumption, performance, reliability...) My idea was to tune this M57 a little bitb closer to BMW e60 version, and maybe convert this 5 speed to 6 speed..
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« Reply #58 on: 30 May 2023, 09:49:25 »

Old lady passed MOT with no surprises.
I recently changed oil separator filter and cabin AC filter, oil and oil filter is next to come.
I gave her to my father, I'll keep maintaining her and probably use her for long distance travels
Funny moment was at the MOT center, two new Mercedeses, nice 530D and Korean electric SUV, and Omega got the most attention from MOT people. One of them said he didn't see one for years, especially in good condition  :)
Now I am considering rescuing this one

2.5 TDS (M51) auto. alledged 135 000km on the clock. I'm waiting for detailed rust pictures, owner claims there isn't any  :D
There are two faults, crank sensor and problem with gearbox, which sometimes don't start in D, just in 2, with no faults reported. I'm open to suggestions where to start, I'm not sure but it should be 4 speed AR25 unit..
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« Reply #59 on: 30 May 2023, 18:42:47 »

Isn't it a ZF box on the straight 6 diseasal :-\
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« Reply #60 on: 30 May 2023, 19:35:25 »

I came to a conclusion that ZF-s are 5 speed. Is there a 4 speed version cause this one has 4 speed auto box?
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« Reply #61 on: 30 May 2023, 22:22:58 »

It's possible  ;)
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« Reply #62 on: 04 June 2023, 09:29:08 »

Think its a gm 5 speed auto based on the AR35 which never came to the UK
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« Reply #63 on: 04 June 2023, 09:31:21 »

GM 5L40-E
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« Reply #64 on: 04 June 2023, 09:32:52 »

Didnt realise it was a manual.
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« Reply #65 on: 18 July 2023, 20:16:42 »

On it's way from Adriatic sea old ladies radiator decided to crack  >:(


Since I haven't manage to find new one, I decided to by used one, it just happens it came with the rest of the car attached at the back of it

2.5 DTI manuial, full leather, no faults, no smoke (surprisingly)  ac works, rust on usual places. I'm almost feeling sorry for turning her into organ donor..
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