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Driving without tax?
« on: 11 January 2007, 14:52:01 »
My understanding is, you cannot drive a car without tax?

However the problem:

Picking up a car on Saturday, it has a new MOT but no tax.

Its already Thursday, I won't be able to get a insurance certificate by Saturday.

I know you need a MOT + insurance to get tax, problem is i won't have any in time to drive the car. Even if i get one of those 1 day insurance things, cause they won't let you buy tax iic.

Any ideas?

Can i drive the car saying insurance is on the way so i can buy tax?  :-/

Has anyone has experiance with on-line tax?

Thanks in advance!  :y
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #1 on: 11 January 2007, 14:54:58 »
You would be able to tax online, which would help
but driving without displaying a valid tax disk is an offence,
At least the computers would know you were taxed so be ok.
Is the current owner insured?  if so why not ask them to buy the tax (with you paying)
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #2 on: 11 January 2007, 14:59:47 »
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You would be able to tax online, which would help
but driving without displaying a valid tax disk is an offence,
At least the computers would know you were taxed so be ok.
Is the current owner insured?  if so why not ask them to buy the tax (with you paying)


yep either get them to buy it at your cost or take the risk..........driving without tax, however good your intentions, is an offence  :(
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #3 on: 11 January 2007, 15:04:13 »
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Tis annoying, especially as once you can legally buy the tax, you will be buying it from the start of Jan anyway,

If it was me, and left with no option, I would tax online, therefore settling for the lower problem of not displaying a disc,  I would also carry the receipt proving you have just bought it, would make the argument a lot easier in the event of being stopped, presuming the mot is a computerised one, if not you cant tax online anyway (not sure if old style still even exist thinking about it)
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #4 on: 11 January 2007, 15:04:54 »
Tunnie, I would ask them to purchase the tax on your behalf. This is the best solution and would ensure you were driving legally.

As it is, the car would need to be taxed or declared SORN by the 14th or there will be an automatic £80 fine sent to the registered keeper as of that date.

Buying the tax online is much more awkward if you have just purchased the car as all the information on the system is in the previous keepers name, so a new disc would automatically be sent to them.


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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #5 on: 11 January 2007, 15:11:20 »
Yes, ask current owner to tax.  Only time you can drive it without tax is with trade plates (or possibly to/from prearranged MOT).

Cannot do online, as not in your name yet.

If owner has already surrended insurance, you may have a problem...
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #6 on: 11 January 2007, 15:16:23 »
Good point guys.. didn't think about that one!  :y

I'll ring the seller...
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #7 on: 11 January 2007, 15:17:40 »
Tunnie, if you phone your insurance company and explain the situation they should be able to send out an emergency cover note by first class post which you should receive the next day. I did this recently myself although for a slightly different reason.
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #8 on: 11 January 2007, 16:05:18 »
Cheers for the replys guys  :y

Just rang the seller, and asked him to put 12 months tax on. No problem he said, i got a motor trade certificate to use so no problem.

Result!  :)
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #9 on: 11 January 2007, 16:07:52 »
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Cheers for the replys guys  :y

Just rang the seller, and asked him to put 12 months tax on. No problem he said, i got a motor trade certificate to use so no problem.

Result!  :)
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #10 on: 11 January 2007, 16:34:19 »
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Cheers for the replys guys  :y

Just rang the seller, and asked him to put 12 months tax on. No problem he said, i got a motor trade certificate to use so no problem.

Result!  :)

12 months tax?? You're a student Tunnie. You should not be that flush!  ;)
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« Reply #11 on: 11 January 2007, 16:38:26 »
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Cheers for the replys guys  :y

Just rang the seller, and asked him to put 12 months tax on. No problem he said, i got a motor trade certificate to use so no problem.

Result!  :)

12 months tax?? You're a student Tunnie. You should not be that flush!  ;)

Thats nearly doubled the value of it  ;D
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #12 on: 11 January 2007, 16:38:27 »
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Cheers for the replys guys  :y

Just rang the seller, and asked him to put 12 months tax on. No problem he said, i got a motor trade certificate to use so no problem.

Result!  :)

12 months tax?? You're a student Tunnie. You should not be that flush!  ;)

I reckon he moonlights as an Omega mechanic!! ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #13 on: 11 January 2007, 16:39:30 »
Maybe a TAX IN POST stuck to the windscreen ::)
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #14 on: 11 January 2007, 16:54:27 »
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Cheers for the replys guys  :y

Just rang the seller, and asked him to put 12 months tax on. No problem he said, i got a motor trade certificate to use so no problem.

Result!  :)

12 months tax?? You're a student Tunnie. You should not be that flush!  ;)

Noooo ! Tunnies a student Dave, he should be that flush  ;) ;D
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #15 on: 11 January 2007, 17:03:38 »
What you need Tunnie is a beer mat stuck in the window ::)
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« Reply #16 on: 11 January 2007, 17:14:00 »
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What you need Tunnie is a beer mat stuck in the window ::)

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« Reply #17 on: 11 January 2007, 17:19:44 »
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Maybe a TAX IN POST stuck to the windscreen ::)

Your still illegal.
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« Reply #18 on: 11 January 2007, 17:25:47 »
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Maybe a TAX IN POST stuck to the windscreen ::)

Your still illegal.

Carnt be....Del Boy's 3 wheeler always had that in the window and never got done  ::)
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Maybe a TAX IN POST stuck to the windscreen ::)

Your still illegal.

Carnt be....Del Boy's 3 wheeler always had that in the window and never got done  ::)

Exactly what the meaning was  ;D
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Maybe a TAX IN POST stuck to the windscreen ::)

Your still illegal.

Carnt be....Del Boy's 3 wheeler always had that in the window and never got done  ::)
That was before number plate recognition systems :D
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Maybe a TAX IN POST stuck to the windscreen ::)

Your still illegal.

Carnt be....Del Boy's 3 wheeler always had that in the window and never got done  ::)
That was before number plate recognition systems :D

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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #22 on: 11 January 2007, 18:41:38 »
What if the car is being towed? Is it still a motor vehicle and thus needs a tax disc, or is it a trailer and covered by the disc on the towing vehicle?
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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #23 on: 11 January 2007, 18:43:34 »
I saw the thread.. driving without tax on the homepage.. and I thought to myself... I bet tunnie started that! I was right!!

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Re: Driving without tax?
« Reply #24 on: 11 January 2007, 19:28:18 »
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My understanding is, you cannot drive a car without tax?

However the problem:

Picking up a car on Saturday, it has a new MOT but no tax.

Its already Thursday, I won't be able to get a insurance certificate by Saturday.

I know you need a MOT + insurance to get tax, problem is i won't have any in time to drive the car. Even if i get one of those 1 day insurance things, cause they won't let you buy tax iic.

Any ideas?

Can i drive the car saying insurance is on the way so i can buy tax?  :-/

Has anyone has experiance with on-line tax?

Thanks in advance!  :y

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« Reply #25 on: 11 January 2007, 19:36:46 »
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My understanding is, you cannot drive a car without tax?

However the problem:

Picking up a car on Saturday, it has a new MOT but no tax.

Its already Thursday, I won't be able to get a insurance certificate by Saturday.

I know you need a MOT + insurance to get tax, problem is i won't have any in time to drive the car. Even if i get one of those 1 day insurance things, cause they won't let you buy tax iic.

Any ideas?

Can i drive the car saying insurance is on the way so i can buy tax?  :-/

Has anyone has experiance with on-line tax?

Thanks in advance!  :y

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What if the car is being towed? Is it still a motor vehicle and thus needs a tax disc, or is it a trailer and covered by the disc on the towing vehicle?

A car towed on either a rope or a bar is still a car and subject to all the insurance, driving licence etc etc as if it wasn't.  Only way out is if its on an A frame or towing dolly with front (rear) wheels off the floor and therefore does not require a driver in it.  Then its a trailer, but watch the towing weights etc for the towed and towing vehicle combination...

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My understanding is, you cannot drive a car without tax?

However the problem:

Picking up a car on Saturday, it has a new MOT but no tax.

Its already Thursday, I won't be able to get a insurance certificate by Saturday.

I know you need a MOT + insurance to get tax, problem is i won't have any in time to drive the car. Even if i get one of those 1 day insurance things, cause they won't let you buy tax iic.

Any ideas?

Can i drive the car saying insurance is on the way so i can buy tax?  :-/

Has anyone has experiance with on-line tax?

Thanks in advance!  :y

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« Reply #28 on: 11 January 2007, 22:47:00 »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Well its quite obvious really, but here is a clue. Its NOT an Omega  ;) :y

Oh LB & TD, got another student loan payment last week, nice fat 4 figure sum  :D
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;D ;D ;D ;D

Well its quite obvious really, but here is a clue. Its NOT an Omega  ;) :y

Oh LB & TD, got another student loan payment last week, nice fat 4 figure sum  :D
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« Reply #30 on: 12 January 2007, 05:29:52 »
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What if the car is being towed? Is it still a motor vehicle and thus needs a tax disc, or is it a trailer and covered by the disc on the towing vehicle?

A car towed on either a rope or a bar is still a car and subject to all the insurance, driving licence etc etc as if it wasn't.  Only way out is if its on an A frame or towing dolly with front (rear) wheels off the floor and therefore does not require a driver in it.  Then its a trailer, but watch the towing weights etc for the towed and towing vehicle combination...

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« Reply #31 on: 12 January 2007, 07:53:30 »
I had no idea what a Trabant was until i went on WikiPedia!!  :D

One question, does anyone have the part number for the crank sensor on a Trabant?  ;D
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« Reply #32 on: 12 January 2007, 09:31:16 »
Damn! I should read through the thread properly before voting.........YES, it was me that voted Omega and now I know it isn't.  :-[ ;D
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« Reply #33 on: 12 January 2007, 09:42:17 »
its gotta be...it should be...it MUST be a Senny  :y
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« Reply #34 on: 12 January 2007, 18:17:47 »
I know what it is.......so im not going to vote.....but always open to bribery  :D
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« Reply #35 on: 12 January 2007, 18:35:10 »
think its a no brainier really  ::)
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« Reply #36 on: 12 January 2007, 18:48:06 »
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« Reply #37 on: 12 January 2007, 19:09:59 »
I know what it is...

TD, you missed off 2CV  :-X
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« Reply #38 on: 12 January 2007, 20:01:22 »
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TD, you missed off 2CV  :-X

I didnt start the poll...confused me now  ;D
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« Reply #39 on: 12 January 2007, 22:11:50 »
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TD, you missed off 2CV  :-X

I didnt start the poll...confused me now  ;D

I wonder who added the Trabant?  ::)
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