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Title: Information
Post by: Auto Addict on 02 March 2012, 18:33:29
As many of you are aware, a number of challenges have been encountered in the last 72 hours with respect to three of our members.

As an interim measure, these three are currently excluded from partaking in the forum whilst private discussions with all involved and the admins take place.

Once these discussions have concluded, an agreed plan of action will be implemented which will look to resolve the existing challenge and minimise the probability of its occurance in the future.

Yours

The OOF Admin and Moderation team

Title: Re: Information
Post by: tigers_gonads on 02 March 2012, 18:48:04
Fair enough  :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Tony H on 02 March 2012, 19:06:57
Lets all bare in mind that the people that run, maintain and oversee this forum do so for no financial reward, In fact I'll wager they have to dip into there own pockets to keep things going, not to mention they also must dedicate an awful lot of there free time.
So as has been said in numerous posts lets all back off and let them sort the the issues that has caused this conflict. Nuff said.


Tony
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Terbs on 02 March 2012, 19:30:13
Now that a statement has been issued from admin, would it not be the thing to lock this thread now, so it does not go veering off into pages of opinions :y
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Post by: hotel21 on 02 March 2012, 19:30:53
Now that a statement has been issued from admin, would it not be the thing to lock this thread now, so it does not go veering off into pages of opinions :y
Might be best to leave that descision to the admins.   :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: skyblue on 02 March 2012, 19:42:02
Lets all bare in mind that the people that run, maintain and oversee this forum do so for no financial reward, In fact I'll wager they have to dip into there own pockets to keep things going, not to mention they also must dedicate an awful lot of there free time.
So as has been said in numerous posts lets all back off and let them sort the the issues that has caused this conflict. Nuff said.


Tony
Spot on, couldnt have said it better myself  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 02 March 2012, 21:15:20
Thanks for keeping members informed of developments,or as informed as is reasonaly possible. :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 02 March 2012, 21:17:34
Thanks for keeping members informed of developments,or as informed as is reasonaly possible. :y

Arse licker.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Vamps on 02 March 2012, 22:09:19
Thanks for keeping members informed of developments,or as informed as is reasonaly possible. :y

Arse licker.

You have such a delightful understanding of the use of the English Language Steve..... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 02 March 2012, 22:25:42
Thanks for keeping members informed of developments,or as informed as is reasonaly possible. :y

Arse licker.

Your just jealous cause I aint lickin yours. :P ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 02 March 2012, 22:27:39
Thanks for keeping members informed of developments,or as informed as is reasonaly possible. :y

Arse licker.

You have such a typically pig ignorant scousers grasp of the English Language Steve..... :D :D :D

Now thats a bit strong Vamps. :o
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Vamps on 02 March 2012, 23:14:08
Thanks for keeping members informed of developments,or as informed as is reasonaly possible. :y

Arse licker.

You have such a typically pig ignorant scousers grasp of the English Language Steve..... :D :D :D

Now thats a bit strong Vamps. :o

You been fiddlin with me again..... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 02 March 2012, 23:17:07
You wish. :P ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 02 March 2012, 23:23:36
thank you admin appreciated :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: RobG on 05 March 2012, 14:22:09
As many of you are aware, a number of challenges have been encountered in the last 72 hours with respect to three of our members.

As an interim measure, these three are currently excluded from partaking in the forum whilst private discussions with all involved and the admins take place.

Once these discussions have concluded, an agreed plan of action will be implemented which will look to resolve the existing challenge and minimise the probability of its occurance in the future.

Yours

The OOF Admin and Moderation team
Has this come to a satisfactory conclusion for all concerned :-\
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 March 2012, 16:08:24
Currently being voted on in the moderation area with a dead line of this evening for the result.

The parties invovled will then be consulted as a first step before the forum populus
Title: Re: Information
Post by: RobG on 05 March 2012, 16:43:35
Cheers Mark :)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 March 2012, 21:42:24
Voting has been completed and communication is now underway.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: tunnie on 05 March 2012, 21:45:50
Shall I try and get Davina McCall to annonce the results?
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Post by: Del Boy on 05 March 2012, 21:49:25
Shall I try and get Davina McCall to annonce the results?

If she wears those tight trousers as she does in her DVD's then yes, yes please do  :).
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Post by: JamesV6CDX on 05 March 2012, 21:50:20
Shall I try and get Davina McCall to annonce the results?

Mmmm Davina!!  :y
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Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 March 2012, 21:52:11
Shall I try and get Davina McCall to annonce the results?

Mmmm Davina!!  :y

Really everyone????  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Information
Post by: tunnie on 05 March 2012, 21:53:04
I've heard she is a bit shattered from Got to Dance Live Final, but sure she can make time for OOF  ::)

Just checked, she's not in the company phone book. Darn!
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Post by: tidla on 05 March 2012, 21:57:13
you know , shes worth it!  ::)
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Post by: paul.lovejoy on 05 March 2012, 22:05:22
the words camel and toe come to mind ::)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Bionic on 05 March 2012, 22:17:58
 :o Cameltoe? oooooh! :D

Back to the main subject.....
Hope a line can now finally be drawn under this unhappy and unnecessary affair.
Will lessons be learned.....let's all hope so so there is no recurrance of it.
Nuff said..... ;)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 06 March 2012, 17:18:55
What time is Davina booked for then ?  ::)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: RobG on 06 March 2012, 17:20:15
:o Cameltoe? oooooh! :D

Back to the main subject.....
Hope a line can now finally be drawn under this unhappy and unnecessary affair.Will lessons be learned.....let's all hope so so there is no recurrance of it.
Nuff said..... ;)
Assuming the "line" is seen to be just :)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: tunnie on 06 March 2012, 17:20:52
Although no communication has been made (that I can see) It looks like steps have been taken!
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 06 March 2012, 17:25:02
It does look like it.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Olympia5776 on 06 March 2012, 17:49:29

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/olympia5776/Odds%20and%20Ends/judge.jpg)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2012, 18:57:17
Jimbob has done a great job on the Admin Team over the past 2 or 3 years, with this being the only time we think he made an error of judgement.

Based on that, the plan is to reinstate him as a Moderator, as before.  We all make mistakes sometimes.


Its apparent that Moderators cannot be allowed to moderate when it involves somebody very close to them, as it can lead to, perceived or otherwise, inappropriate moderation. Currently, the view is that if you are a member of the Admin Team, you cannot have close family as members. This may change.


As to Darth Loo-Knee, he, sadly decided to leave.  I hope he chooses to rejoin.  If he does, I personally would be happy to have him back on the Admin Team, but that is my own personal view - we have not fully discussed the scenario, as he is currently not a member.


I apologise for the seemingly slow response.  As the Admin Team are all on at different times, in depth discussions do take several days.

TheBoy
Title: Re: Information
Post by: tunnie on 06 March 2012, 19:05:05
As to Darth Loo-Knee, he, sadly decided to leave.  I hope he chooses to rejoin. 

Its a real shame, he has given a lot to this forum over the past 5 years since its very early days. He brought real character to this place and made it real fun place to be, his departure its a great loss to the forum. From that bright pink t-shirt on the first lakes meet which still gets mentioned today! Not going to be same without him  :'(

His post was clearly a well timed digg, at someone who has previously dished out the same one word posts. It just proves that member cannot take what they put out and had to go running to someone with powers.

Having read the offending thread & spoken with Loo-Knee, the action taken against him was completely unjust. I understand why he left, I really hope he changes his mind & returns.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: waspy on 06 March 2012, 19:06:12
I'd like to have Daz back too. Simple as that.
I tend to keep out of tiffs amongst members, because it's not my business.
Though certain members do need to grow up by quite a few years.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Olympia5776 on 06 March 2012, 19:10:56
As to Darth Loo-Knee, he, sadly decided to leave.  I hope he chooses to rejoin. 

Its a real shame, he has given a lot to this forum over the past 5 years since its very early days. He brought real character to this place and made it real fun place to be, his departure its a great loss to the forum. From that bright pink t-shirt on the first lakes meet which still gets mentioned today! Not going to be same without him  :'(

His post was clearly a well timed digg, at someone who has previously dished out the same one word posts. It just proves that member cannot take what they put out and had to go running to someone with powers.

Having read the offending thread & spoken with Loo-Knee, the action taken against him was completely unjust. I understand why he left, I really hope he changes his mind & returns.

I wholeheartedly concur      :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: The Red Baron on 06 March 2012, 19:11:21
I'd like to have Daz back too. Simple as that.
I tend to keep out of tiffs amongst members, because it's not my business.
Though certain members do need to grow up by quite a few years.
totally agree with you Pete.
seconded. come on daz. :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: RobG on 06 March 2012, 19:18:43
As to Darth Loo-Knee, he, sadly decided to leave.  I hope he chooses to rejoin. 

Its a real shame, he has given a lot to this forum over the past 5 years since its very early days. He brought real character to this place and made it real fun place to be, his departure its a great loss to the forum. From that bright pink t-shirt on the first lakes meet which still gets mentioned today! Not going to be same without him  :'(

His post was clearly a well timed digg, at someone who has previously dished out the same one word posts. It just proves that member cannot take what they put out and had to go running to someone with powers.

Having read the offending thread & spoken with Loo-Knee, the action taken against him was completely unjust. I understand why he left, I really hope he changes his mind & returns.
Have to agree with you Mark. It begs the question, "was Daz pushed or did he jump" and it also begs the question "would a temp. ban have been put in place if the "aggrieved" member was not a moderator`s partner" ???.
It`s only my opinion but I fail to see where any "justice" has been done or seen to be done :-\
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Nickbat on 06 March 2012, 19:21:01
As to Darth Loo-Knee, he, sadly decided to leave.  I hope he chooses to rejoin. 

Its a real shame, he has given a lot to this forum over the past 5 years since its very early days. He brought real character to this place and made it real fun place to be, his departure its a great loss to the forum. From that bright pink t-shirt on the first lakes meet which still gets mentioned today! Not going to be same without him  :'(

His post was clearly a well timed digg, at someone who has previously dished out the same one word posts. It just proves that member cannot take what they put out and had to go running to someone with powers.

Having read the offending thread & spoken with Loo-Knee, the action taken against him was completely unjust. I understand why he left, I really hope he changes his mind & returns.

I agree, Tunnie. Funnily enough, you posted exactly the same text response to one of my posts a year or so back. Although I remember it, it is not because it upset me in the slightest, but I merely made a mental note that Tunnie and political threads don't mix!  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D

I, too, am sad that Darth has left. He did a cracking job on my car last year and he will be missed.  :(
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 06 March 2012, 19:26:48
I am very sure that the overwhelming majority of members want to see Daz return and soon.Unfortunately I think that might just require the admin team to grow a backbone,as unfortunately it appears that they dont have one between them.
Sad to say that a lot of the respect many members had for the admins has been severely dented this last week,and tonights statement has not helped things in the slightest.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2012, 19:29:58
"was Daz pushed or did he jump"
He jumped  :'(. I can understand why though.

It`s only my opinion but I fail to see where any "justice" has been done or seen to be done :-\
Does 'justice' really need to be done in this case? I believe there was an error in judgement in this case. I hope Jimbob can see where/why, to reduce the chances of it happening again in the future.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 06 March 2012, 19:34:48
"was Daz pushed or did he jump"
He jumped  :'(. I can understand why though.

It`s only my opinion but I fail to see where any "justice" has been done or seen to be done :-\
Does 'justice' really need to be done in this case? I believe there was an error in judgement in this case. I hope Jimbob can see where/why, to reduce the chances of it happening again in the future.

I cant believe I just read that,nor how out of touch you  clearly are with how so many people feel about this whole sorry saga. :o
Title: Re: Information
Post by: RobG on 06 March 2012, 19:37:04
"was Daz pushed or did he jump"
He jumped  :'(. I can understand why though.

It`s only my opinion but I fail to see where any "justice" has been done or seen to be done :-\
Does 'justice' really need to be done in this case? I believe there was an error in judgement in this case. I hope Jimbob can see where/why, to reduce the chances of it happening again in the future.
Only my take on it TB and I may be wrong, but was it the "error" that prompted Daz to "hit the button".
If (and only if) that was the reason for Daz`s self-deletion the only way for a totally unbiased conclusion to this sad state of affairs is surely to offer Daz his position & postcount back. If he chooses to decline, so be it
Title: Re: Information
Post by: cleggy on 06 March 2012, 19:38:19
As to Darth Loo-Knee, he, sadly decided to leave.  I hope he chooses to rejoin. 

Its a real shame, he has given a lot to this forum over the past 5 years since its very early days. He brought real character to this place and made it real fun place to be, his departure its a great loss to the forum. From that bright pink t-shirt on the first lakes meet which still gets mentioned today! Not going to be same without him  :'(

His post was clearly a well timed digg, at someone who has previously dished out the same one word posts. It just proves that member cannot take what they put out and had to go running to someone with powers.

Having read the offending thread & spoken with Loo-Knee, the action taken against him was completely unjust. I understand why he left, I really hope he changes his mind & returns.
Have to agree with you Mark. It begs the question, "was Daz pushed or did he jump" and it also begs the question "would a temp. ban have been put in place if the "aggrieved" member was not a moderator`s partner" ???.
It`s only my opinion but I fail to see where any "justice" has been done or seen to be done :-\

I concur, I also read the oofending posts, and do not  see any justice in this at all.. In fact Jimbob went completely over the top comparing this to rape.. >:( >:( >:(


APOLOGY TO THE PINK ONE :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2012, 19:39:57
I am very sure that the overwhelming majority of members want to see Daz return and soon.
I am one of them

Unfortunately I think that might just require the admin team to grow a backbone,as unfortunately it appears that they dont have one between them.
No need to be personal Albs.  There were a few options on the table, and that was the majority vote.

Sad to say that a lot of the respect many members had for the admins has been severely dented this last week,and tonights statement has not helped things in the slightest.
I am slightly concerned that some members seemed to have wanted to turn this into a witch hunt.  I can't speak for others, but I voted this outcome because since Jimbob joined the team, he has always made good decisions, and always been an asset. In my personal opinion, this had to be taken into account when discussing this recent bad (IMHO) decision to overreact to DLK's post.

DLK isn't entirely innocent, he knew his post would probably cause a reaction. But, again IMHO, the punishment did not fit the crime. I would happily vote him back on the Admin Team. Cannot speak for my colleagues though.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 March 2012, 19:42:28
I would like to remind all that we have taken what we feel is appropriate action to:

1) Address the original issue

2) Prevent a conflict of interest occuring in the future

This process has clearly taken a lot of admin and moderator time whilst past posts were reviewed and discussed in great depth and a number of next step options were considered and voted on.

I for one would like to welcome Jimbob back and look forward to his continued excellent support of our community.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2012, 19:42:53
If (and only if) that was the reason for Daz`s self-deletion the only way for a totally unbiased conclusion to this sad state of affairs is surely to offer Daz his position & postcount back. If he chooses to decline, so be it
I have preempted that question a few days ago, and it looks a messy task to reassign he to his posts.  Manual postcount modifications will likely result in that getting fixed back to an accurate one when we run certain scripts...
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Bionic on 06 March 2012, 19:46:13
3 members were affected so am I missing somthing because after reading right through the posts I can only see the decisions that have affected two members, JimBob and Daz.  What happened to the third? I am sure I am not alone in wondering about it and do not wish to draw an incorrect conclusion about it. I still do not know how or why it had to happen  :-\
I am well pleased now that is over with and hopefully lessons have been learned about what can happen if care is not taken when posting. Forum back to normal now is it?
I do agree that the circumstances were difficult for JimBob and perhaps had he recognised that he should have stepped aside in this one the results may well have been far nicer for everyone concerned.
I will be seeing the big pink (daft b*gger) this weekend and take him some tinnies to see if i can reel him back in even if only as an ordinary member. As for the meet, his decision on that one will have to be respected.
Next time, if there is one, everyone count to a hundred before you post!  ;)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 March 2012, 19:47:55
The effective outcome was that Ljay has been excluded from the forum and Jimbob returns.

LooKnee has decided at this time to withdraw from the forum.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 19:49:15
The effective outcome was that Ljay has been excluded from the forum and Jimbob returns.

LooKnee has decided at this time to withdraw from the forum.

That wasn't very clear (to me, anyway) in the previous posts.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 March 2012, 19:51:43
The effective outcome was that Ljay has been excluded from the forum and Jimbob returns.

LooKnee has decided at this time to withdraw from the forum.

That wasn't very clear (to me, anyway) in the previous posts.

You surprise me Steve  ;D :P :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: The Red Baron on 06 March 2012, 19:52:55
The effective outcome was that Ljay has been excluded from the forum and Jimbob returns.

LooKnee has decided at this time to withdraw from the forum.

That wasn't very clear (to me, anyway) in the previous posts.

Result then.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Bionic on 06 March 2012, 19:53:24
Ok Mark,
Thanx for that info but I will be bending his ear at the weekend, after the tinnies probably, by which time he might be in a better frame of mind. I am hoping like hell that he will come back cos I miss the 'pink' banter. Sadly I had a temper just like his in my younger days so I can understand the how of his reaction, now mature (sic) I am as about as fast as a snail with a limp  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Too old to suffer and too young to die............
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 19:54:25
The effective outcome was that Ljay has been excluded from the forum and Jimbob returns.

LooKnee has decided at this time to withdraw from the forum.

That wasn't very clear (to me, anyway) in the previous posts.

You surprise me Steve  ;D :P :y

terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired..... ;D
 
Oh, sorry....I mean....very interesting Mark.
 
 
Phew! ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: PhilRich on 06 March 2012, 19:56:08
This is bloody awful news, it feels like a bereavement! :(
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 06 March 2012, 19:56:34
The effective outcome was that Ljay has been excluded from the forum and Jimbob returns.

LooKnee has decided at this time to withdraw from the forum.

Since when ?
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Martian on 06 March 2012, 19:57:52
Next time, if there is one, everyone count to a hundred before you post!  ;)
Since being correctly diagnosed, I find the Ritalin works every time  ;)

terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired..... ;D
I knew that was coming  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Elite_L0ver on 06 March 2012, 19:58:28
As many of you are aware, a number of challenges have been encountered in the last 72 hours with respect to three of our members.

As an interim measure, these three are currently excluded from partaking in the forum whilst private discussions with all involved and the admins take place.

Once these discussions have concluded, an agreed plan of action will be implemented which will look to resolve the existing challenge and minimise the probability of its occurance in the future.

Yours

The OOF Admin and Moderation team
Has this come to a satisfactory conclusion for all concerned :-\

I am unaware until now of this problem I hope it gets resolved and admin do a great job of keeping this site going for all
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 March 2012, 20:00:14
The effective outcome was that Ljay has been excluded from the forum and Jimbob returns.

LooKnee has decided at this time to withdraw from the forum.

Since when ?

As per the first post in this thread, the evening of the 2nd of March  ;D ;D ;D :P :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Bionic on 06 March 2012, 20:02:04
 ::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:02:13
The effective outcome was that Ljay has been excluded from the forum and Jimbob returns.

LooKnee has decided at this time to withdraw from the forum.

Since when ?

As per the first post in this thread, the evening of the 2nd of March  ;D ;D ;D :P :y

2nd of effing March? ??? ? I can't even remember what I had for me tea. ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 06 March 2012, 20:03:25
The effective outcome was that Ljay has been excluded from the forum and Jimbob returns.

LooKnee has decided at this time to withdraw from the forum.

Since when ?

As per the first post in this thread, the evening of the 2nd of March  ;D ;D ;D :P :y

Funny, it seems she was online last night. :-\ ::) ???
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3189
 ;D ;D ;D ;D :P :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 March 2012, 20:03:33
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Bionic on 06 March 2012, 20:04:37
 :D
Looking at the hair of the pic I reckon philrich must be after pinks job..............
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:06:09
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You're too late. I already altered my post to make it look as if I didn't mean it. So you would just become (more) unpopular. ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Bionic on 06 March 2012, 20:08:01
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sod this.....I must be crackin up....I reckon I will have an early night now the lighthearted banter is back........ :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: twiglet on 06 March 2012, 20:10:14
Where did that post from MDTM go saying being banned doesn't stop you from viewing?  ???
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2012, 20:11:07
The effective outcome was that Ljay has been excluded from the forum and Jimbob returns.

LooKnee has decided at this time to withdraw from the forum.

Since when ?

As per the first post in this thread, the evening of the 2nd of March  ;D ;D ;D :P :y

Funny, it seems she was online last night. :-\ ::) ???
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3189
 ;D ;D ;D ;D :P :y
A ban does not stop people reading threads - same as a guest really - but does prevent participation. Or should do.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: twiglet on 06 March 2012, 20:12:34
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 06 March 2012, 20:12:38
So,still a member then.Just not allowed to participate fully at the moment ?
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 06 March 2012, 20:13:12
The effective outcome was that Ljay has been excluded from the forum and Jimbob returns.

LooKnee has decided at this time to withdraw from the forum.

Since when ?

As per the first post in this thread, the evening of the 2nd of March  ;D ;D ;D :P :y

2nd of effing March? ??? ? I can't even remember what I had for me tea. ;D

Guess you havent found the 'search for members' button then  ;D ..... Ljay, Jimbob and the pinkone havent been showing up since this started.....try it tonight and Jimbob has reappeared  :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 06 March 2012, 20:14:32
Read the posts since the ones quoted,it will become clearer. ;)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 March 2012, 20:16:16
I would like to remind all that we have taken what we feel is appropriate action to:

1) Address the original issue

2) Prevent a conflict of interest occuring in the future

This process has clearly taken a lot of admin and moderator time whilst past posts were reviewed and discussed in great depth and a number of next step options were considered and voted on.

I for one would like to welcome Jimbob back and look forward to his continued excellent support of our community.

 
as a foreign member I'm not sure I have the right to talk in that subject..  :-\
 
however, I think I have the excuse to be a relatively old member.. :)
 
from that long distance I see the problem very different than you including the admins..
 
first of all, we all make mistakes from time to time.. thats inevitable as we are not robots..
 
first and most important , we are not  in the condition of judging anyone with their behaviours and this is not a court..
 
a debate/argument/dispute or shooting match occured between members/mods/admins.. so what ?
 
this happens in every forum nearly everyday on earth..  we dont have to love each other  ;D
 
 
if we start to ban sides of disputes I'm afraid we will loose many members within short time..
 
as I said before it could be solved with apologies from both sides in a civil way.. and in case necessary, a face to face talk could solve many things simply.. (but obviously needs some time for the sides to cool down)
 
so to cut the story short, I wish to see all members back again .. even if the same problem occurs.. :y

 
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:16:20
So,still a member then.Just not allowed to participate at the moment ?

I think it would be preferrable if LJay had BANNED!!! In big break off writing next to her name and Jimbob's sig had 'Sorry...sorry..sorry' moving along the bottom of every post.
 
Just a suggestion. :-\
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2012, 20:16:23
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:17:57
The effective outcome was that Ljay has been excluded from the forum and Jimbob returns.

LooKnee has decided at this time to withdraw from the forum.

Since when ?

As per the first post in this thread, the evening of the 2nd of March  ;D ;D ;D :P :y

2nd of effing March? ??? ? I can't even remember what I had for me tea. ;D

Guess you havent found the 'search for members' button then  ;D ..... Ljay, Jimbob and the pinkone havent been showing up since this started.....try it tonight and Jimbob has reappeared  :y

I have no time to search for members, Dave. I have trouble keeping track of where I am. :(
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2012, 20:18:51
So,still a member then.Just not allowed to participate fully at the moment ?
Exactly like the thousands of banned members ;)

The software has to maintain the user account in order to service the ban.  You are looking for an argument that isn't there ;)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:19:03
I would like to remind all that we have taken what we feel is appropriate action to:

1) Address the original issue

2) Prevent a conflict of interest occuring in the future

This process has clearly taken a lot of admin and moderator time whilst past posts were reviewed and discussed in great depth and a number of next step options were considered and voted on.

I for one would like to welcome Jimbob back and look forward to his continued excellent support of our community.

 
as a foreign member I'm not sure I have the right to talk in that subject..  :-\
 
however, I think I have the excuse to be an relatively old member.. :)
 
from that long distance I see the problem very different than you including the admins..
 
first of all, we all make mistakes from time to time.. thats inevitable as we are not robots..
 
first and most important , we are not  in the condition of judging anyone with their behaviours and this is not a court..
 
a debate/argument/dispute or shooting match occured between members/mods/admins.. so what ?
 
this happens in every forum nearly everyday on earth..  we dont have to love each other  ;D
 
 
if we start to ban sides of disputes I'm afraid we will loose many members within short time..
 
as I said before it could be solved with apologies from both sides in a civil way.. and in case necessary, a face to face talk could solve many things simply.. (but obviously needs some time for the sides to cool down)
 
so to cut the story short, I wish to see all members back again .. even if the same problem occurs.. :y

Nothing to do with you. Bloody foreigner. :P
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Gaffers on 06 March 2012, 20:19:08
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 06 March 2012, 20:20:20
I would like to remind all that we have taken what we feel is appropriate action to:

1) Address the original issue

2) Prevent a conflict of interest occuring in the future

This process has clearly taken a lot of admin and moderator time whilst past posts were reviewed and discussed in great depth and a number of next step options were considered and voted on.

I for one would like to welcome Jimbob back and look forward to his continued excellent support of our community.

 
as a foreign member I'm not sure I have the right to talk in that subject..  :-\
 
however, I think I have the excuse to be an relatively old member.. :)
 
from that long distance I see the problem very different than you including the admins..
 
first of all, we all make mistakes from time to time.. thats inevitable as we are not robots..
 
first and most important , we are not  in the condition of judging anyone with their behaviours and this is not a court..
 
a debate/argument/dispute or shooting match occured between members/mods/admins.. so what ?
 
this happens in every forum nearly everyday on earth..  we dont have to love each other  ;D
 
 
if we start to ban sides of disputes I'm afraid we will loose many members within short time..
 
as I said before it could be solved with apologies from both sides in a civil way.. and in case necessary, a face to face talk could solve many things simply.. (but obviously needs some time for the sides to cool down)
 
so to cut the story short, I wish to see all members back again .. even if the same problem occurs.. :y

+1  :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:20:32
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D

Yeah :y  So it says 'Very interesting' instead. ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Gaffers on 06 March 2012, 20:21:43
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D

Yeah :y  So it says 'Very interesting' instead. ;D

If it stands any chance of making you appear like a nice chap then scrub that idea then  ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 March 2012, 20:22:39
I would like to remind all that we have taken what we feel is appropriate action to:

1) Address the original issue

2) Prevent a conflict of interest occuring in the future

This process has clearly taken a lot of admin and moderator time whilst past posts were reviewed and discussed in great depth and a number of next step options were considered and voted on.

I for one would like to welcome Jimbob back and look forward to his continued excellent support of our community.

 
as a foreign member I'm not sure I have the right to talk in that subject..  :-\
 
however, I think I have the excuse to be an relatively old member.. :)
 
from that long distance I see the problem very different than you including the admins..
 
first of all, we all make mistakes from time to time.. thats inevitable as we are not robots..
 
first and most important , we are not  in the condition of judging anyone with their behaviours and this is not a court..
 
a debate/argument/dispute or shooting match occured between members/mods/admins.. so what ?
 
this happens in every forum nearly everyday on earth..  we dont have to love each other  ;D
 
 
if we start to ban sides of disputes I'm afraid we will loose many members within short time..
 
as I said before it could be solved with apologies from both sides in a civil way.. and in case necessary, a face to face talk could solve many things simply.. (but obviously needs some time for the sides to cool down)
 
so to cut the story short, I wish to see all members back again .. even if the same problem occurs.. :y

Nothing to do with you. Bloody foreigner. :P

I know the correct words order and you know too ;D :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: twiglet on 06 March 2012, 20:23:46
My only concern going forward is that Jimbob must keep his access to OOF admin very secure.  If Ljay has been banned and feels aggrieved by it, then can you imagine the damage she could cause if she got into the admin area!!  :o

'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned' and all that...  ::)

I certainly wouldn't want to be in his shoes tonight...  :-\
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:24:04
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D

Yeah :y  So it says 'Very interesting' instead. ;D

If it stands any chance of making you appear like a nice chap then scrub that idea then  ;D

I like a nice chap as much as the next man ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 March 2012, 20:24:39
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y, you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 March 2012, 20:25:31
My only concern going forward is that Jimbob must keep his access to OOF admin very secure.  If Ljay has been banned and feels aggrieved by it, then can you imagine the damage she could cause if she got into the admin area!!  :o

'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned' and all that...  ::)

I certainly wouldn't want to be in his shoes tonight...  :-\

Worry not, the people involved are sensible and this will not be an issue.  :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2012, 20:25:37
So,still a member then.Just not allowed to participate fully at the moment ?
If you want to see what you can/can't do when banned, drop me a PM early one evening when I'm online, and I'll ban you for 15mins - better not do it tonight, as I need an early night...  ...and I might forget to unban ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:26:05
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

Ahhhh...like my facebook, twitter and ebay accounts. I get it. ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 March 2012, 20:27:17
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D

Actualy we seem to have a mod report that says nothing more than 'Steve smells'.......any takers?
Title: Re: Information
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 06 March 2012, 20:28:07
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

Ahhhh...like my facebook, twitter and ebay accounts. I get it. ;D

Why didnt that suprise me  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 06 March 2012, 20:30:30
So,still a member then.Just not allowed to participate fully at the moment ?
Exactly like the thousands of banned members ;)

The software has to maintain the user account in order to service the ban.  You are looking for an argument that isn't there ;)

Im not looking for an argument at all,just trying to establish the facts clearly.

As some people may know,I have had my differences with Daz in the past,although we have recently resolved our differences. Im by no means his bestest mate,but Im sure he feels very let down indeed by a group of people who he believed to be loyal friends. He put so much into this forum over the years, because he felt part of a community, a family almost.
His back has been against the wall this last week and he has found out who his friends are,found out where loyalties lie,and Im afraid he has discovered that it has been a one way street with the people he would least have expected that from.Talk of postcounts and returning as an admin etc. to me,just shows how far out of touch those doing the talking are. Hes not remotely interested in his postcount, and return as an admin ? Seriously ?  ::)
Lets not forget,he deleted his account because at that moment he thought it would make life easier,less complicated for his fellow mods/admins.
Imo,heads should be hanging in embarrassment.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:30:58
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D

Actualy we seem to have a mod report that says nothing more than 'Steve smells'.......any takers?

Incomplete message. The 'nice' is missing from the end. 8)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: hercules on 06 March 2012, 20:32:16
whens jimbob gonna face the lynch mob ::)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2012, 20:32:39
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D

Actualy we seem to have a mod report that says nothing more than 'Steve smells'.......any takers?
PMSL, you wasn't joking ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 March 2012, 20:33:19
So,still a member then.Just not allowed to participate fully at the moment ?
Exactly like the thousands of banned members ;)

The software has to maintain the user account in order to service the ban.  You are looking for an argument that isn't there ;)

Im not looking for an argument at all,just trying to establish the facts clearly.

As some people may know,I have had my differences with Daz in the past,although we have recently resolved our differences. Im by no means his bestest mate,but Im sure he feels very let down indeed by a group of people who he believed to be loyal friends. He put so much into this forum over the years, because he felt part of a community, a family almost.
His back has been against the wall this last week and he has found out who his friends are,found out where loyalties lie,and Im afraid he has discovered that it has been a one way street with the people he would least have expected that from.Talk of postcounts and returning as an admin etc. to me,just shows how far out of touch those doing the talking are. Hes not remotely interested in his postcount, and return as an admin ? Seriously ?  ::)
Lets not forget,he deleted his account because at that moment he thought it would make life easier,less complicated for his fellow mods/admins.
Imo,heads should be hanging in embarrassment.

A very miss informed statement there Mr Albs, as I am sure you are aware Daz is a good friend to all the admin team.

Inference's are not a good thing when the facts you have are minimal  :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Gaffers on 06 March 2012, 20:34:13
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D

Actualy we seem to have a mod report that says nothing more than 'Steve smells'.......any takers?

Dont tell me that the word filter works on Mod reports too?  That is certainly not what I wrote about Steve, it was much worse ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:35:27
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D

Actualy we seem to have a mod report that says nothing more than 'Steve smells'.......any takers?
PMSL, you wasn't joking ;D

That's 'weren't' not 'wasn't'.
 
Cem...could you teach our admins a bit of grammar please.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Martian on 06 March 2012, 20:36:08
So,still a member then.Just not allowed to participate fully at the moment ?
If you want to see what you can/can't do when banned, drop me a PM early one evening when I'm online, and I'll ban you for 15mins - better not do it tonight, as I need an early night...  ...and I might forget to unban ;D ;D ;D
S'ok...I can tell Albs what happens when a ban is in place  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:37:27
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D

Actualy we seem to have a mod report that says nothing more than 'Steve smells'.......any takers?

Dont tell me that the word filter works on Mod reports too?  That is certainly not what I wrote about Steve, it was much worse ;D

Well....while you're picking on me at least some poor, innocent member is being left in peace ::)
 
 
 
Title: Re: Information
Post by: hotel21 on 06 March 2012, 20:38:29
.....
lots of stuff snipped
......

Imo,heads should be hanging in embarrassment.

I just spent an hour or more on the phone tonight with Daz having a blether, as we have done several times this past week alone, as well as by calls, personal visits, PM's, email and phone calls over the 5 or so years we have known each other.

Please do not presume too much in what I snipped out.  Please......   :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 06 March 2012, 20:38:40
So,still a member then.Just not allowed to participate fully at the moment ?
Exactly like the thousands of banned members ;)

The software has to maintain the user account in order to service the ban.  You are looking for an argument that isn't there ;)

Im not looking for an argument at all,just trying to establish the facts clearly.

As some people may know,I have had my differences with Daz in the past,although we have recently resolved our differences. Im by no means his bestest mate,but Im sure he feels very let down indeed by a group of people who he believed to be loyal friends. He put so much into this forum over the years, because he felt part of a community, a family almost.
His back has been against the wall this last week and he has found out who his friends are,found out where loyalties lie,and Im afraid he has discovered that it has been a one way street with the people he would least have expected that from.Talk of postcounts and returning as an admin etc. to me,just shows how far out of touch those doing the talking are. Hes not remotely interested in his postcount, and return as an admin ? Seriously ?  ::)
Lets not forget,he deleted his account because at that moment he thought it would make life easier,less complicated for his fellow mods/admins.
Imo,heads should be hanging in embarrassment.

A very miss informed statement there Mr Albs, as I am sure you are aware Daz is a good friend to all the admin team.

Inference's are not a good thing when the facts you have are minimal  :y

I have many facts Mark,some of which you dont even have. ;) As and when I find out more facts I will post them up for you. :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 March 2012, 20:39:05
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D

Done....
Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 06 March 2012, 20:39:42
.....
lots of stuff snipped
......

Imo,heads should be hanging in embarrassment.

I just spent an hour or more on the phone tonight with Daz having a blether, as we have done several times this past week alone, as well as by calls, personal visits, PM's, email and phone calls over the 5 or so years we have known each other.

Please do not presume too much in what I snipped out.  Please......   :y

Snipped through guilt ? ::)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:39:49
terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:40:12
Bloody ell, it works ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:41:07
Yaaaaaaawn
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Gaffers on 06 March 2012, 20:41:24
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D

Actualy we seem to have a mod report that says nothing more than 'Steve smells'.......any takers?

Dont tell me that the word filter works on Mod reports too?  That is certainly not what I wrote about Steve, it was much worse ;D

Well....while you're picking on me at least some poor, innocent member is being left in peace ::)

My member has nothing to do with this thre..........ah...... :-[ ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:41:29
But not on loooooong terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tireds ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 March 2012, 20:41:59
::)
STMO123 Oh no........Its that 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' word again...... :D

Its ok, I hit the alert mod button.....oh bugger, that means I have to do something!

You could always stick 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' in the word filter ;D

Actualy we seem to have a mod report that says nothing more than 'Steve smells'.......any takers?
PMSL, you wasn't joking ;D

That's 'weren't' not 'wasn't'.
 
Cem...could you teach our admins a bit of grammar please.

will try my best ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Gaffers on 06 March 2012, 20:42:42
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: hotel21 on 06 March 2012, 20:43:08
.....
lots of stuff snipped
......

Imo,heads should be hanging in embarrassment.

I just spent an hour or more on the phone tonight with Daz having a blether, as we have done several times this past week alone, as well as by calls, personal visits, PM's, email and phone calls over the 5 or so years we have known each other.

Please do not presume too much in what I snipped out.  Please......   :y

Snipped through guilt ? ::)
Please elucidate.  I'm all keyboard....   ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: hercules on 06 March 2012, 20:43:14
 ;D please excuse me im terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2012, 20:44:20
So,still a member then.Just not allowed to participate fully at the moment ?
Exactly like the thousands of banned members ;)

The software has to maintain the user account in order to service the ban.  You are looking for an argument that isn't there ;)

Im not looking for an argument at all,just trying to establish the facts clearly.

As some people may know,I have had my differences with Daz in the past,although we have recently resolved our differences. Im by no means his bestest mate,but Im sure he feels very let down indeed by a group of people who he believed to be loyal friends. He put so much into this forum over the years, because he felt part of a community, a family almost.
His back has been against the wall this last week and he has found out who his friends are,found out where loyalties lie,and Im afraid he has discovered that it has been a one way street with the people he would least have expected that from.Talk of postcounts and returning as an admin etc. to me,just shows how far out of touch those doing the talking are. Hes not remotely interested in his postcount, and return as an admin ? Seriously ?  ::)
Lets not forget,he deleted his account because at that moment he thought it would make life easier,less complicated for his fellow mods/admins.
Imo,heads should be hanging in embarrassment.
I mentioned postcounts and the logistics of reinstating his deleted account because somebody asked.  Again, I think you are looking for something that isn't there.

I have always, and still do, that DLK has been a brilliant ambassador for the forum.

I doubt he would want to be on the Admin Team again, based on previous discussions. Which is a shame IMHO.

As he had deleted his account, the Admin Team have not really discussed him at any more that a personal level.  I would love to see him back here.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Elite Pete on 06 March 2012, 20:45:54
I've never commented on any of the threads about whats going on because quite simply its got nothing to do with me. There was a disagreement between two adults both of them I class as friends and I think it quite sad that they are both not on the forum any more. I also couldn't believe the amount of people who decided to have a say, it reminded me of being back at school (that was a long long time ago). I would have been better if they could have spoken privately and tried to sort things out, even if it meant they agree to disagree with each other

Both Daz and Ljay have been on the forum a long time, they also attend the meets and I hope to see them there again in the future.   
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2012, 20:47:07
So,still a member then.Just not allowed to participate fully at the moment ?
If you want to see what you can/can't do when banned, drop me a PM early one evening when I'm online, and I'll ban you for 15mins - better not do it tonight, as I need an early night...  ...and I might forget to unban ;D ;D ;D
S'ok...I can tell Albs what happens when a ban is in place  ;D ;D
Have we banned you since we went to SMF?  It can always be arranged ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:47:42
I've never commented on any of the threads about whats going on because quite simply its got nothing to do with me. There was a disagreement between two adults both of them I class as friends and I think it quite sad that they are both not on the forum any more. I also couldn't believe the amount of people who decided to have a say, it reminded me of being back at school (that was a long long time ago). I would have been better if they could have spoken privately and tried to sort things out, even if it meant they agree to disagree with each other

Both Daz and Ljay have been on the forum a long time, they also attend the meets and I hope to see them there again in the future.   

Of course you do Pete. Everyone's heard of your penchant for mud wrestling. ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: waspy on 06 March 2012, 20:48:50
Bloody ell, it works ;D

Which is more than you do ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: omegod on 06 March 2012, 20:50:30
Quite a dissapointing result all round really. I have met all involved, Jimbob at Chester meets where he happily scanned the silver beast and cleared a load of old faults for me, Ljay was was perfectly pleasant to me, the family and other meet newbs and Daz who went to great lengths to save my cousin a fortune when his engine went pop and he rebuilt one for him. Basically the spirit that sets this forum far apart from the utter balls that most other car ones are!

I think the one issue thats at the root of this is ego and people not wanting to back down and apologise/admit over reaction.

I have worse barnies every sunday in the local and by Monday it's all sorted without big fall outs FFS ::) 
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 20:51:08
Bloody ell, it works ;D

Which is more than you do ;D

I do work!!!  You try watching 15 hours of shite telly every day and see how you like it.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2012, 20:52:39
Bloody ell, it works ;D

Which is more than you do ;D

I do work!!!  You try watching 15 hours of shite telly every day and see how you like it.
Blimey, I'm glad I work for this tin-pot Yankie 'puter firm ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 March 2012, 20:53:48
Glad that the issue is resolved. Hope that now the dust can be left to settle :y

Aside from only having met the three people involved only once, and therefore not knowing them particularly well, I think that Pete has hit the nail on the head. :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Lazydocker on 06 March 2012, 21:01:53
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y, you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

That's my recollection :-X ::) You can (IIRC) even receive PM's but not reply or post in any way, shape or form
Title: Re: Information
Post by: CaptainZok on 06 March 2012, 21:05:47
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

That's my recollection :-X ::) You can (IIRC) even receive PM's but not reply or post in any way, shape or form
That was on the old forum with the negative post counts but I don't think you can on the new one when banned, trying to PM a banned member gives you a member can't receive pm's message.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 21:07:10
 ::)
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

That's my recollection :-X ::) You can (IIRC) even receive PM's but not reply or post in any way, shape or form

Oh, oh...I feel a pm coming on. ;D
 
No right of reply eh? ::)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Lazydocker on 06 March 2012, 21:07:40
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

That's my recollection :-X ::) You can (IIRC) even receive PM's but not reply or post in any way, shape or form
That was on the old forum with the negative post counts but I don't think you can on the new one when banned, trying to PM a banned member gives you a member can't receive pm's message.
Must only be able to receive from Admins then :-\ :-\ Or on another account :-X :-X ::) ::) :D :D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: CaptainZok on 06 March 2012, 21:09:48
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

That's my recollection :-X ::) You can (IIRC) even receive PM's but not reply or post in any way, shape or form
That was on the old forum with the negative post counts but I don't think you can on the new one when banned, trying to PM a banned member gives you a member can't receive pm's message.
Must only be able to receive from Admins then :-\ :-\ Or on another account :-X :-X ::) ::) :D :D
But who would keep a spare account for when they upset TuBy in case they got banned?
 
Reminds me I must get the ferrets account fixed.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Lazydocker on 06 March 2012, 21:10:31
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

That's my recollection :-X ::) You can (IIRC) even receive PM's but not reply or post in any way, shape or form
That was on the old forum with the negative post counts but I don't think you can on the new one when banned, trying to PM a banned member gives you a member can't receive pm's message.
Must only be able to receive from Admins then :-\ :-\ Or on another account :-X :-X ::) ::) :D :D
But who would keep a spare account for when they upset TuBy in case they got banned?
Dunno... That Guffers bloke might though :-X ::)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: hercules on 06 March 2012, 21:10:56
tunnie must be at work as hes been watching this post for ages,i come to this assumption cos he hasnt posted therefore is asleep therefore at work  ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: CaptainZok on 06 March 2012, 21:11:18
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

That's my recollection :-X ::) You can (IIRC) even receive PM's but not reply or post in any way, shape or form
That was on the old forum with the negative post counts but I don't think you can on the new one when banned, trying to PM a banned member gives you a member can't receive pm's message.
Must only be able to receive from Admins then :-\ :-\ Or on another account :-X :-X ::) ::) :D :D
But who would keep a spare account for when they upset TuBy in case they got banned?
Dunno... That Guffers bloke might though :-X ::)
Nah the General wouldn't allow it. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Gaffers on 06 March 2012, 21:11:31
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

That's my recollection :-X ::) You can (IIRC) even receive PM's but not reply or post in any way, shape or form
That was on the old forum with the negative post counts but I don't think you can on the new one when banned, trying to PM a banned member gives you a member can't receive pm's message.
Must only be able to receive from Admins then :-\ :-\ Or on another account :-X :-X ::) ::) :D :D
But who would keep a spare account for when they upset TuBy in case they got banned?
Dunno... That Guffers bloke might though :-X ::)

Nah, that's just my boss.  At least I dont masquerade as my wife like some on here  ::)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: CaptainZok on 06 March 2012, 21:12:39
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

That's my recollection :-X ::) You can (IIRC) even receive PM's but not reply or post in any way, shape or form
That was on the old forum with the negative post counts but I don't think you can on the new one when banned, trying to PM a banned member gives you a member can't receive pm's message.
Must only be able to receive from Admins then :-\ :-\ Or on another account :-X :-X ::) ::) :D :D
But who would keep a spare account for when they upset TuBy in case they got banned?
Dunno... That Guffers bloke might though :-X ::)

Nah, that's just my boss.  At least I dont masquerade as my wife like some on here  ::)
Only because her clothes don't fit you.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 21:12:53
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

That's my recollection :-X ::) You can (IIRC) even receive PM's but not reply or post in any way, shape or form
That was on the old forum with the negative post counts but I don't think you can on the new one when banned, trying to PM a banned member gives you a member can't receive pm's message.
Must only be able to receive from Admins then :-\ :-\ Or on another account :-X :-X ::) ::) :D :D
But who would keep a spare account for when they upset TuBy in case they got banned?
Dunno... That Guffers bloke might though :-X ::)

Nah, that's just my boss.  At least I dont masquerade as my wife like some on here  ::)

Meeeooowwww ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: dad1uk on 06 March 2012, 21:14:01
Well lets let the dust settle.
It's a shame it was all blown up as big as it was.
As mentioned by others, it would have been great if it could have been settled over a civilised phone call without all the mud slinging that has gone on in public on the forum!
Daz is a great loss to the forum :(, but I feel sure he will still offer help if required. If nothing else he is a bloody good mechanic! :y
Laura was an angel to Jan and I in Newent while we were waiting for the ambulance to arrive, and to be honest anytime we have met several times at meets or at the Lakes meet she has been nothing but very nice!
I think Jimbob did probably what we all would have done if placed in the same situation and probably regrets acting without talking to the other Mods first.
Let's hope this might serve as a warning of what the outcome can be of some of the silliness that ocasionaly appears on the Forum!
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Gaffers on 06 March 2012, 21:14:43
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

That's my recollection :-X ::) You can (IIRC) even receive PM's but not reply or post in any way, shape or form
That was on the old forum with the negative post counts but I don't think you can on the new one when banned, trying to PM a banned member gives you a member can't receive pm's message.
Must only be able to receive from Admins then :-\ :-\ Or on another account :-X :-X ::) ::) :D :D
But who would keep a spare account for when they upset TuBy in case they got banned?
Dunno... That Guffers bloke might though :-X ::)

Nah, that's just my boss.  At least I dont masquerade as my wife like some on here  ::)

Meeeooowwww ;D

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 21:16:41
Yeah but surely if she has been banned, she shouldn't be able to log on, which she must have done for her profile to show her as being online last night?  :-\
Actually, as it happens, I don't think it allows you to log off, from what I remember from when I got banned ;D

But, to all intents and purposes, its no different to being a guest.

According to a resident expert  :y , you get a screen that says 'banned' and nothing else but due to some processes, the last online time will be updated. :y

That's my recollection :-X ::) You can (IIRC) even receive PM's but not reply or post in any way, shape or form
That was on the old forum with the negative post counts but I don't think you can on the new one when banned, trying to PM a banned member gives you a member can't receive pm's message.
Must only be able to receive from Admins then :-\ :-\ Or on another account :-X :-X ::) ::) :D :D
But who would keep a spare account for when they upset TuBy in case they got banned?
Dunno... That Guffers bloke might though :-X ::)

Nah, that's just my boss.  At least I dont masquerade as my wife like some on here  ::)

Meeeooowwww ;D

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

Hmmmm...they'd have to replace that one with 'Excuse me but I'm rather knackered' ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: hercules on 06 March 2012, 21:17:07
hes gone now  ::)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 21:17:47
hes gone now  ::)

Who?
Title: Re: Information
Post by: CaptainZok on 06 March 2012, 21:18:34
You
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 21:19:23
You

Have I? Good night then.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Martian on 06 March 2012, 21:23:01
So,still a member then.Just not allowed to participate fully at the moment ?
If you want to see what you can/can't do when banned, drop me a PM early one evening when I'm online, and I'll ban you for 15mins - better not do it tonight, as I need an early night...  ...and I might forget to unban ;D ;D ;D
S'ok...I can tell Albs what happens when a ban is in place  ;D ;D
Have we banned you since we went to SMF?  It can always be arranged ;D
The missus has multiple alarm times set in her phone to make sure I take my meds on time these days....and I've grown tired of finding anonymous proxies and forcing IP address changes  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 06 March 2012, 21:23:16
I think pete has also hit the nail on the head........in all honesty my support in this matter would go to Daz without a doubt but thats my opinion. BUT

Jimbob made a mistake but he was in a difficult situation and i am glad he is still here

Ljay over reacted and lets face it the ladies taken a huge slating looking in a lot of the recent posts, you lot have more history than i do with her but she has always been friendly to me and no one should be openly slated on the forum like that

there are no winners only loosers in this whole affair

it is clear we all want Daz back and i really hope he returns

I agree with admin that unfortunatley for Ljay it is difficult for jimbob to be a moderator all the time she is an active member and its sad she has to give up her membership

I think admin have a difficult and sometimes unrewarding time consuming task as it is without being slated for what is a sensative issue for all concerened

Personally i was going to leave the forum after the recent events something did not feel the same. Not that i am full of self importance.

But no memer is bigger than the forum and its everyone that makes it from the party political broadcasts to the odd wined up that may go wrong. The help and contribution eveyone makes is what keeps it alive.

every post is a contribution good and bad and I for one appreciate that :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: hercules on 06 March 2012, 21:27:35
hes gone now  ::)

Who?
tunnie must be at work as hes been watching this post for ages,i come to this assumption cos he hasnt posted therefore is asleep therefore at work 

he went shortly after this  :D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 21:28:30
hes gone now  ::)

Who?
tunnie must be at work as hes been watching this post for ages,i come to this assumption cos he hasnt posted therefore is asleep therefore at work 

he went shortly after this  :D

All right Daz. Thanks for explaining that ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 06 March 2012, 21:30:12
Albs is gone too. Why didn't you tell me? ???
Title: Re: Information
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 March 2012, 21:31:42
I think pete has also hit the nail on the head........in all honesty my support in this matter would go to Daz without a doubt but thats my opinion. BUT

Jimbob made a mistake but he was in a difficult situation and i am glad he is still here

Ljay over reacted and lets face it the ladies taken a huge slating looking in a lot of the recent posts, you lot have more history than i do with her but she has always been friendly to me and no one should be openly slated on the forum like that

there are no winners only loosers in this whole affair

it is clear we all want Daz back and i really hope he returns

I agree with admin that unfortunatley for Ljay it is difficult for jimbob to be a moderator all the time she is an active member and its sad she has to give up her membership

I think admin have a difficult and sometimes unrewarding time consuming task as it is without being slated for what is a sensative issue for all concerened

Personally i was going to leave the forum after the recent events something did not feel the same. Not that i am full of self importance.

But no memer is bigger than the forum and its everyone that makes it from the party political broadcasts to the odd wined up that may go wrong. The help and contribution eveyone makes is what keeps it alive.

every post is a contribution good and bad and I for one appreciate that :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Andy B on 06 March 2012, 21:45:47
My only concern going forward is that Jimbob must keep his access to OOF admin very secure.  If Ljay has been banned and feels aggrieved by it, then can you imagine the damage she could cause if she got into the admin area!!  :o

'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned' and all that...  ::)

I certainly wouldn't want to be in his shoes tonight...  :-\

Worry not, the people involved are sensible and this will not be an issue.  :y

IIRC it was these 'sensible' members that got us to the sorry position that we are in now!  ??? ???
Title: Re: Information
Post by: twiglet on 06 March 2012, 21:54:02
My only concern going forward is that Jimbob must keep his access to OOF admin very secure.  If Ljay has been banned and feels aggrieved by it, then can you imagine the damage she could cause if she got into the admin area!!  :o

'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned' and all that...  ::)

I certainly wouldn't want to be in his shoes tonight...  :-\

Worry not, the people involved are sensible and this will not be an issue.  :y

IIRC it was these 'sensible' members that got us to the sorry position that we are in now!  ??? ???

I have to admit, I did have the same thoughts Andy.  :-\
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Martian on 06 March 2012, 21:55:23
IIRC it was these 'sensible' members that got us to the sorry position that we are in now!  ??? ???
In that case, I'm gonna stop taking the Ritalin  ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Vamps on 06 March 2012, 21:58:26
I have kept out of all this, and the original post, all I would like to say is the whole things is a sad and sorry state of affairs..... :( :( :(
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Tony H on 06 March 2012, 22:37:50
I've never commented on any of the threads about whats going on because quite simply its got nothing to do with me. There was a disagreement between two adults both of them I class as friends and I think it quite sad that they are both not on the forum any more. I also couldn't believe the amount of people who decided to have a say, it reminded me of being back at school (that was a long long time ago). I would have been better if they could have spoken privately and tried to sort things out, even if it meant they agree to disagree with each other

Both Daz and Ljay have been on the forum a long time, they also attend the meets and I hope to see them there again in the future.   

Well said Pete
Title: Re: Information
Post by: henryd on 06 March 2012, 22:48:04
I have kept out of all this, and the original post, all I would like to say is the whole things is a sad and sorry state of affairs..... :( :( :(

I agree vamps, which is why I haven't commented on the subject :-\
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Brikhead on 06 March 2012, 23:15:13
I may as well add to Vamps and henryds post's that it is a sad state of affairs...

I think cem made the most sensible comments somewhere in the middle of this thread.

Also perhaps tunnie is a slow reader?
Title: Re: Information
Post by: cleggy on 06 March 2012, 23:32:46
Unless I am very much mistaken and I hope I am not Loo-Knee is reading this topic as a newbie :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: tunnie on 06 March 2012, 23:40:02
I may as well add to Vamps and henryds post's that it is a sad state of affairs...

I think cem made the most sensible comments somewhere in the middle of this thread.

Also perhaps tunnie is a slow reader?

 ??? ???
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Vamps on 06 March 2012, 23:41:40
Unless I am very much mistaken and I hope I am not Loo-Knee is reading this topic as a newbie :y :y :y :y

Not when you look in the meets section, he shows a a guest....... :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Information
Post by: feeutfo on 06 March 2012, 23:42:05
I may as well add to Vamps and henryds post's that it is a sad state of affairs...

I think cem made the most sensible comments somewhere in the middle of this thread.

Also perhaps tunnie is a slow reader?

 ??? ???
as opposed to long sleeper?
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 06 March 2012, 23:55:09
Where do I start?

I have read the several different threads all about this "carry on" over and over.

Jimbob in my view has and is a well picked Moderator for the Forum. The amount of stuff he has done on the computer side etc is well beyond anything I dream to know about the things.
I was offended yes by being Banned by him. Which put me into a position I did not feel happy being in and so I hit the delete button.

Ljay has been to my house, we have shared personal matters and the odd tear. Although I do believe she is far more chilled in person than online. Maybe Laura was right and this should have been sorted out before now?
Maybe this is a lesson to be learned by us all?

I have done over 5 years on here and it (sad I know) becomes part of your life. I have made some friends that I will stay friends with for years to come. I am aware not everyone will like me, or even think that I should be a Moderator on here... I actually agree myself at times. Yet, I do only want the Best for the Forum however daft that may sound at this moment in time.   

It does seem to have taken a bit longer to get this sorted than I personally would have liked, and yet as we all know the Admins/Mods do this in their spare time and it is hard to get them together at the same time.

I am sorry that I was something to do with this upset to the Forum, although I do think it was somnething that needed addressing, hopefully it will not be allowed to go on for so long in future.


Daz
Title: Re: Information
Post by: henryd on 06 March 2012, 23:58:20
nice to see you back on Daz,even better if you stay :y :y :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: CaptainZok on 06 March 2012, 23:59:37
Yawwwwwnnnn  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Andy B on 07 March 2012, 00:07:27
Hi Daz  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: davethediver on 07 March 2012, 00:07:52
Where do I start?

I have read the several different threads all about this "carry on" over and over.

Jimbob in my view has and is a well picked Moderator for the Forum. The amount of stuff he has done on the computer side etc is well beyond anything I dream to know about the things.
I was offended yes by being Banned by him. Which put me into a position I did not feel happy being in and so I hit the delete button.

Ljay has been to my house, we have shared personal matters and the odd tear. Although I do believe she is far more chilled in person than online. Maybe Laura was right and this should have been sorted out before now?
Maybe this is a lesson to be learned by us all?

I have done over 5 years on here and it (sad I know) becomes part of your life. I have made some friends that I will stay friends with for years to come. I am aware not everyone will like me, or even think that I should be a Moderator on here... I actually agree myself at times. Yet, I do only want the Best for the Forum however daft that may sound at this moment in time.   

It does seem to have taken a bit longer to get this sorted than I personally would have liked, and yet as we all know the Admins/Mods do this in their spare time and it is hard to get them together at the same time.

I am sorry that I was something to do with this upset to the Forum, although I do think it was somnething that needed addressing, hopefully it will not be allowed to go on for so long in future.


Daz

Regardless of all the shite that's been spoken well done for a public statement, now lets all  (those that were directly involved or mere spectators) wipe our mouths, wobble our heads and move on with a bit of banter and fixing our ten year old cars :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: robbo299 on 07 March 2012, 00:11:27
Well said Daz mate. Respect  :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Vamps on 07 March 2012, 00:15:34
Thank goodness for that.. :y  I have not yet brought Miss Vamps up to date and if she found out that you had gone it  would have been my fault, as everything is...... ::) ::) :y :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 07 March 2012, 00:18:01
Thank goodness for that.. :y  I have not yet brought Miss Vamps up to date and if she found out that you had gone it  would have been my fault, as everything is...... ::) ::) :y :y

ELF would have been right off course it would have been your fault ........
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Vamps on 07 March 2012, 00:23:04
Thank goodness for that.. :y  I have not yet brought Miss Vamps up to date and if she found out that you had gone it  would have been my fault, as everything is...... ::) ::) :y :y

ELF would have been right off course it would have been your fault ........

Daz, everything is my fault, she was late out of youth club tonight, was my fault cos I was in the Mig and not the Jeep..... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Ratty on 07 March 2012, 00:24:04
Good to see you back Daz. Glad things are getting or have been sorted out mate, I think we all have a tantrum and throw the toys out of the pram now and again, it's always good to resolve differences amicably, life's too short to hold grudges.

Title: Re: Information
Post by: albitz on 07 March 2012, 00:29:33
Glad your back where you belong Daz.It would have been very unfair to say the least if you had felt you needed to stay away long term. :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 07 March 2012, 00:33:50
Not sure how much longer I could have stayed away being honest Albs.

I also know that over time friendships can sometimes be repaired, none of us are getting any younger :-[, especially you  :P ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: feeutfo on 07 March 2012, 00:37:07
Gota find them pink clogs of yours now then?
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 07 March 2012, 00:38:09
Gota find them pink clogs of yours now then?

Sadly they are lost forever  :'(
Title: Re: Information
Post by: feeutfo on 07 March 2012, 00:39:51
Gota find them pink clogs of yours now then?

Sadly they are lost forever  :'(
What? No reward for info leading to the where abouts? ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 07 March 2012, 00:41:25
Gota find them pink clogs of yours now then?

Sadly they are lost forever  :'(
What? No reward for info leading to the where abouts? ;D

That sounds awefully like you are after a reward there Gixer.... hmm I wonder if you had something to do with the Kidnapping??? ???
Title: Re: Information
Post by: feeutfo on 07 March 2012, 00:53:51
Gota find them pink clogs of yours now then?

Sadly they are lost forever  :'(
What? No reward for info leading to the where abouts? ;D

That sounds awefully like you are after a reward there Gixer.... hmm I wonder if you had something to do with the Kidnapping??? ???
Seems a sensible thing to do to me? :-\
Title: Re: Information
Post by: CaptainZok on 07 March 2012, 00:57:44
Gota find them pink clogs of yours now then?

Sadly they are lost forever  :'(
What? No reward for info leading to the where abouts? ;D

That sounds awefully like you are after a reward there Gixer.... hmm I wonder if you had something to do with the Kidnapping??? ???
Seems a sensible thing to do to me? :-\
It's what you'd expect a caring owner to do.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 07 March 2012, 01:03:42
Daz, I know we haven't always seen eye to eye over a couple of (in the scheme of it, very silly) points, but as per my PM I'm genuinely pleased you're back with the forum mate, and I look forward to chatting to you when I can finally make it to a meet you're at :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Seth on 07 March 2012, 01:16:05
Gota find them pink clogs of yours now then?

Quit playing 'Mr Innocent' young 'Gixer ...........

You and 'Docker were heard plotting the demise of the Great One's footwear at Newent.
Me 'n' the Captain were respectably enjoying a late evening drinky winky, and couldn't believe our ears :o
C'mon man: Own up to this dastardly crime 8)



Oh, and good to see ya back in the fold Daz! :y
(And  :-* from Pam too!)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: ozzycat on 07 March 2012, 01:21:48
 :y :y bloody glad your back daz :y :y :y [ive got a blue with pink spots  pair if your desperate mate] :D :D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: CaptainZok on 07 March 2012, 01:32:13
:y :y bloody glad your back daz :y :y :y [ive got a blue with pink spots  pair if your desperate mate] :D :D
He's always been desperate.
Oh for crocs you mean. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: cleggy on 07 March 2012, 02:51:48
Told You So  ::) ::) I was not wrong  :) :)

Sanity restored or should that be insanity, Welcome back to the Dark Side Lord :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 07 March 2012, 06:30:36
Where do I start?

I have read the several different threads all about this "carry on" over and over.

Jimbob in my view has and is a well picked Moderator for the Forum. The amount of stuff he has done on the computer side etc is well beyond anything I dream to know about the things.
I was offended yes by being Banned by him. Which put me into a position I did not feel happy being in and so I hit the delete button.

Ljay has been to my house, we have shared personal matters and the odd tear. Although I do believe she is far more chilled in person than online. Maybe Laura was right and this should have been sorted out before now?
Maybe this is a lesson to be learned by us all?

I have done over 5 years on here and it (sad I know) becomes part of your life. I have made some friends that I will stay friends with for years to come. I am aware not everyone will like me, or even think that I should be a Moderator on here... I actually agree myself at times. Yet, I do only want the Best for the Forum however daft that may sound at this moment in time.   

It does seem to have taken a bit longer to get this sorted than I personally would have liked, and yet as we all know the Admins/Mods do this in their spare time and it is hard to get them together at the same time.

I am sorry that I was something to do with this upset to the Forum, although I do think it was somnething that needed addressing, hopefully it will not be allowed to go on for so long in future.


Daz

Well total respect Daz well said and i am so glad you have decided I hope to come back to something I know you loved so much or is it just so you get a chance to talk to me :-* :-*

I do hope though out of all this that the disscussions on and off the forum have shown you what a well respected and loved person you are and i hope you continue to be a part of the admin team where imho is where you belong

Great to see you back matey :y missed you :-*
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Gaffers on 07 March 2012, 06:52:14
Oh break!  Pinky's back!

I thought our plan to get rid of you had worked too ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Bionic on 07 March 2012, 06:56:45
Where do I start?

I have read the several different threads all about this "carry on" over and over.

Jimbob in my view has and is a well picked Moderator for the Forum. The amount of stuff he has done on the computer side etc is well beyond anything I dream to know about the things.
I was offended yes by being Banned by him. Which put me into a position I did not feel happy being in and so I hit the delete button.

Ljay has been to my house, we have shared personal matters and the odd tear. Although I do believe she is far more chilled in person than online. Maybe Laura was right and this should have been sorted out before now?
Maybe this is a lesson to be learned by us all?

I have done over 5 years on here and it (sad I know) becomes part of your life. I have made some friends that I will stay friends with for years to come. I am aware not everyone will like me, or even think that I should be a Moderator on here... I actually agree myself at times. Yet, I do only want the Best for the Forum however daft that may sound at this moment in time.   

It does seem to have taken a bit longer to get this sorted than I personally would have liked, and yet as we all know the Admins/Mods do this in their spare time and it is hard to get them together at the same time.

I am sorry that I was something to do with this upset to the Forum, although I do think it was somnething that needed addressing, hopefully it will not be allowed to go on for so long in future.


Daz

 :y :y GREAT you have made the right decision. The phone chat must have clicked the right button. See you on Saturday with the usual tinnies that might just be bottles, pity I will have ration mine for the drive home  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Debs. on 07 March 2012, 07:55:01
......and the odd tear......

  :P That`s torn it! :P
Title: Re: Information
Post by: twiglet on 07 March 2012, 08:13:31
Good to see you back Daz!  :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: PhilRich on 07 March 2012, 08:27:27
'Happy Daz is here again, the sky above is clear again,
so lets sing a song of cheer again
Happy Daz is here again!'
 ;D :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: cleggy on 07 March 2012, 09:37:23
Now what about his post count  ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: blackviper90210 on 07 March 2012, 10:07:24
Not had the pleasure,  ::), of meeting you Daz, but have seen the amount of work & advice you have given over the years!  Glad to see you back amongst us :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 March 2012, 10:34:12
I've personally kept well out of this situ cos it's none of my business...

but Daz, good to see you back you pink prat  ;D imo you are invaluable to us all  :-*

...... OOF should be renamed hotel california... you can check out any time you like but you can never leave!  ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 March 2012, 10:41:19
And just like a bad smell.......the pink wonder returns  ;D :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Bionic on 07 March 2012, 10:57:35
 :D
You been around his blow offs too then?  :D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: tigers_gonads on 07 March 2012, 11:05:17
Good to see you back Daz  :)

Now its all sorted, any chance of a naked tag match in the mud pit between Daz, Laura and Jimbob  ;D :D :D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Nickbat on 07 March 2012, 11:23:23
Welcome back, Daz!  :y :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 March 2012, 13:32:53
Good to see you back Daz..  :y

happy to see you and Ljay talk and solved the problem.. waiting for the next round ;D :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Rods2 on 07 March 2012, 13:55:39
Good to see you back Daz. Your country fellow OOFers need you.  :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Tony H on 07 March 2012, 15:59:51
Welcome back Daz I hope your feeling "In the pink"  :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: ozzycat on 07 March 2012, 16:02:14
 :y :y hope you get your post count back daz :y :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Auto Addict on 07 March 2012, 16:13:03
:y :y hope you get your post count back daz :y :y

No chance :D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 07 March 2012, 18:55:40
:y :y hope you get your post count back daz :y :y
I'm looking at that, not entirely sure its possible, given some other scripts we run that will reset it.  But I'm actively looking into it :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 07 March 2012, 18:56:30
Welcome back, (Darth) Loo-knee, delighted to have you back :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: b4ndit on 07 March 2012, 19:05:56
Welcome back :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: tunnie on 07 March 2012, 19:26:51
Good to see you've changed your mind  :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 07 March 2012, 19:33:45
:y :y hope you get your post count back daz :y :y
I'm looking at that, not entirely sure its possible, given some other scripts we run that will reset it.  But I'm actively looking into it :y

Right! I've waited a long time for this. You've always said that I can't have my big knob postcount back because I commited hari kiri. So did Pinkie, so if he gets his... I WANT MINE!!!!!!!!! Or I'll scweam and scweam until I'm sick.(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n156/stmo987/pukeface.gif)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 07 March 2012, 19:40:07
:y :y hope you get your post count back daz :y :y
I'm looking at that, not entirely sure its possible, given some other scripts we run that will reset it.  But I'm actively looking into it :y

Just have a guess......far easier and post counts dont really matter imo......and while your about it give that old git STMO a few extra to calm him down  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: hotel21 on 07 March 2012, 19:57:09
The changing of the numbers is the easy bit.
   ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: markspark on 07 March 2012, 20:02:15
Welcome Loo-Knee to OOF im sure you will love being here and if there is anything you need just ask  ;D Also be sure to read the FAQ of the site as many questions have been asked and answered by someone named Darth-Loo-Knee (he knows his onions)

Anyway welcome back Daz :y :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 March 2012, 20:05:11
Welcome Loo-Knee to OOF im sure you will love being here and if there is anything you need just ask  ;D Also be sure to read the FAQ of the site as many questions have been asked and answered by someone named Darth-Loo-Knee (he knows his onions)

Anyway welcome back Daz :y :y

 ;D ;D ;D And be sure to say hello in the newbie welcome area.... we're a friendly bunch  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 07 March 2012, 20:06:47
Welcome Loo-Knee to OOF im sure you will love being here and if there is anything you need just ask  ;D Also be sure to read the FAQ of the site as many questions have been asked and answered by someone named Darth-Loo-Knee (he knows his onions)

Anyway welcome back Daz :y :y

 ;D ;D ;D And be sure to say hello in the newbie welcome area.... we're a friendly bunch  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

He already has;
 
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=100420.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=100420.0)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: ozzycat on 07 March 2012, 20:38:29
:y :y hope you get your post count back daz :y :y

No chance :D
:D :D :D i only asked [sulk sulk] :D ;D :y :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Auto Addict on 08 March 2012, 08:07:38
Lets keep this thread for what it was first intended, please.

Admin.
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 08 March 2012, 10:49:50
Lets keep this thread for what it was first intended, please.

Admin.

Oh yes. Of course. Sorry Mr admin sir.
There was nearly a bit of fun breaking out there. Tut tut
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Martian on 08 March 2012, 11:21:03
Lets keep this thread for what it was first intended, please.

Admin.

Oh yes. Of course. Sorry Mr admin sir.
There was nearly a bit of fun breaking out there. Tut tut
Dunno whether it was your post showing your old avatar, or my reply to you where I posted a "mood badge" style avatar as a possible alternative for you that said "Do I look like a f***ing people person"

When I saw your post showing your old avatar and how long it had been there, I (like you) thought that Admin had finally relaxed a little. I guess that isn't the case and that I'll have to double check that I've taken my Ritalin on time before I post so I don't get banned again  ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: STMO123 on 08 March 2012, 11:43:22
Life is very short and very fragile, as you are aware my friend, and I refuse to let anyone or anything grind me down. If someone finds my posts offensive, they can delete to their hearts content. The next one will be equally odious  ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2012, 12:15:05
I guess that isn't the case and that I'll have to double check that I've taken my Ritalin on time before I post so I don't get banned again  ;D
We don't mean to be the Fun Police. Believe it or not, the Admins like a giggle as well. Apparently.


We have to try to judge the intention of a post, and also the likely reaction to it, if that makes sense...
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Martian on 08 March 2012, 12:48:32
We have to try to judge the intention of a post, and also the likely reaction to it, if that makes sense...
I'm sure AA knew it was a bit of fun, and I guessed straight away that they were pulled because there was bound to be at least one complaint from those here (no names, no pack drill ;) ) that are easily offended by seeing the F word in full.

Part of me fully expected the posts to be removed to be honest, but it was fun while it lasted  ;)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Auto Addict on 08 March 2012, 16:33:50
Lets keep this thread for what it was first intended, please.

Admin.

Oh yes. Of course. Sorry Mr admin sir.
There was nearly a bit of fun breaking out there. Tut tut

Dangleberries :-*
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Gaffers on 08 March 2012, 17:48:38
Lets keep this thread for what it was first intended, please.

Admin.

Oh yes. Of course. Sorry Mr admin sir.
There was nearly a bit of fun breaking out there. Tut tut

Dangleberries :-*

terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired
Title: Re: Information
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 08 March 2012, 22:58:02
http://youtu.be/jkH_Vl4KJag
Title: Re: Information
Post by: ozzycat on 08 March 2012, 23:03:25
 :y :y :y yep like that very apt paul  :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: tidla on 08 March 2012, 23:04:50
http://youtu.be/jkH_Vl4KJag

was that 13ollocks the best you could find. ;D

Title: Re: Information
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 08 March 2012, 23:06:02
 ;D ;D ;D i tried ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 08 March 2012, 23:07:17
when i tried to find a song with pink and loo knee in it, all that came up was a transvestite with a big arse :o :o
Title: Re: Information
Post by: ozzycat on 08 March 2012, 23:12:02
when i tried to find a song with pink and loo knee in it, all that came up was a transvestite with a big arse :o :o
;D ;D ;D how about lily the pink  by the scafold :D :D
Title: Re: Information
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 08 March 2012, 23:18:14
 ;D ;D ;D suggestions on a post...card
Title: Re: Information
Post by: hotel21 on 08 March 2012, 23:22:50
I guess that isn't the case and that I'll have to double check that I've taken my Ritalin on time before I post so I don't get banned again  ;D
We don't mean to be the Fun Police. Believe it or not, the Admins like a giggle as well. Apparently.


We have to try to judge the intention of a post, and also the likely reaction to it, if that makes sense...


Without wanting to appear to misquote/outcontext TB, but we know GenDiss is expected to go off on a tangent and bear little resemblance to reality so - just once, - any chance we could steer this thread back towards the serious original intent without it degenerating into the normal playground pisstakes and banter?   ;D

The admins were are trying to maintain at least one straigh(ish) path towards a happy conclusion.

With a wee help from the regular suspects contributors, perhaps we can?

slainge.....   :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Vamps on 08 March 2012, 23:50:01
I guess that isn't the case and that I'll have to double check that I've taken my Ritalin on time before I post so I don't get banned again  ;D
We don't mean to be the Fun Police. Believe it or not, the Admins like a giggle as well. Apparently.


We have to try to judge the intention of a post, and also the likely reaction to it, if that makes sense...


Without wanting to appear to misquote/outcontext TB, but we know GenDiss is expected to go off on a tangent and bear little resemblance to reality so - just once, - any chance we could steer this thread back towards the serious original intent without it degenerating into the normal playground pisstakes and banter?   ;D

The admins were are trying to maintain at least one straigh(ish) path towards a happy conclusion.

With a wee help from the regular suspects contributors, perhaps we can?

slainge.....   :y

I agree with what you say.. :y But, there is always a but, following agreement... :D :D is it not time to close this issue and move on. I see no benefit in continued discussion, it is encouraging equally unpleasant debate on other Internet  chat area's, there comes a point where we must draw a line and move on, and I personally think we have reached that point..... :)
Title: Re: Information
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 08 March 2012, 23:51:27
I guess that isn't the case and that I'll have to double check that I've taken my Ritalin on time before I post so I don't get banned again  ;D
We don't mean to be the Fun Police. Believe it or not, the Admins like a giggle as well. Apparently.


We have to try to judge the intention of a post, and also the likely reaction to it, if that makes sense...


Without wanting to appear to misquote/outcontext TB, but we know GenDiss is expected to go off on a tangent and bear little resemblance to reality so - just once, - any chance we could steer this thread back towards the serious original intent without it degenerating into the normal playground pisstakes and banter?   ;D

The admins were are trying to maintain at least one straigh(ish) path towards a happy conclusion.
With a wee help from the regular suspects contributors, perhaps we can?

slainge.....   :y

I think H21 Admin has acheived this and normal service has ressumed sad that we have lost 1 member but very gratefull it was not 3

cheers :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: Jimbob on 09 March 2012, 10:20:39
Indeed, Its very sad on a personal and OOF level to have lost a (rare female) member who contributed a lot on here, and always attended the meets.

Some of you did not see eye to eye with her over a variety of topics....She had an equal number of good friends on here. 

Very sad she has simply been banned and brushed under the carpet, and the resolution is not a happy one imho, esp as she 'only reacted' to being provoked on this occasion.

I know the reasons why this action has been taken, and although may not agree, will stand by the decision made by admin.

No point in further going over old ground.  We now need to move on.

Title: Re: Information
Post by: Entwood on 09 March 2012, 10:34:30
Indeed, Its very sad on a personal and OOF level to have lost a (rare female) member who contributed a lot on here, and always attended the meets.

Some of you did not see eye to eye with her over a variety of topics....She had an equal number of good friends on here. 

Very sad she has simply been banned and brushed under the carpet, and the resolution is not a happy one imho, esp as she 'only reacted' to being provoked on this occasion.

I know the reasons why this action has been taken, and although may not agree, will stand by the decision made by admin.

No point in further going over old ground.  We now need to move on.

Not how I read post #31 in any sense ...

Jimbob has done a great job on the Admin Team over the past 2 or 3 years, with this being the only time we think he made an error of judgement.

Based on that, the plan is to reinstate him as a Moderator, as before.  We all make mistakes sometimes.


Its apparent that Moderators cannot be allowed to moderate when it involves somebody very close to them, as it can lead to, perceived or otherwise, inappropriate moderation. Currently, the view is that if you are a member of the Admin Team, you cannot have close family as members. This may change.


As to Darth Loo-Knee, he, sadly decided to leave.  I hope he chooses to rejoin.  If he does, I personally would be happy to have him back on the Admin Team, but that is my own personal view - we have not fully discussed the scenario, as he is currently not a member.


I apologise for the seemingly slow response.  As the Admin Team are all on at different times, in depth discussions do take several days.

TheBoy

 :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Information
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 09 March 2012, 11:35:17
welcome back jimbob

I appreciate what you say and feel for the position you are in I only hope in time things move on and any wounds heal

imho i think enough has been said already and its time to draw a line under it all

and for what it worth as much as i like daz i am sad that Ljay is no longer a member and hope in time her return happens even though you do and should continue to moderate

there have been no winners imo only loosers

Daz has made a statement of sorts and so have you lets move on :y
Title: Re: Information
Post by: hotel21 on 09 March 2012, 21:13:43
Speaking on a quite personal basis I feel that this subject has now been well covered and relevant points raised have been considered according to their merits, as and however required on a public forum and as such, there is absolutely nothing whatsoever to be gained by continually picking at an old scab.  If we do, it will never get a chance to heal.

On that basis and reasoning, now locking this thread and, hopefully, it will be the last on the matter and thus allow all involved to move on as however they wish to the future.

 :y