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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: omegod on 29 October 2012, 14:38:33
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Howdy. Looking to get some form of computer tablet for my 9 yr old daughter for xmas. The obvious choice would be the Ipad but I have seen some more reasonably priced ones such as Nexus 7 and the like. Question is will these be able to download the kind of stuff she currently does to her Ipod? Itunes and other apps etc? To be honest she won't be doing a great deal on it just browsing,games,music, video and general mucking about but I would like to get her one.
Anyone able to reccomend some other devices ?
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If she has an iTunes account, she can download all her existing apps and songs etc to any of her apple devices no problem.
Provided she uses the same account of course.
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iTunes is an apple product and a load of shite, you would use Google Play store for Android tablets. Has similar range of apps and games for general use.
none of the Sky products are designed for android tablet though.
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I'd personally go for an Android tablet over an Apple one, for no other reason than I can do what I want, when I want with it.
I'm not talking about modding with custom ROM's or anything like that (although that can open up a whole host of new capabilities), I'm talking just the simple ability to (say) send a pic to another device using Bluetooth.
Finding apps won't be a problem either, whatever is on the Apple store will also have an equivalent on the Play store.
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Have a gay Sony tablet here, no complaints :y has wifi /bluetooth usb and hdmi outputs, so should connect to most anything :y
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If Apple is what she is used to, iPad would be the obvious choice.
crApple has advantages from an ease-of-use perspective, as crApple (try to) control everything. Its a model known as Walled Garden. Its a model Microsoft are going down with its Windows 8 tablets (and the Modern UI Apps on desktop Windows 8). It also adds incredible stability, something even now, Android can't match.
All providers are trying to distance themselves from the old open architecture model than made, for example, Wintel so dominant on the desktop, for a more lucrative, closed, ongoing revenue stream model. Thus control.
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PC World are doing the 64GB Blackberry Playbook for £129. It's an absolute bargain at that price.
I've had a little mess with it and it seems to be a cracking little tablet.
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iPad is the blatently obvious choice, as she already has iPod.
If it wasn't for that single fact, I would suggest a more open minded approach. And cirtainly concider android. But in this case IPad.
Although it ain't cheap.
Let's not get stuck with recommending what we have as that's what's best for us. It's for the op with different requirements to our selves. That being at the very least, an existing iPod music library.
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PC World are doing the 64GB Blackberry Playbook for £129. It's an absolute bargain at that price.
I've had a little mess with it and it seems to be a cracking little tablet.
My lad bought one of them as he couldn't afford the ipad,have to say its a nice bit of kit,not that well served with apps but he's not worried about that :y
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PC World are doing the 64GB Blackberry Playbook for £129. It's an absolute bargain at that price.
I've had a little mess with it and it seems to be a cracking little tablet.
sorry but those things are just total shite, crap to use. Poor interface, its frustrating to use there are no apps for it. Pay more and avoid that piece of crap.
I'd look at Nexus 7 or iPad
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PC World are doing the 64GB Blackberry Playbook for £129. It's an absolute bargain at that price.
I've had a little mess with it and it seems to be a cracking little tablet.
My lad bought one of them as he couldn't afford the ipad,have to say its a nice bit of kit,not that well served with apps but he's not worried about that :y
They're great for kids. The one I bought is for my 10-year-old daughter as one of her Christmas presents.
Martian seems to think Bluetooth is everything. There's a hundred ways to get a picture from device to device without it. "What's App" works cross-platform. (Meaning Android to iOS or vice-versa.) But, that's not the reason to not get the kid an iPad... she's NINE!!! chrisgixer, if omegod was talking about his 14/15-year-old daughter then I'd say iPad too...
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PC World are doing the 64GB Blackberry Playbook for £129. It's an absolute bargain at that price.
I've had a little mess with it and it seems to be a cracking little tablet.
sorry but those things are just total shite, crap to use. Poor interface, its frustrating to use there are no apps for it. Pay more and avoid that piece of crap.
I'd look at Nexus 7 or iPad
If it was for me yeah. It's for my 10-year-old. She uses FB and YT. End of.
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PC World are doing the 64GB Blackberry Playbook for £129. It's an absolute bargain at that price.
I've had a little mess with it and it seems to be a cracking little tablet.
sorry but those things are just total shite, crap to use. Poor interface, its frustrating to use there are no apps for it. Pay more and avoid that piece of crap.
I'd look at Nexus 7 or iPad
odd you should say that Tunnie,I find the lads tablet quite nice to use and seems to change pages smoothly and quickly when browsing ???
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PC World are doing the 64GB Blackberry Playbook for £129. It's an absolute bargain at that price.
I've had a little mess with it and it seems to be a cracking little tablet.
sorry but those things are just total shite, crap to use. Poor interface, its frustrating to use there are no apps for it. Pay more and avoid that piece of crap.
I'd look at Nexus 7 or iPad
odd you should say that Tunnie,I find the lads tablet quite nice to use and seems to change pages smoothly and quickly when browsing ???
It's 1GB of RAM and 64GB drive is enough for any kid. It will be used as a toy, a few games and YT/FB in bed etc. She has a netbook and iPod. I point blank refuse to spend iPad money on my kid(s) so it can get used as a coaster and take a few trips down the stairs. Be realistic.
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Martian seems to think Bluetooth is everything. There's a hundred ways to get a picture from device to device without it. "What's App" works cross-platform. (Meaning Android to iOS or vice-versa.) But, that's not the reason to not get the kid an iPad... she's NINE!!! chrisgixer, if omegod was talking about his 14/15-year-old daughter then I'd say iPad too...
I don't think that BT is everything, that's just one example of the numerous ways that Apple have constricted their users in doing something that they have paid for, and why on earth should people go to the trouble of trying to find a cross platform app when BT works by sending raw data in a format that any device can handle?
If the OP wants an iPad I'm sure he'll buy one, but I base where my money goes on more than just having a brand name.
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I don't think that BT is everything, that's just one example of the numerous ways that Apple have constricted their users in doing something that they have paid for, and why on earth should people go to the trouble of trying to find a cross platform app when BT works by sending raw data in a format that any device can handle?
If the OP wants an iPad I'm sure he'll buy one, but I base where my money goes on more than just having a brand name.
Yes, it would be absolutely great to have an SD card slot, or some USB ports, or file sharing over your LAN so you can just move your data on a memory stick, or take the card from your camera and plug it in. The fact is that crApple want all their iTard followers to be locked into using their products, so any technology that allows you to move your data onto a competing platform without using a fair bit of initiative (well, a very modest amount, really, the barrier doesn't have to be that high ;D ) is verboten. ::)
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And what's the range of Bluetooth? You need to be in the same house for crying out loud. "Got a pic to show you, mate. I'll wait til you're here Friday"
And just so you know, the only thing Apple I own is my phone. Just so I'm not labelled as an "iTard crApple follower" ::)
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And what's the range of Bluetooth? You need to be in the same house for crying out loud. "Got a pic to show you, mate. I'll wait til you're here Friday"
And just so you know, the only thing Apple I own is my phone. Just so I'm not labelled as an "iTard crApple follower" ::)
A lot longer than a USB cable that you can't use to transfer the pic either, that's for sure.
It's not just about the BT, there are a whole host of features that are standard on pretty much every other platform that make life quite easy (which I always thought was meant to be one of Apple's main selling points anyway) for the end user, yet Apple choose to dictate what the end user can do with the hardware that they have paid for and their customers seem to be daft enough to tolerate it.
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Well you obviously need Bluetooth a lot of the time. I've never needed it and never will. If something needs transferring while I'm at home there's a marvellous invention called wifi.
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Well you obviously need Bluetooth a lot of the time. I've never needed it and never will. If something needs transferring while I'm at home there's a marvellous invention called wifi.
You can explore your iPhone's file system on another device (PC or phone) using Wi-Fi?
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Well you obviously need Bluetooth a lot of the time. I've never needed it and never will. If something needs transferring while I'm at home there's a marvellous invention called wifi.
You can explore your iPhone's file system on another device (PC or phone) using Wi-Fi?
Why on earth would I need to do that?
If for some absurd reason I needed to a simple jailbreak would suffice.
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Well you obviously need Bluetooth a lot of the time. I've never needed it and never will. If something needs transferring while I'm at home there's a marvellous invention called wifi.
You can explore your iPhone's file system on another device (PC or phone) using Wi-Fi?
Why on earth would I need to do that?
Erm, to copy data (pics or otherwise) to & from the handset?
If for some absurd reason I needed to a simple jailbreak would suffice.
That was my whole point, why do you need to do anything to carry out such a simple task of copying a file in the first place?
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When I had my iPhone I would SSH to it to copy pictures and other files to and from it, but of course you need to jailbreak it for that. Least with Android you don't have to do that.
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I can sync and do a lot more via wifi since iOS 6 update :)
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That was my whole point, why do you need to do anything to carry out such a simple task of copying a file in the first place?
I think the problem we are having is that we expect to be buying a computer, and therefore expect it to do things a normal computer will do. iDevices are appliances for doing a limited range of things defined by the manufacturer. More than that, you're paying for it to have been designed to stop you doing things that you might want to do. I have a problem with buying computers like that. For others, it might be acceptable.
You wouldn't worry if your toaster wouldn't iron your shirts, after all.
Actually, that's a bad analogy.
If a toaster only did toast the way a bloke in silicon valley liked it (a deceased bloke with a wardrobe full of black polo necks, for example) you'd have one group of people who'd decide (having paid a lot of money for a toaster without realising it didn't have a dial on it ::)) that it made the best toast in the world, and who wants all the complexity of turning the dial to select how you want your toast done?
Another group of people would take it apart and adjust the timer to make toast how they liked it.
Yet another group of people would just buy a toaster with a dial on it in the first place, and realise what a bargain they got by not having to pay someone to remove the dial.
;)
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What happens is, a company storms the market with an almost unbelievable toaster. Within a few years every Tom, Dick and Harry company follows suit, only trying to add a little extra...
One day a Korean company will launch a toaster so alike to the original, they'll end up having a court dispute resulting in them paying the creators of the original toaster £hundreds of millions... Oh wait...
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What happens is, a company storms the market with an almost unbelievable toaster. Within a few years every Tom, Dick and Harry company follows suit, only trying to add a little extra...
One day a Korean company will launch a toaster so alike to the original, they'll end up having a court dispute resulting in them paying the creators of the original toaster £hundreds of millions... Oh wait...
You obviously think this is a Samsung S3 vs iPhone 5 discussion, but it's not just the Galaxy range of handsets that offer better functionality....all the other mobile platforms do as well because they don't have anywhere near the restrictions that iOS does.
I fail to see what bearing the lawsuit debacle offers, especially as Apple have also copied Samsung's technology in the past and been successfully sued for it.
I also believe Apple were forced to publically apologise recently after they falsely accused Samsung of copying the iPad, so it's swings & roundabouts.
If people want to mess about trying to transfer a video/pic/whatever from their phone to (say) their friends USB stick then good luck to them, but I find it makes life much easier when you can simply plug that USB stick directly in to the phone and copy whatever you like in a few seconds.
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I keep looking at 'pads' but the question is, what do you really use it for.
For me its possibly a bit of browsing, photos, occasional movie, the odd basic game, certainly not music, its much to large a device for that (given that a phoe is smaller and just as capable) and when you look at cost/functionality then the ipad comes out quite low down the list. My biggest concern is the life of the things as I tend to keep laptops etc going for upto 10 years and in that time you have to replace batteries so I need something that is also serviceable.
It will be interesting to see how good the kindle fire is (I suspect a bit below par)
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For me, when I was looking for a small lap top, I ended up going for an iPad. Although there was no competition at the time.
Why? Start up times where way too long on a lappy, and the heat the bloody things kick out is unacceptable IMO.
So iPad it was.
Convenience basickly. Basic browsing, music while browsing sometimes, the odd film on holiday. Pdf's :-X for the car.
Its arguable I could do with a proper lap top with a com port* for diags, but couldn't justify the cost of both. For me, lack of heat and quicker start up times where more important, especially given the time I spend on here.
iPad is so easy and convenient to use. Even with the lack of flash, and re loading a page with half written posts for no reason at all. Pufff, another half written post lost in the eather. >:(
*Although I guess a USB covers most lap top diags these day?
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The issue for me is that I find entering even the small amounts of text required when browsing extremely tedious without a proper keyboard. It'd have to be an Asus transformer or similar.
So I paid less for a fully functional PC - a Netbook. :y
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It will be interesting to see how good the kindle fire is (I suspect a bit below par)
I've read a few comparisons on the Kindle Fire HD vs Nexus 7, and the Nexus wins overall (although not by much).
I think the Kindle's main two drawbacks are that the OS is pretty much locked down application wise, and the Kindle doesn't seem to have half the hardware the Nexus does (eg, GPS).
The missus is going out to compare both today as she does like a book or 2000, but so far (at least on paper) it looks like she'll be getting a Nexus.
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*Although I guess a USB covers most lap top diags these day?
Diags can be done on a mobile phone using (dare I say it) Bluetooth ;D
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I keep looking at 'pads' but the question is, what do you really use it for.
I was getting an iPad 3 for 1 week in 4 due to on-call reasons, I've now managed to permanently acquire one as we found we missed it so much.
We find it so handy while on sofa or away to have something that's instantly available to browse, no boot time, just press a button to surf, be it me on OOF, MrsT on shopping sites ::)
Also use it a lot for maps, checking where we need to go, tube planning, what I'm looking to buy currently (was browsing i5 bundles last night)
Even though I've nabbed one from work, we fight over it, so we are going to buy our own as well ;D
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Thats the issue, is does nothing better than the considerably cheaper options for what I would use one for.
That and the 'throw away after a few years becasue the battery is goosed' technology is a big downer for me.
Bottom line is I want a tool which meets the requirements.....although I still dont know which one to get! ;D ;D
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What happens is, a company storms the market with an almost unbelievable toaster. Within a few years every Tom, Dick and Harry company follows suit, only trying to add a little extra...
One day a Korean company will launch a toaster so alike to the original, they'll end up having a court dispute resulting in them paying the creators of the original toaster £hundreds of millions... Oh wait...
You obviously think this is a Samsung S3 vs iPhone 5 discussion, but it's not just the Galaxy range of handsets that offer better functionality....all the other mobile platforms do as well because they don't have anywhere near the restrictions that iOS does.
I fail to see what bearing the lawsuit debacle offers, especially as Apple have also copied Samsung's technology in the past and been successfully sued for it.
I also believe Apple were forced to publically apologise recently after they falsely accused Samsung of copying the iPad, so it's swings & roundabouts.
If people want to mess about trying to transfer a video/pic/whatever from their phone to (say) their friends USB stick then good luck to them, but I find it makes life much easier when you can simply plug that USB stick directly in to the phone and copy whatever you like in a few seconds.
If you're in range for Bluetooth then why not just hook the thing up with the data cable provided? Bone idleness?
Anyway, this thread got completely derailed. Apologies to the OP.
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Thats the issue, is does nothing better than the considerably cheaper options for what I would use one for.
That and the 'throw away after a few years becasue the battery is goosed' technology is a big downer for me.
Bottom line is I want a tool which meets the requirements.....although I still dont know which one to get! ;D ;D
Having most in the office, I'd have to disagree there. The Xoom2 is a fine example, its well built, has SD card, 3G, everything, its also a 10" tablet, but even with ICS update its still not as "fluid" to use as the pad.
I also find 7" ones too small, also MrsT struggles with anything Android
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OS is no issue for us for what we would use it for, were very 'adaptable' ;D
The bottom line is that if the ipad proves to be the ideal option then its to far outside the price bracket and hence no pad.
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Although if I do need diags on the car, I can use her dell experon, or whatever it's called.
And if I use it outside it won't cook me gonads. :)
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Already have a laptop which is used for the office apps, car diag software etc, cant say I find it gets hot though (warm yes).
The more I look into it the ipad is not an option due to the lack of serviceability and price.
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TB did say the more modern Lappys are better on heat.
Hers is worse on mains power, as the battery is cabbaged, but even when the on battery it ain't great.
Kevs little note book is tempting tbh. But from what I already have, there's no point. Plus I don't have the nouse or interest to cock about adding memory/ram/Linux to make it useable for minimal uptime it will get.
One day maybe.
I am getting board with iOS though. :-\
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What happens is, a company storms the market with an almost unbelievable toaster. Within a few years every Tom, Dick and Harry company follows suit, only trying to add a little extra...
One day a Korean company will launch a toaster so alike to the original, they'll end up having a court dispute resulting in them paying the creators of the original toaster £hundreds of millions... Oh wait...
You obviously think this is a Samsung S3 vs iPhone 5 discussion, but it's not just the Galaxy range of handsets that offer better functionality....all the other mobile platforms do as well because they don't have anywhere near the restrictions that iOS does.
I fail to see what bearing the lawsuit debacle offers, especially as Apple have also copied Samsung's technology in the past and been successfully sued for it.
I also believe Apple were forced to publically apologise recently after they falsely accused Samsung of copying the iPad, so it's swings & roundabouts.
If people want to mess about trying to transfer a video/pic/whatever from their phone to (say) their friends USB stick then good luck to them, but I find it makes life much easier when you can simply plug that USB stick directly in to the phone and copy whatever you like in a few seconds.
If you're in range for Bluetooth then why not just hook the thing up with the data cable provided? Bone idleness?
So I'm in the pub (or wherever), take a pic or a video, then an iPhone user decides they would like a copy.
Now aside from the fact I don't carry a USB data cable everywhere (not that I can connect to an iOS device using it anyway), that's where BT holds it's own.
Yes I know I can use 3rd party apps such as WhatsApp, but even ignoring the paltry (3MB) filesize limit, that method of transfer still eats in to the 3G data limit.
Simple fact of the matter is that Apple have no reason whatsoever for castrating hardware, but if Apple users want to take it up the ar$e then I have no problem with them being relieved of their hard earned just so they can have the latest bit of useless bling.
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A single image is no biggy. Multiple images, it falls on its arse...
And besides, no crApple owner would be seen dead with any Android chav! :P. ;D
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A single image is no biggy. Multiple images, it falls on its arse...
Tried transferring a single image to my mates 4s, no go.
The 4s didn't even bother to alert him of an intended incoming connection, and the Droid just got the "connection refused" message.
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I didn't intend to start such a heated debate ;D , cheers for all the opinions and I think for what it will be used for something non Crapple related will be up to the job. I know a lot of her mates have the ipad but sense has to prevail where cost is concerned and the omegod pot is not exactly overflowing. So the nexus or kindle fire seem like options, in terms of apps which would have more availability??
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Nexus :y
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I keep looking at 'pads' but the question is, what do you really use it for.
For me its possibly a bit of browsing, photos, occasional movie, the odd basic game, certainly not music, its much to large a device for that (given that a phoe is smaller and just as capable) and when you look at cost/functionality then the ipad comes out quite low down the list. My biggest concern is the life of the things as I tend to keep laptops etc going for upto 10 years and in that time you have to replace batteries so I need something that is also serviceable.
It will be interesting to see how good the kindle fire is (I suspect a bit below par)
Mrs TB and I had a tablet each (as I could get them ridiculously cheap ::)), and it has advantages if you just need to quickly check something on the web, or send an email. Its a bit like using your phone, but is in a more convenient form factor (for home use), as the extra size makes it easier.
I tend to use mine less, as my lappy runs an SSD, so boot-up is fairly quick. Now the battery has been replaced, I tend to use sleep an awful lot more, so its on within about 2s. But if I have powered down the lappy, and have one of those "ah, I meant to check..." moments, the Touchpad comes out.
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Kevs little note book is tempting tbh. But from what I already have, there's no point. Plus I don't have the nouse or interest to cock about adding memory/ram/Linux to make it useable for minimal uptime it will get.
Just use the Windows that comes with it then. No "cocking about" ;)
I use a Netbook when I go anywhere. Thats got an SSD and a new battery as well, so is now very usable for virtually instant on, although if you're not using it for days and days, ideally needs shutting down properly... ...or charging at some point.
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Kevs little note book is tempting tbh. But from what I already have, there's no point. Plus I don't have the nouse or interest to cock about adding memory/ram/Linux to make it useable for minimal uptime it will get.
Just use the Windows that comes with it then. No "cocking about" ;)
.. just quite a bit of waiting around.. ;)
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I was playing with an Acer (YUK!) full x86 tablet today, as we were slapping Win8 on it (came with Win7). I was quite impressed with it (and its hard for me to praise Acer). Obviously being a full x86, it had the Windows Desktop as well as whatever Metro is called this week.
Resume from sleep was the same as any tablet. Restart from a power down was about 5-7s, very, very impressive (an iPad is about 2 minutes). I must be honest, its the first time I've used Win8 on a tablet, and its definately a viable option. Very viable.
And because it is a full x86 machine, it can run the same stuff as my laptop can, and has all the usual USB, SD etc...
...downsides are its definately heavier than the newer iPads, and a lot thicker... ...and impossible to upgrade or fix as per MDTMs comments.
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Kevs little note book is tempting tbh. But from what I already have, there's no point. Plus I don't have the nouse or interest to cock about adding memory/ram/Linux to make it useable for minimal uptime it will get.
Just use the Windows that comes with it then. No "cocking about" ;)
.. just quite a bit of waiting around.. ;)
Why? Windows 7 outperforms and modern Linux running X.
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A single image is no biggy. Multiple images, it falls on its arse...
Tried transferring a single image to my mates 4s, no go.
The 4s didn't even bother to alert him of an intended incoming connection, and the Droid just got the "connection refused" message.
well if you got a decent bloody phone you could use iMessage. :D ;)
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I can see i'mnot going to win any lap top arguments with you lot, obviously.
But at the time, whatever windows was available on the nearest net book on display next to the iPad, it took 3.5mins to start up. On the iPad it just turned on, and I was on the web, brouser a bit, buggered about with apps. And the windows machine was still booting. Rrrrrubbish.
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The issue for me is that I find entering even the small amounts of text required when browsing extremely tedious without a proper keyboard. It'd have to be an Asus transformer or similar.
So I paid less for a fully functional PC - a Netbook. :y
Just buy a bluetooth keyboard - I've a MS wireless entertainment keyboard 3000 which even has a built in trackpad! and works flawlessly with the samsung galaxy tab.
Ideal for citrix receiver to connect to a remote server
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A single image is no biggy. Multiple images, it falls on its arse...
Tried transferring a single image to my mates 4s, no go.
The 4s didn't even bother to alert him of an intended incoming connection, and the Droid just got the "connection refused" message.
well if you got a decent bloody phone you could use iMessage. :D ;)
I disable iMessage on mine. It has no use in life, and I'm naturally distrusting of Apple
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I can see i'mnot going to win any lap top arguments with you lot, obviously.
But at the time, whatever windows was available on the nearest net book on display next to the iPad, it took 3.5mins to start up. On the iPad it just turned on, and I was on the web, brouser a bit, buggered about with apps. And the windows machine was still booting. Rrrrrubbish.
You're not really comparing like with like. From poweroff, how long does your gaypad take to boot? ;)
I've just brought my laptop out of sleep, 2s - not as quick as my tablet, but perfectly acceptable. And more capable and usable as well. Oh, and it has a Bluetooth stack that even Martian would be happy with ;D
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They where all off. All of em, including the iPad.
Bloody windows fan boy, assumes the crApple is on stand by. Sigh...
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They where all off. All of em, including the iPad.
Bloody windows fan boy, assumes the crApple is on stand by. Sigh...
The iPad is on standby.
Do me a favour - press and hold power button for 3s, then swipe to power off. Then power back up, timing it.
Ta.
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Nope, it was off. NOT on stand bye.
...are you in the Pub?
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Nope, it was off. NOT on stand bye.
...are you in the Pub?
Are you going to answer the question?
2 minutes?
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35 seconds!
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Just done my iPad 3, around 30 seconds too from cold boot.
iPad 4 should be even quicker :D
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And that included getting on here , but not posting, as I cocked that up. ;D
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My Netbook, just tried.
28s to Windows desktop
38s to IE opening, and allowing me to enter url
My laptop is faster than my netbook, obviously.
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Just done my iPad 3, around 30 seconds too from cold boot.
iPad 4 should be even quicker :D
mines an iPad 1. :)
I used to know an i.t. guy. He used to blame me, as when I walked into the room and he was anywhere near a computer, it would crash,fail,hang, and generally play up. I even believed him.
Until one of his colleagues told me he has agro ALL the time. Nout to do with me.
Is TB the same? ;D
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BTW, not knocking gayPads, they are good devices for "just working". Saying that, I'm fixing her gayPhone, as Draw Something keeps crashing ;D
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My Netbook, just tried.
28s to Windows desktop
38s to IE opening, and allowing me to enter url
My laptop is faster than my netbook, obviously.
but your not comparing like with like J. That spec wasn't available when I got my iPad. Must be two years ago...?
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26 seconds actually. ;)
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My Netbook, just tried.
28s to Windows desktop
38s to IE opening, and allowing me to enter url
My laptop is faster than my netbook, obviously.
but your not comparing like with like J. That spec wasn't available when I got my iPad. Must be two years ago...?
I'd hope 2yr old netbooks would be quicker than my old crusty one.
I agree a tablet still will boot faster, but the point I was making, there is not that much in it. Even now, I still struggle with on screen keyboards.
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26 seconds actually. ;)
I wish my iphone would boot that fast ;D