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Title: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: omega3000 on 04 December 2012, 21:43:31
Is this a good deal  :-\ Smokeless Fuel (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=smokeless%20fuel&source=productsearch&cd=1&cad=rja&docid=11473242217643353525&ved=0CF4QgwgwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.firewoodandlogs.co.uk%2Fproduct_info.php%3FcPath%3D32%26products_id%3D164&ei=kGy-UPn5Eam90QXztIDAAQ&usg=AFQjCNGuXbUuSrsugPlAUyI57X3LDtvs1A)

Only thinking of using it on an open fire in the evenings so want it to last a fair bit ... and its local to me so i could pick up and save delivery costs .
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: tidla on 04 December 2012, 21:46:37
Im sure local delivery by a traditional coalman would be cheaper if your spending that much. just need a cheap bunker to dump it in.
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: Vamps on 04 December 2012, 22:01:06
Im sure local delivery by a traditional coalman would be cheaper if your spending that much. just need a cheap bunker to dump it in.

No idea on the price of coal these days, our coal bunker is used as a compost bin...... :D :D
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: ozzycat on 04 December 2012, 22:16:29
steve that is very exsoensive you can get it cheeper than that mate
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: omega3000 on 04 December 2012, 22:21:44
steve that is very exsoensive you can get it cheeper than that mate

I thought it mite be kev , but individual bags at £12 each  :( not seen a coal van around these parts since i was a nipper  ;D but guess they are still around  :-\
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 04 December 2012, 22:22:37
charcoal is good for heat but ...
 
in windy days it can be dangerous.. especially if the chimney dont work as expected.. :-\
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: ozzycat on 04 December 2012, 22:36:36
steve that is very exsoensive you can get it cheeper than that mate

I thought it mite be kev , but individual bags at £12 each  :( not seen a coal van around these parts since i was a nipper  ;D but guess they are still around  :-\
try yellow pages or google in your local area
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 December 2012, 22:43:13
I think my neighbour pays around £90 for a large trailer of logs if that helps...  :-\
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: omega3000 on 04 December 2012, 22:59:59
I think my neighbour pays around £90 for a large trailer of logs if that helps...  :-\
Thanks for that ..
I dont know about the wood side , but it has to be smokeless  :y
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: the alarming man on 04 December 2012, 23:02:47
don't laugh but it is calor gas that delivers coal around here... :y
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: ozzycat on 04 December 2012, 23:04:46
don't laugh but it is calor gas that delivers coal around here... :y
yes they do around here aswell :y :y
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: omega3000 on 04 December 2012, 23:12:33
don't laugh but it is calor gas that delivers coal around here... :y

I have seen them with the bottles on the lorries around here so they must deliver coal as well , ozzycat just told me B&Q sell it too  :y
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: the alarming man on 04 December 2012, 23:14:42
yes but has to be a warehouse :y
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: mantahatch on 05 December 2012, 07:41:32
I think my neighbour pays around £90 for a large trailer of logs if that helps...  :-\

Then he has more money than sense.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 December 2012, 09:11:39
As a guide, we pay around 180-190 a ton for quality steam coal.
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: omega3000 on 05 December 2012, 09:18:53
Amazes me how they get coal thats smokeless  ;D

As a guide, we pay around 180-190 a ton for quality steam coal.

Trying to think how long a ton load would last  :-\ I would have to have it delivered in bags and stored in bags on a pallet or something ...
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 December 2012, 09:41:00
Amazes me how they get coal thats smokeless  ;D

As a guide, we pay around 180-190 a ton for quality steam coal.

Trying to think how long a ton load would last  :-\ I would have to have it delivered in bags and stored in bags on a pallet or something ...

normally 1 ton is enough for 3 months in our winter.. assuming you only use 1 stove..
 
but you will need logs to burn it..  in any case you will smoke ;D
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: omega3000 on 05 December 2012, 09:44:14
Amazes me how they get coal thats smokeless  ;D

As a guide, we pay around 180-190 a ton for quality steam coal.

Trying to think how long a ton load would last  :-\ I would have to have it delivered in bags and stored in bags on a pallet or something ...

normally 1 ton is enough for 3 months in our winter.. assuming you only use 1 stove..
 
but you will need logs to burn it..  in any case you will smoke ;D

 :-\ do you mean to start it cem ?
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 December 2012, 09:46:24
Amazes me how they get coal thats smokeless  ;D

As a guide, we pay around 180-190 a ton for quality steam coal.

Trying to think how long a ton load would last  :-\ I would have to have it delivered in bags and stored in bags on a pallet or something ...

normally 1 ton is enough for 3 months in our winter.. assuming you only use 1 stove..
 
but you will need logs to burn it..  in any case you will smoke ;D

 :-\ do you mean to start it cem ?

yep.. otherwise how you will start the fire.. few newspapers wont be enough to start fire on 6-7 kgs of coal..
 
or acetylene torch ;D
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 December 2012, 09:49:42
when I was a child my father every morning was preparing the stove then go job..  :)
 
there was no natural gas around..
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: omega3000 on 05 December 2012, 09:51:07
 :y

When i had my last coal fire im sure i used a few bits of kindling and rolled up pieces of paper to start it , although there are fire starter bricks like the ones you use on bbq's   :)
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 December 2012, 09:52:59
this would be easier
http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.akildakal.com/images_buyuk/f40/Asroyal-R32-Radyo-Tuplu-Soba-Sto_3640_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.akildakal.com/Asroyal-R42-Radyan-Tuplu-Soba-Stoktan-Hemen-Gonderi-ucretsiz-Kargo-_3640.html&h=443&w=289&sz=40&tbnid=WFYEZB8FwJOCpM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=59&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dt%25C3%25BCpl%25C3%25BC%2Bsoba%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=t%C3%BCpl%C3%BC+soba&usg=__e2ME7ps2eXZH1FtURm-ppssBvqo=&docid=qgcbK6PSFZEGbM&hl=tr&sa=X&ei=5hi_UIflHJSyhAeQ3IG4Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQ9QEwBA&dur=437 (http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.akildakal.com/images_buyuk/f40/Asroyal-R32-Radyo-Tuplu-Soba-Sto_3640_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.akildakal.com/Asroyal-R42-Radyan-Tuplu-Soba-Stoktan-Hemen-Gonderi-ucretsiz-Kargo-_3640.html&h=443&w=289&sz=40&tbnid=WFYEZB8FwJOCpM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=59&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dt%25C3%25BCpl%25C3%25BC%2Bsoba%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=t%C3%BCpl%C3%BC+soba&usg=__e2ME7ps2eXZH1FtURm-ppssBvqo=&docid=qgcbK6PSFZEGbM&hl=tr&sa=X&ei=5hi_UIflHJSyhAeQ3IG4Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQ9QEwBA&dur=437)
 
if you can find this
http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?q=t%C3%BCp&um=1&hl=tr&safe=active&sa=N&tbo=d&rlz=1R2NDKB_enTR510&biw=980&bih=650&tbm=isch&tbnid=wSJshXvHoyx0TM:&imgrefurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/tup-gaz.html&docid=ieCvrr_Ukx4LhM&imgurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/t%2525C3%2525BCp.jpg&w=218&h=300&ei=Qhm_UL3oEsXMhAfdj4CIDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=125&vpy=102&dur=953&hovh=240&hovw=174&tx=120&ty=140&sig=114075735259467314363&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=103&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:85 (http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?q=t%C3%BCp&um=1&hl=tr&safe=active&sa=N&tbo=d&rlz=1R2NDKB_enTR510&biw=980&bih=650&tbm=isch&tbnid=wSJshXvHoyx0TM:&imgrefurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/tup-gaz.html&docid=ieCvrr_Ukx4LhM&imgurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/t%2525C3%2525BCp.jpg&w=218&h=300&ei=Qhm_UL3oEsXMhAfdj4CIDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=125&vpy=102&dur=953&hovh=240&hovw=174&tx=120&ty=140&sig=114075735259467314363&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=103&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:85)
 
I still use it in addition to boiler :)
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 December 2012, 09:55:20
:y

When i had my last coal fire im sure i used a few bits of kindling and rolled up pieces of paper to start it , although there are fire starter bricks like the ones you use on bbq's   :)

EMD coal fire is a trouble.. you need to prepare it.. then clean it.. lpg stoves are easier and cheaper imho.. :y
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: omega3000 on 05 December 2012, 10:10:41
 Not sure about the running cost of those gas heaters , will look into it  :)
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 December 2012, 10:59:33
Not sure about the running cost of those gas heaters , will look into it  :)

here lpg is very cheap compared to natural gas..  and is more efficient..  dont know may be the idiots here pump air from the natural gas line >:(   whenever temperatures drop boiler hardly burns this gas.. or russian comrades and iranian mullahs selling us crap.. :(
 
anyway back to subject, lpg stoves are efficient.. they heat the room quickly and you dont pay an arm and a leg.. the only drawback is it finishes the oxygen after a while..  but cheaper than electricity and natural gas..
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 05 December 2012, 18:08:38
I have flueless gas stove, similar to one of these....

http://www.directstoves.com/stoves-direct/gas-stoves/flueless-stoves/ppc_flueless?gclid=CP_Z_ZHtg7QCFbMbtAodU1EA7A

Very efficient...about 95% iirc.....but the cat inside it is supposedly only good for ten years
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 December 2012, 18:15:20
I have flueless gas stove, similar to one of these....

http://www.directstoves.com/stoves-direct/gas-stoves/flueless-stoves/ppc_flueless?gclid=CP_Z_ZHtg7QCFbMbtAodU1EA7A (http://www.directstoves.com/stoves-direct/gas-stoves/flueless-stoves/ppc_flueless?gclid=CP_Z_ZHtg7QCFbMbtAodU1EA7A)

Very efficient...about 95% iirc.....but the cat inside it is supposedly only good for ten years

nice .. why those prices for stoves are too expensive ?  ???  an omega 300 £, a stove 600 £ ;D
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: omega3000 on 05 December 2012, 22:58:41
I have flueless gas stove, similar to one of these....

http://www.directstoves.com/stoves-direct/gas-stoves/flueless-stoves/ppc_flueless?gclid=CP_Z_ZHtg7QCFbMbtAodU1EA7A (http://www.directstoves.com/stoves-direct/gas-stoves/flueless-stoves/ppc_flueless?gclid=CP_Z_ZHtg7QCFbMbtAodU1EA7A)

Very efficient...about 95% iirc.....but the cat inside it is supposedly only good for ten years

nice .. why those prices for stoves are too expensive ?  ??? an omega 300 £, a stove 600 £ ;D



Sad when you look at it that way , cars are just becoming throwaway things and soon to be extinct  :(
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 December 2012, 23:14:11
I have flueless gas stove, similar to one of these....

http://www.directstoves.com/stoves-direct/gas-stoves/flueless-stoves/ppc_flueless?gclid=CP_Z_ZHtg7QCFbMbtAodU1EA7A (http://www.directstoves.com/stoves-direct/gas-stoves/flueless-stoves/ppc_flueless?gclid=CP_Z_ZHtg7QCFbMbtAodU1EA7A)

Very efficient...about 95% iirc.....but the cat inside it is supposedly only good for ten years

nice .. why those prices for stoves are too expensive ?  ??? an omega 300 £, a stove 600 £ ;D



Sad when you look at it that way , cars are just becoming throwaway things and soon to be extinct  :(

we dont throw them away easily :) :y
 
ps: mine will see a new paint in spring and will be in use for long time.. :y
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: Vamps on 05 December 2012, 23:45:36
this would be easier
http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.akildakal.com/images_buyuk/f40/Asroyal-R32-Radyo-Tuplu-Soba-Sto_3640_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.akildakal.com/Asroyal-R42-Radyan-Tuplu-Soba-Stoktan-Hemen-Gonderi-ucretsiz-Kargo-_3640.html&h=443&w=289&sz=40&tbnid=WFYEZB8FwJOCpM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=59&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dt%25C3%25BCpl%25C3%25BC%2Bsoba%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=t%C3%BCpl%C3%BC+soba&usg=__e2ME7ps2eXZH1FtURm-ppssBvqo=&docid=qgcbK6PSFZEGbM&hl=tr&sa=X&ei=5hi_UIflHJSyhAeQ3IG4Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQ9QEwBA&dur=437 (http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.akildakal.com/images_buyuk/f40/Asroyal-R32-Radyo-Tuplu-Soba-Sto_3640_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.akildakal.com/Asroyal-R42-Radyan-Tuplu-Soba-Stoktan-Hemen-Gonderi-ucretsiz-Kargo-_3640.html&h=443&w=289&sz=40&tbnid=WFYEZB8FwJOCpM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=59&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dt%25C3%25BCpl%25C3%25BC%2Bsoba%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=t%C3%BCpl%C3%BC+soba&usg=__e2ME7ps2eXZH1FtURm-ppssBvqo=&docid=qgcbK6PSFZEGbM&hl=tr&sa=X&ei=5hi_UIflHJSyhAeQ3IG4Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQ9QEwBA&dur=437)
 
if you can find this
http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?q=t%C3%BCp&um=1&hl=tr&safe=active&sa=N&tbo=d&rlz=1R2NDKB_enTR510&biw=980&bih=650&tbm=isch&tbnid=wSJshXvHoyx0TM:&imgrefurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/tup-gaz.html&docid=ieCvrr_Ukx4LhM&imgurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/t%2525C3%2525BCp.jpg&w=218&h=300&ei=Qhm_UL3oEsXMhAfdj4CIDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=125&vpy=102&dur=953&hovh=240&hovw=174&tx=120&ty=140&sig=114075735259467314363&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=103&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:85 (http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?q=t%C3%BCp&um=1&hl=tr&safe=active&sa=N&tbo=d&rlz=1R2NDKB_enTR510&biw=980&bih=650&tbm=isch&tbnid=wSJshXvHoyx0TM:&imgrefurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/tup-gaz.html&docid=ieCvrr_Ukx4LhM&imgurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/t%2525C3%2525BCp.jpg&w=218&h=300&ei=Qhm_UL3oEsXMhAfdj4CIDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=125&vpy=102&dur=953&hovh=240&hovw=174&tx=120&ty=140&sig=114075735259467314363&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=103&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:85)
 
I still use it in addition to boiler :)

In this country they are very expensive to run compared to any other fuel / heater, I had a one many many years ago, but they are conveiniant and easy to use and of course, portable.... :y :y
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: OmegaAnglesey on 05 December 2012, 23:49:13
Amazes me how they get coal thats smokeless  ;D

As a guide, we pay around 180-190 a ton for quality steam coal.

Trying to think how long a ton load would last  :-\ I would have to have it delivered in bags and stored in bags on a pallet or something ...

normally 1 ton is enough for 3 months in our winter.. assuming you only use 1 stove..
 
but you will need logs to burn it..  in any case you will smoke ;D

 :-\ do you mean to start it cem ?

yep.. otherwise how you will start the fire.. few newspapers wont be enough to start fire on 6-7 kgs of coal..
 
or acetylene torch ;D
Use fire-lighters  ::)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/60-Drummer-Compact-Firelighters-Real-Fires-Stoves-BBQs-/230889105646?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Other_Fireplaces&hash=item35c21028ee
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 December 2012, 23:52:34
this would be easier
http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.akildakal.com/images_buyuk/f40/Asroyal-R32-Radyo-Tuplu-Soba-Sto_3640_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.akildakal.com/Asroyal-R42-Radyan-Tuplu-Soba-Stoktan-Hemen-Gonderi-ucretsiz-Kargo-_3640.html&h=443&w=289&sz=40&tbnid=WFYEZB8FwJOCpM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=59&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dt%25C3%25BCpl%25C3%25BC%2Bsoba%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=t%C3%BCpl%C3%BC+soba&usg=__e2ME7ps2eXZH1FtURm-ppssBvqo=&docid=qgcbK6PSFZEGbM&hl=tr&sa=X&ei=5hi_UIflHJSyhAeQ3IG4Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQ9QEwBA&dur=437 (http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.akildakal.com/images_buyuk/f40/Asroyal-R32-Radyo-Tuplu-Soba-Sto_3640_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.akildakal.com/Asroyal-R42-Radyan-Tuplu-Soba-Stoktan-Hemen-Gonderi-ucretsiz-Kargo-_3640.html&h=443&w=289&sz=40&tbnid=WFYEZB8FwJOCpM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=59&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dt%25C3%25BCpl%25C3%25BC%2Bsoba%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=t%C3%BCpl%C3%BC+soba&usg=__e2ME7ps2eXZH1FtURm-ppssBvqo=&docid=qgcbK6PSFZEGbM&hl=tr&sa=X&ei=5hi_UIflHJSyhAeQ3IG4Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQ9QEwBA&dur=437)
 
if you can find this
http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?q=t%C3%BCp&um=1&hl=tr&safe=active&sa=N&tbo=d&rlz=1R2NDKB_enTR510&biw=980&bih=650&tbm=isch&tbnid=wSJshXvHoyx0TM:&imgrefurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/tup-gaz.html&docid=ieCvrr_Ukx4LhM&imgurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/t%2525C3%2525BCp.jpg&w=218&h=300&ei=Qhm_UL3oEsXMhAfdj4CIDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=125&vpy=102&dur=953&hovh=240&hovw=174&tx=120&ty=140&sig=114075735259467314363&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=103&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:85 (http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?q=t%C3%BCp&um=1&hl=tr&safe=active&sa=N&tbo=d&rlz=1R2NDKB_enTR510&biw=980&bih=650&tbm=isch&tbnid=wSJshXvHoyx0TM:&imgrefurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/tup-gaz.html&docid=ieCvrr_Ukx4LhM&imgurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/t%2525C3%2525BCp.jpg&w=218&h=300&ei=Qhm_UL3oEsXMhAfdj4CIDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=125&vpy=102&dur=953&hovh=240&hovw=174&tx=120&ty=140&sig=114075735259467314363&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=103&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:85)
 
I still use it in addition to boiler :)

In this country they are very expensive to run compared to any other fuel / heater, I had a one many many years ago, but they are conveiniant and easy to use and of course, portable.... :y :y

Yep.. Bottled gas isn't really significantly different in running costs to an electric heater here, watt for watt, except with an electric heater you get all the heat you buy whereas with LPG it depends how efficiently you are burning it.
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 December 2012, 23:56:46
These work quite well for starting a coal fire.  :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GAS-POKER-FIRE-AND-BBQ-LIGHTER-CARTRIDGE-TYPE-/160921707716?pt=UK_Home_Garden_BBQ_Utensils_Accessories_LE&hash=item2577ae64c4
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: Vamps on 06 December 2012, 00:03:49
These work quite well for starting a coal fire.  :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GAS-POKER-FIRE-AND-BBQ-LIGHTER-CARTRIDGE-TYPE-/160921707716?pt=UK_Home_Garden_BBQ_Utensils_Accessories_LE&hash=item2577ae64c4

That takes me back to the 60's, grandmothers house and they had a poker plumed into the mains gas, all ready to go........... :y :y

For coal fires, twisted paper and a few sticks, soon gets it going, just wish I still had one.... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: omega3000 on 06 December 2012, 08:36:04
These work quite well for starting a coal fire.  :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GAS-POKER-FIRE-AND-BBQ-LIGHTER-CARTRIDGE-TYPE-/160921707716?pt=UK_Home_Garden_BBQ_Utensils_Accessories_LE&hash=item2577ae64c4

That takes me back to the 60's, grandmothers house and they had a poker plumed into the mains gas, all ready to go........... :y :y

For coal fires, twisted paper and a few sticks, soon gets it going, just wish I still had one.... ::) ::)



Yep me too , times are a changing back to how they use to be years ago . Luckily its just a case of taking a few bricks out my chimney then just buying the coal basket , job done . Hopefully swmbo wont notice the big hole in the wall  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: Lazydocker on 06 December 2012, 08:45:12
These work quite well for starting a coal fire.  :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GAS-POKER-FIRE-AND-BBQ-LIGHTER-CARTRIDGE-TYPE-/160921707716?pt=UK_Home_Garden_BBQ_Utensils_Accessories_LE&hash=item2577ae64c4

That takes me back to the 60's, grandmothers house and they had a poker plumed into the mains gas, all ready to go........... :y :y

For coal fires, twisted paper and a few sticks, soon gets it going, just wish I still had one.... ::) ::)



Yep me too , times are a changing back to how they use to be years ago . Luckily its just a case of taking a few bricks out my chimney then just buying the coal basket , job done . Hopefully swmbo wont notice the big hole in the wall  ::) ;D

Don't forget to get the chimney swept and smoke tested if it's been redundant for a while ;)
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: dad1uk on 06 December 2012, 08:46:53
Get a price from these and compare........
http://www.coalmerchantsuk.co.uk/?a=northamp&kw=Northampton%20Coal%20Delivery
http://www.one-stop-diy.co.uk/Scripts/coal-northampton-delivery.htm
http://hamsonscoal.co.uk/#
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: omega3000 on 06 December 2012, 08:51:22
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Don't forget to get the chimney swept and smoke tested if it's been redundant for a while

 :y


A lit bit of paper up the chimney will do to check the draw  ;D

Get a price from these and compare........
http://www.coalmerchantsuk.co.uk/?a=northamp&kw=Northampton%20Coal%20Delivery
http://www.one-stop-diy.co.uk/Scripts/coal-northampton-delivery.htm
http://hamsonscoal.co.uk/#

Thanks for those links dad1uk , i will note them down  ;)
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 December 2012, 11:19:01
this would be easier
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if you can find this
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I still use it in addition to boiler :)

In this country they are very expensive to run compared to any other fuel / heater, I had a one many many years ago, but they are convenient and easy to use and of course, portable.... :y :y

yep.. you can heat any room you want ,very quickly..  :y  but bad news its expensive there :-\
Title: Re: Smokeless Fuel
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 December 2012, 11:23:57
this would be easier
http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.akildakal.com/images_buyuk/f40/Asroyal-R32-Radyo-Tuplu-Soba-Sto_3640_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.akildakal.com/Asroyal-R42-Radyan-Tuplu-Soba-Stoktan-Hemen-Gonderi-ucretsiz-Kargo-_3640.html&h=443&w=289&sz=40&tbnid=WFYEZB8FwJOCpM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=59&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dt%25C3%25BCpl%25C3%25BC%2Bsoba%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=t%C3%BCpl%C3%BC+soba&usg=__e2ME7ps2eXZH1FtURm-ppssBvqo=&docid=qgcbK6PSFZEGbM&hl=tr&sa=X&ei=5hi_UIflHJSyhAeQ3IG4Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQ9QEwBA&dur=437 (http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.akildakal.com/images_buyuk/f40/Asroyal-R32-Radyo-Tuplu-Soba-Sto_3640_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.akildakal.com/Asroyal-R42-Radyan-Tuplu-Soba-Stoktan-Hemen-Gonderi-ucretsiz-Kargo-_3640.html&h=443&w=289&sz=40&tbnid=WFYEZB8FwJOCpM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=59&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dt%25C3%25BCpl%25C3%25BC%2Bsoba%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=t%C3%BCpl%C3%BC+soba&usg=__e2ME7ps2eXZH1FtURm-ppssBvqo=&docid=qgcbK6PSFZEGbM&hl=tr&sa=X&ei=5hi_UIflHJSyhAeQ3IG4Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQ9QEwBA&dur=437)
 
if you can find this
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I still use it in addition to boiler :)

In this country they are very expensive to run compared to any other fuel / heater, I had a one many many years ago, but they are conveiniant and easy to use and of course, portable.... :y :y

Yep.. Bottled gas isn't really significantly different in running costs to an electric heater here, watt for watt, except with an electric heater you get all the heat you buy whereas with LPG it depends how efficiently you are burning it.

from the picture may not be visible but it flows through a multiple hole red hot ceramic .. 15 minute is enough to heat a 7x5 meters room  .. :)   I use the boiler nearly at half level.. but if I feel cold I open it ..
 
here electricity become ridiculously expensive after its privatized >:( >:(