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[omega3000]

Amazes me how they get coal thats smokeless 

As a guide, we pay around 180-190 a ton for quality steam coal.

Trying to think how long a ton load would last  I would have to have it delivered in bags and stored in bags on a pallet or something ...

[cem_devecioglu]

Amazes me how they get coal thats smokeless 

As a guide, we pay around 180-190 a ton for quality steam coal.

Trying to think how long a ton load would last  I would have to have it delivered in bags and stored in bags on a pallet or something ...

normally 1 ton is enough for 3 months in our winter.. assuming you only use 1 stove..
 
but you will need logs to burn it..  in any case you will smoke

[omega3000]

Amazes me how they get coal thats smokeless 

As a guide, we pay around 180-190 a ton for quality steam coal.

Trying to think how long a ton load would last  I would have to have it delivered in bags and stored in bags on a pallet or something ...

normally 1 ton is enough for 3 months in our winter.. assuming you only use 1 stove..
 
but you will need logs to burn it..  in any case you will smoke

  do you mean to start it cem ?

[cem_devecioglu]

Amazes me how they get coal thats smokeless 

As a guide, we pay around 180-190 a ton for quality steam coal.

Trying to think how long a ton load would last  I would have to have it delivered in bags and stored in bags on a pallet or something ...

normally 1 ton is enough for 3 months in our winter.. assuming you only use 1 stove..
 
but you will need logs to burn it..  in any case you will smoke

  do you mean to start it cem ?

yep.. otherwise how you will start the fire.. few newspapers wont be enough to start fire on 6-7 kgs of coal..
 
or acetylene torch

[cem_devecioglu]

when I was a child my father every morning was preparing the stove then go job.. 
 
there was no natural gas around..

[omega3000]

 

When i had my last coal fire im sure i used a few bits of kindling and rolled up pieces of paper to start it , although there are fire starter bricks like the ones you use on bbq's   

[cem_devecioglu]

this would be easier
http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.akildakal.com/images_buyuk/f40/Asroyal-R32-Radyo-Tuplu-Soba-Sto_3640_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.akildakal.com/Asroyal-R42-Radyan-Tuplu-Soba-Stoktan-Hemen-Gonderi-ucretsiz-Kargo-_3640.html&h=443&w=289&sz=40&tbnid=WFYEZB8FwJOCpM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=59&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dt%25C3%25BCpl%25C3%25BC%2Bsoba%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=t%C3%BCpl%C3%BC+soba&usg=__e2ME7ps2eXZH1FtURm-ppssBvqo=&docid=qgcbK6PSFZEGbM&hl=tr&sa=X&ei=5hi_UIflHJSyhAeQ3IG4Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQ9QEwBA&dur=437
 
if you can find this
http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?q=t%C3%BCp&um=1&hl=tr&safe=active&sa=N&tbo=d&rlz=1R2NDKB_enTR510&biw=980&bih=650&tbm=isch&tbnid=wSJshXvHoyx0TM:&imgrefurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/tup-gaz.html&docid=ieCvrr_Ukx4LhM&imgurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/t%2525C3%2525BCp.jpg&w=218&h=300&ei=Qhm_UL3oEsXMhAfdj4CIDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=125&vpy=102&dur=953&hovh=240&hovw=174&tx=120&ty=140&sig=114075735259467314363&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=103&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:85
 
I still use it in addition to boiler

[cem_devecioglu]

When i had my last coal fire im sure i used a few bits of kindling and rolled up pieces of paper to start it , although there are fire starter bricks like the ones you use on bbq's   

EMD coal fire is a trouble.. you need to prepare it.. then clean it.. lpg stoves are easier and cheaper imho..

[omega3000]

 Not sure about the running cost of those gas heaters , will look into it 

[cem_devecioglu]

Not sure about the running cost of those gas heaters , will look into it 

here lpg is very cheap compared to natural gas..  and is more efficient..  dont know may be the idiots here pump air from the natural gas line    whenever temperatures drop boiler hardly burns this gas.. or russian comrades and iranian mullahs selling us crap..
 
anyway back to subject, lpg stoves are efficient.. they heat the room quickly and you dont pay an arm and a leg.. the only drawback is it finishes the oxygen after a while..  but cheaper than electricity and natural gas..

[Taxi_Driver]

I have flueless gas stove, similar to one of these....

http://www.directstoves.com/stoves-direct/gas-stoves/flueless-stoves/ppc_flueless?gclid=CP_Z_ZHtg7QCFbMbtAodU1EA7A

Very efficient...about 95% iirc.....but the cat inside it is supposedly only good for ten years

[cem_devecioglu]

I have flueless gas stove, similar to one of these....

http://www.directstoves.com/stoves-direct/gas-stoves/flueless-stoves/ppc_flueless?gclid=CP_Z_ZHtg7QCFbMbtAodU1EA7A

Very efficient...about 95% iirc.....but the cat inside it is supposedly only good for ten years

nice .. why those prices for stoves are too expensive ?    an omega 300 £, a stove 600 £

[omega3000]

I have flueless gas stove, similar to one of these....

http://www.directstoves.com/stoves-direct/gas-stoves/flueless-stoves/ppc_flueless?gclid=CP_Z_ZHtg7QCFbMbtAodU1EA7A

Very efficient...about 95% iirc.....but the cat inside it is supposedly only good for ten years

nice .. why those prices for stoves are too expensive ?  an omega 300 £, a stove 600 £

Sad when you look at it that way , cars are just becoming throwaway things and soon to be extinct 

[cem_devecioglu]

I have flueless gas stove, similar to one of these....

http://www.directstoves.com/stoves-direct/gas-stoves/flueless-stoves/ppc_flueless?gclid=CP_Z_ZHtg7QCFbMbtAodU1EA7A

Very efficient...about 95% iirc.....but the cat inside it is supposedly only good for ten years

nice .. why those prices for stoves are too expensive ?  an omega 300 £, a stove 600 £

Sad when you look at it that way , cars are just becoming throwaway things and soon to be extinct 

we dont throw them away easily
 
ps: mine will see a new paint in spring and will be in use for long time..

[Vamps]

this would be easier
http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.akildakal.com/images_buyuk/f40/Asroyal-R32-Radyo-Tuplu-Soba-Sto_3640_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.akildakal.com/Asroyal-R42-Radyan-Tuplu-Soba-Stoktan-Hemen-Gonderi-ucretsiz-Kargo-_3640.html&h=443&w=289&sz=40&tbnid=WFYEZB8FwJOCpM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=59&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dt%25C3%25BCpl%25C3%25BC%2Bsoba%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=t%C3%BCpl%C3%BC+soba&usg=__e2ME7ps2eXZH1FtURm-ppssBvqo=&docid=qgcbK6PSFZEGbM&hl=tr&sa=X&ei=5hi_UIflHJSyhAeQ3IG4Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQ9QEwBA&dur=437
 
if you can find this
http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?q=t%C3%BCp&um=1&hl=tr&safe=active&sa=N&tbo=d&rlz=1R2NDKB_enTR510&biw=980&bih=650&tbm=isch&tbnid=wSJshXvHoyx0TM:&imgrefurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/tup-gaz.html&docid=ieCvrr_Ukx4LhM&imgurl=http://girnerehberi.net/kibris/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/t%2525C3%2525BCp.jpg&w=218&h=300&ei=Qhm_UL3oEsXMhAfdj4CIDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=125&vpy=102&dur=953&hovh=240&hovw=174&tx=120&ty=140&sig=114075735259467314363&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=103&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:85
 
I still use it in addition to boiler

In this country they are very expensive to run compared to any other fuel / heater, I had a one many many years ago, but they are conveiniant and easy to use and of course, portable....