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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 December 2012, 17:50:45
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Power is reaching the unit and the power light is on.
The pump is working and I can hear the water moving, but the boiler makes absolutely no attempt at ignition....zero.....zilch.....nowt. :-\
The boiler is made by Wallstar and runs on oil. Quite frankly it's never been reliable. In summary, it's a bag of shite. :-\
Any ideas, chaps?.
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Had problems here recently, was low pressure.
Does yours have a pressure gauge?
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Had problems here recently, was low pressure.
Does yours have a pressure gauge?
No, Mr Tunnie. I believe that the Wallstar range of boiler was last updated in 1789.
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Had problems here recently, was low pressure.
Does yours have a pressure gauge?
No, Mr Tunnie. I believe that the Wallstar range of boiler was last updated in 1789.
Ohhhh ;D ;D ;D ;D
I know nothing about boiler systems, mine is combi, but sure standard systems also require good pressure? :-\
Mine was all lit up, but would not spark up either
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May have gone into "lockout" mode. Have you pressed the re-set button?
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Oil fired boilers, Mr Tunnie, are nothing like your system.
IME (limited with oil), either the oil flow has stopped (rust bloking?) or the spray arm s are clogged.
The things are so barbarically simple, there's sod all else to go wrong.
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is there oil in the tank??
try reseting it,when was it last serviced?
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Oil fired boilers, Mr Tunnie, are nothing like your system.
IME (limited with oil), either the oil flow has stopped (rust bloking?) or the spray arm s are clogged.
The things are so barbarically simple, there's sod all else to go wrong.
Unless its that old......thats its either cant get the parts or not worth fixing it, which happened to mate of mine living out in the sticks. He had several 'oil experts' look at it who all told him they couldnt get the parts to fix it. He was getting quotes of about £5k for a replacement boiler, in the end he spent 8k on oil fired range thingy, that does the cooker bit and the central heating and ditched both the old boiler and leccy cooker.
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May have gone into "lockout" mode. Have you pressed the re-set button?
Thanks, Rob. The button turns red ( in the box outside the house) when this happens. At the moment it's as it should be (white) :y.
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is there oil in the tank??
try reseting it,when was it last serviced?
Yes. I have run it out of oil in the past, but even then it tries to ignite, which it is not currently doing. :-[
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we had oil boiler at last house in uk, brilliant! very cheap BUT!!!
every year had to change the filter from the tank (blocks with water!)and the nozzle on the boiler itself, they wear out very quickly other than that had it serviced every 2years and never a problem,it was manufactured in 1985 :D
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Power is reaching the unit and the power light is on.
The pump is working and I can hear the water moving, but the boiler makes absolutely no attempt at ignition....zero.....zilch.....nowt. :-\
The boiler is made by Wallstar and runs on oil. Quite frankly it's never been reliable. In summary, it's a bag of shite. :-\
Any ideas, chaps?.
Do you have a Service/Owners Manual with the Boiler Opti?
I'm not familiar with this particular make, but if no ignition sequence you should check the photocell which is a failsafe device that checks the flame for correct burn characteristics, it can become patially or fully blocked by soot/dirt and then interrupts the ignition circuit.
edit: Also after perusing a few Forums on the subject including the link supplied by Cem, it seems the oil pump is a likely culprit!
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http://www.hrmboilers.co.uk/assets/uploads/products/wallstarmanualNEW_1.pdf (http://www.hrmboilers.co.uk/assets/uploads/products/wallstarmanualNEW_1.pdf)
may be this
http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=107880 (http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=107880)
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Power is reaching the unit and the power light is on.
The pump is working and I can hear the water moving, but the boiler makes absolutely no attempt at ignition....zero.....zilch.....nowt. :-\
The boiler is made by Wallstar and runs on oil. Quite frankly it's never been reliable. In summary, it's a bag of shite. :-\
Any ideas, chaps?.
Do you have a Service/Owners Manual with the Boiler Opti?
I'm not familiar with this particular make, but if no ignition sequence you should check the photocell which is a failsafe device that checks the flame for correct burn characteristics, it can become patially or fully blocked by soot/dirt and then interrupts the ignition circuit.
edit: Also after perusing a few Forums on the subject including the link supplied by Cem, it seems the oil pump is a likely culprit!
You may have something here, Phil. I'd forgotten about this little johnny. Last time I cleaned the lens with a dab of white spirit. I'll take a look tomorrow when it's light. :y
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http://www.hrmboilers.co.uk/assets/uploads/products/wallstarmanualNEW_1.pdf (http://www.hrmboilers.co.uk/assets/uploads/products/wallstarmanualNEW_1.pdf)
may be this
http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=107880 (http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=107880)
Thanks, Cem. I'll read up and see if I can throw some light on the matter. :y
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Having had my fair share of problems with my oil burner I can suggest one or more of the following posibilities.
- ran out of oil
- in-line filter blocked
- (may not have one) second filter inside boiler (just before diesel gets to ignition stage) blocked.
- low water pressure
- depending on location of tanks + boiler + route of pipework - the diesel gets too cold and becomes a little jelly like, therefore restricting flow.
- crap in the firing nozzle.
- (unlikely, but possible) soot in boiler / chimney. Keep it clean
Remember a couple of points. A yearly service should keep most of these issues at bay. If you haven't had it serviced in a while, then there's a problem straight away.
Boilers tend to start going on the blink around now, as thru the summer they work very little and then suddenly huge demands are placed on them. And as their use in summer is limited, then winter use, huge, it reacts similar to a car engine. Potter around town for 000s of miles, then blast it out on the M-way for long periods, you're gonna gets problems.
Moral being, that service time is good in autumn, just before long periods of use.
HTH
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Photocell certainly worth checking as is the filter, Pump can be bled as their may be air in the system if you let it run out, pump could be gone but ime rare in domestic settings, is fuel coming through? their is a filter on the back of the nozzle, you need to take the nozzle out to clean it.......have you got a spark? Good Luck..... :y :y
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Had problems here recently, was low pressure.
Does yours have a pressure gauge?
No, Mr Tunnie. I believe that the Wallstar range of boiler was last updated in 1789.
;D
Was a vintage year that ::)
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Had problems here recently, was low pressure.
Does yours have a pressure gauge?
No, Mr Tunnie. I believe that the Wallstar range of boiler was last updated in 1789.
;D
Was a vintage year that ::)
I used to work with industrial oil heaters that hailed from that era, or thereabouts.... :D :D :D
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I've cleaned the photocell with white spirit and replaced it. It looked fine.
Plenty of oil in tank, and plenty of oil in the line leading to the pump.
"Power on" light still showing even when I turn the wall thermostat off. Strange. ??? ???. It always went off before. ??? ???
Still shows no sign of purge/ignition. :-\
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I've cleaned the photocell with white spirit and replaced it. It looked fine.
Plenty of oil in tank, and plenty of oil in the line leading to the pump.
"Power on" light still showing even when I turn the wall thermostat off. Strange. ??? ???. It always went off before. ??? ???
Still shows no sign of purge/ignition. :-\
Pressure ok?
Perhaps airlocks, giving false reading on pressure - have you bled rads recently?
Plenty of oil in tank and line is a red hering. It's there, but it obviously ain't moving. Filter(s)?
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I've cleaned the photocell with white spirit and replaced it. It looked fine.
Plenty of oil in tank, and plenty of oil in the line leading to the pump.
"Power on" light still showing even when I turn the wall thermostat off. Strange. ??? ???. It always went off before. ??? ???
Still shows no sign of purge/ignition. :-\
Pressure ok?
Perhaps airlocks, giving false reading on pressure - have you bled rads recently?
Plenty of oil in tank and line is a red hering. It's there, but it obviously ain't moving. Filter(s)?
Yes. Would this make a difference?
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Are you going to have it repaired or let the wife freeze to death? Tight barsteward ;D
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Are you going to have it repaired or let the wife freeze to death? Tight barsteward ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
I can see someone featuring in a new book by his other half; The Central Heating Murder Mystery ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Are you going to have it repaired or let the wife freeze to death? Tight barsteward ;D
She passed on last week, during the cold spell. Still, couldn't be helped. ;D ;)
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At least with the current temperatures she won't have started to smell yet!
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At least with the current temperatures she won't have started to smell yet!
Well, any more than she did before....
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Poor woman will be getting a bit of peace now. ;D
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If you have bled the rads, I assume you have topped the water pressure back up to the normal level. Around 2 bar normally for oil burner but some are lower. If you didn't then there is possibly the problem. If you bled a lot of air and topped up the level you could have an air lock. Push the pressure a little higher and bleed a little more.
HTH
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The filters on oil lines have a tendancy to get clogged up while looking absoutely fine. Give it a clean with a suitable cleaner, make sure you use your fingers to clear the mesh and retry. Happened a lot with my oil boiler in france.