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Title: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 05 July 2013, 19:33:21
According to AutoExpress..

It will be at the Frankfurt motor show 2013 in September.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1045009_10151550388339195_820341355_n.jpg)

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhall/64871/vauxhall-monza-coupe-debut-frankfurt-show

Not sure on the looks, When i first saw the picture at a glance i thought it was a Mazda.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: tunnie on 05 July 2013, 19:39:20
I like that myself, but would they really call it Monza or go to some fancy eurocrapo name?
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 05 July 2013, 19:41:28
Sounds good, RWD, 3.6-litre V6, Shame its a Coupe but maybe it'll be roomy  :-\
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 05 July 2013, 19:42:57
I like that myself, but would they really call it Monza or go to some fancy eurocrapo name?

Hard to say  :-\
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Andy B on 05 July 2013, 19:55:02
Sounds good, RWD, 3.6-litre V6, Shame its a Coupe but maybe it'll be roomy  :-\

That was the idea of the Monza  ???  ??? That's like saying. Shame my MX5 only has 2 seats  ::)  ::)  ::)

It looks good to me.  :y
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 05 July 2013, 19:57:55
Sounds good, RWD, 3.6-litre V6, Shame its a Coupe but maybe it'll be roomy  :-\

That was the idea of the Monza  ???  ??? That's like saying. Shame my MX5 only has 2 seats  ::)  ::)  ::)

It looks good to me.  :y

Aye i know. Was just thinking out loud as if this was a saloon being RWD and with smaller engines (than a VXR8 i mean) available it would have potentially become an Omega successor  :-\

Probably be around the 20k - 30k mark maybe even more.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Andy B on 05 July 2013, 20:02:13
....

Aye i know. Was just thinking out loud as if this was a saloon being RWD and with smaller engines (than a VXR8 i mean) available it would have potentially become an Omega successor  :-\

But what did the Omega replace? Smaller engine options were only available to the Carlton/Omega A to appease the masses. The Senator was dropped. The Monza was a little more upmarket that the Manta ...... a bit like the Monaro is/was now.  ;)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: omega3000 on 05 July 2013, 20:52:21
Well cars just get fuglier each year  ;D Now a coming back of the senator straight 6 would be a step in the right direction  :)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 July 2013, 22:27:07
'It has been 16 years since the death of Vauxhalls' last big coupe, the Calibra...'

Who writes this shite ;D The Monaro was sold until 2007, which even my fingers and toes makes only 6 years ago, and it was a damn site bigger than a two door Chavalier hatchback ::)

Looks like it might be a badge engineered Cadillac CTS Coupe :-\ time will tell...
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Andy B on 05 July 2013, 22:33:53
'It has been 16 years since the death of Vauxhalls' last big coupe, the Calibra...'

Who writes this shite ;D The Monaro was sold until 2007, which even my fingers and toes makes only 6 years ago, and it was a damn site bigger than a two door Chavalier hatchback ::)

Looks like it might be a badge engineered Cadillac CTS Coupe :-\ time will tell...

Exactly what I thought.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: albitz on 05 July 2013, 22:38:10
That's is fugly beyond description.Non of the classy look which should entitle it to be called Monza. ::)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 05 July 2013, 22:42:15
'It has been 16 years since the death of Vauxhalls' last big coupe, the Calibra...'

Who writes this shite ;D The Monaro was sold until 2007, which even my fingers and toes makes only 6 years ago, and it was a damn site bigger than a two door Chavalier hatchback ::)

Looks like it might be a badge engineered Cadillac CTS Coupe :-\ time will tell...

Exactly what I thought.  ;D ;D

Steve Fowler apparently.
(http://www.motorcodes.co.uk/images/stories/garage-of-the-year/judges/steve-fowler.jpg)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Nick W on 05 July 2013, 23:13:41
I won't comment on the car until worthwhile pictures are available!
Those 3 are useless; they just show 'Vauxhall's' generic fake-Audi-lite-grille front end.
What the hell does the rest of the car look like?
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 08 July 2013, 18:51:23
Another...

Haven't seen any rear picture or interior.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1044336_562529297119897_863520580_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 22 August 2013, 18:29:52
More Pictures of it...........

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/opelmonzaconcept_directfront_open3-small.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/opelmonzaconcept_rear_open3-small.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/opelmonzaconcept_rear3-small.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/opelmonzaconcept_front3-small.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/opelmonzaconcept_rear78-5smaller.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/opelmonzaconcept_detail_front-lit3.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/opelmonzaconcept_detail_taillamp_lit3.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/opelmonzaconcept_detail_frontlight_lit3.jpg)

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhall/65643/vauxhall-opel-monza-concept-unveiled
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Michael2.6 on 22 August 2013, 18:54:16
It looks like something out of batman films

Or is it another knight rider car we will have them talking to us shortly! ::)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 22 August 2013, 19:06:42
Crikey! It's not just BMW! Seems nobody knows where to stop when "styling" a car these days. ::)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: cam2502 on 22 August 2013, 20:25:21
Oh that hurts your eyes! Don't like the gullwing doors at all
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 August 2013, 20:26:22
Not sure about the doors and sides but I love the head on shots. :y
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Broomies Mate on 22 August 2013, 21:32:31
You lot need your cataracts done again.

That is epically beautiful. 

Jesus Mary and Dave!
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 August 2013, 22:17:39
And it's a thumbs up from me!!  :y :y :y  Except for those dirty great gullwing doors.  :(

Imagine getting in when it's raining and howling, the whole interior will get a wash!!  :o  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Nick W on 22 August 2013, 22:21:46
Are the pics really of the same car? Aside from the gullwing effort being truly ghastly, the original white car clearly shows a door handle plus a shut line in the rear quarter panel, just like a normal coupe would have. The grey one just looks like any other 'concept' inspired by the designer eating too much cheese before going to bed.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 August 2013, 22:33:21
You can never have too much cheese :o
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 August 2013, 09:03:30
its beautiful but if I cant buy it , its ugly ;D
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: albitz on 23 August 2013, 09:14:11
If beauty is skin deep,that thing is inside out. Hideous. :)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Michael2.6 on 23 August 2013, 18:20:42
One hundred percent I agree. Albitz :y
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: dbug on 23 August 2013, 18:30:43
Its all a matter of personal taste and opinion - personally think it looks good from front view, then imo its all out of perspective.  Each to their own though ???
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 23 August 2013, 19:00:53
Its all a matter of personal taste and opinion - personally think it looks good from front view, then imo its all out of perspective.  Each to their own though ???

+1  :y

this will be the 1st European opel/vauxhall RWD vehicle to come back into the market.. Should be interesting nevertheless how it looks.

EDIT: Well i think it's going to be rwd.. "Although initial reports from Germany suggested that the concept would be rear-wheel drive like the original Monza"
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 August 2013, 19:12:19
Its all a matter of personal taste and opinion - personally think it looks good from front view, then imo its all out of perspective.  Each to their own though ???

+1  :y

this will be the 1st European opel/vauxhall RWD vehicle to come back into the market.. Should be interesting nevertheless how it looks.

EDIT: Well i think it's going to be rwd.. "Although initial reports from Germany suggested that the concept would be rear-wheel drive like the original Monza"

..  until the bean counters get to ruin it. ;)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 August 2013, 19:33:51
Its all a matter of personal taste and opinion - personally think it looks good from front view, then imo its all out of perspective.  Each to their own though ???

Now look dbug, this has to stop. Your agreeing with ME now. Your making me nervous.  :-\

 ;D
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: dbug on 23 August 2013, 19:42:28
Its all a matter of personal taste and opinion - personally think it looks good from front view, then imo its all out of perspective.  Each to their own though ???

Now look dbug, this has to stop. Your agreeing with ME now. Your making me nervous.  :-\

 ;D

Didn't notice your post - wouldn't knowingly agree with you  ;D ;D ;D ;D
No ulterior motive ;)

But wouldn't want to be seen as argumentative for arguments sake  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 August 2013, 22:37:18
At a guess would say that it's based on the Cadillac CTS coupe, and on that basis wouldn't be at all surprised if it's left hand drive only :-\
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Andy B on 23 August 2013, 23:18:43
.... wouldn't be at all surprised if it's left hand drive only :-\

Like both Opel GTs were  :( :(
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: MaxV6 on 24 August 2013, 00:26:41
'It has been 16 years since the death of Vauxhalls' last big coupe, the Calibra...'

Who writes this shite ;D The Monaro was sold until 2007, which even my fingers and toes makes only 6 years ago, and it was a damn site bigger than a two door Chavalier hatchback ::)

Looks like it might be a badge engineered Cadillac CTS Coupe :-\ time will tell...


not only that,   but

Quote
The Monza name has been used before in the UK on an Opel-badged coupe, which later became the Vauxhall Royale.

scuse me???   LATER????

historically ignorant whippersnapper

Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 August 2013, 20:09:07
And it's a thumbs up from me!!  :y :y :y  Except for those dirty great gullwing doors.  :(

Imagine getting in when it's raining and howling, the whole interior will get a wash!!  :o  ::)  ;D

Imagine trying to get out when your just driven it into the garage!
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 25 August 2013, 01:05:28
Nouvelle Opel Monza 2014 presenté au salon de Frankfurt  2013 (Full HD)   

via McTube for YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNvDBOwQtkg
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 04 September 2013, 23:45:24
(http://s24.postimg.org/j2360epkl/monza_new.png)

(http://s18.postimg.org/xgq1c64wp/monza_new_2.png)

(http://www.inautonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Opel-Monza-Concept-287500.jpg)

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: TheBoy on 05 September 2013, 10:44:10
For crying out loud, most of these pics are for the concept car. FFS.  If ever they did bring the concept car into existence, it would be dramatically remodelled, both for usability and for manufacturing.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 05 September 2013, 15:42:57
For crying out loud, most of these pics are for the concept car. FFS.  If ever they did bring the concept car into existence, it would be dramatically remodelled, both for usability and for manufacturing.

Someone sounds grumpy..  :o

It's just something to pass the time, It does look as if the Monza will be going into production at some point, The way officially Opel and Vauxhall are talking about it and the major car magazines. Obviously it won't look exactly like the pictures but the overall shape will be close. As for the interior there's no sense to how it would work just looks like something from Star Trek.

Front looks good (compared to how cars are going these days) sides OK, Back questionable. We'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: TheBoy on 05 September 2013, 19:50:55
For crying out loud, most of these pics are for the concept car. FFS.  If ever they did bring the concept car into existence, it would be dramatically remodelled, both for usability and for manufacturing.

Someone sounds grumpy..  :o

It's just something to pass the time, It does look as if the Monza will be going into production at some point, The way officially Opel and Vauxhall are talking about it and the major car magazines. Obviously it won't look exactly like the pictures but the overall shape will be close. As for the interior there's no sense to how it would work just looks like something from Star Trek.

Front looks good (compared to how cars are going these days) sides OK, Back questionable. We'll just have to wait and see.
What will be released will be nothing like the concepts. Yet people were looking at it as if it was real.

:)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 05 September 2013, 20:42:44
For crying out loud, most of these pics are for the concept car. FFS.  If ever they did bring the concept car into existence, it would be dramatically remodelled, both for usability and for manufacturing.

Someone sounds grumpy..  :o

It's just something to pass the time, It does look as if the Monza will be going into production at some point, The way officially Opel and Vauxhall are talking about it and the major car magazines. Obviously it won't look exactly like the pictures but the overall shape will be close. As for the interior there's no sense to how it would work just looks like something from Star Trek.

Front looks good (compared to how cars are going these days) sides OK, Back questionable. We'll just have to wait and see.
What will be released will be nothing like the concepts. Yet people were looking at it as if it was real.

:)

Fair point  :y
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: VXL V6 on 05 September 2013, 21:36:36
Not sure how an Opel Monza can come back if it's not running on a V Car chassis derivative?
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 September 2013, 22:05:04
For crying out loud, most of these pics are for the concept car. FFS.  If ever they did bring the concept car into existence, it would be dramatically remodelled, both for usability and for manufacturing.
For the benefit of TB amongst others...

 http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=holden+monaro+coupe+60&client=tablet-android-sony&hl=en-GB&source=android-browser-suggest&v=141338691&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=nfAoUr_XO8PChAeprYCACQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAA&biw=1280&bih=800  (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=holden+monaro+coupe+60&client=tablet-android-sony&hl=en-GB&source=android-browser-suggest&v=141338691&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=nfAoUr_XO8PChAeprYCACQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAA&biw=1280&bih=800)

A production ready proposal worthy of the Monza name 8)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 05 September 2013, 22:16:29
For crying out loud, most of these pics are for the concept car. FFS.  If ever they did bring the concept car into existence, it would be dramatically remodelled, both for usability and for manufacturing.
For the benefit of TB amongst others...

 http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=holden+monaro+coupe+60&client=tablet-android-sony&hl=en-GB&source=android-browser-suggest&v=141338691&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=nfAoUr_XO8PChAeprYCACQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAA&biw=1280&bih=800  (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=holden+monaro+coupe+60&client=tablet-android-sony&hl=en-GB&source=android-browser-suggest&v=141338691&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=nfAoUr_XO8PChAeprYCACQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAA&biw=1280&bih=800)

A production ready proposal worthy of the Monza name 8)

 :y

We need more variety like these in the VX line up so they can become great value used buys in the future, The VXR8 isn't for everyone we'd all love one but the running costs  :-\

Say a few engine's around the 2.5 - 4.0 mark and RWD.

Regarding the Monza there are mixed reports whether it will be RWD or not or even be a "petrol only" car or some kind of hybrid like the Ampera idea. Hopefully more info will be released at the Frankfurt 2013 auto show 10th of September.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 September 2013, 22:37:22
Regarding the Monza there are mixed reports whether it will be RWD or not or even be a "petrol only" car or some kind of hybrid like the Ampera idea. Hopefully more info will be released at the Frankfurt 2013 auto show 10th of September.
Where it will be launched as a 1.6t wwd Insignia Coupe, just before it gets canned as a non starter. Hopefully. I remember going to the Epcot Centre in 1989. One thing at  the GM display was a flying car concept with clip on wings. That was doubtless showcased at Detroit the previous year. Can't recall ever seeing one since ::)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 10 September 2013, 14:03:00
Few more pictures... Most from the Frankfurt Motor show 10th September 2013.
(http://www.autogazette.de/asset/cms_image_asset/article_big_image/opel-monza-concept-karl-thomas-neumann-r-mark-adams-neu-437272.jpg)

(http://s2.glbimg.com/8gavA_wDXdu6cwtkBQI7hinYpig=/620x465/s.glbimg.com/jo/g1/f/original/2013/09/09/monza-frank4-afp_1.jpg)

(http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/opel-monza-concept-2013-frankfurt-auto-show_100439361_l.jpg)

(http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1086839_opel-monza-concept-live-photos-2013-frankfurt-auto-show#100439354)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1185366_10151910582070522_1207618973_n.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/monza-1g.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/vauxhall-monza-interior.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/vauxhall-opal-monza-rear-top.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/vauxhall-opal-monza-rear-doors-open.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/vauxhall-opal-monza-front-reveal.jpg)

(http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/opel-monza-concept-2013-frankfurt-auto-show_100439358_l.jpg)

(http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/opel-monza-concept-2013-frankfurt-auto-show_100439373_l.jpg)

(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery/public/vauxhall-monza-profile.jpg)

(http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/opel-monza-concept-2013-frankfurt-auto-show_100439375_l.jpg)

(http://i.auto-bild.de/ir_img/1/1/1/4/0/2/2/Opel-Monza-Concept-Sitzprobe-729x486-5240e6766893b1b0.jpg)

Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 10 September 2013, 14:32:57
Still just a concept car...

Just because it is hypothetically possible to make something, doesn't mean that it will ever be made ::)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Monza Coming Back Apparently...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 10 September 2013, 15:48:51
Still just a concept car...

Just because it is hypothetically possible to make something, doesn't mean that it will ever be made ::)

Still interesting  :)