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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 07 August 2013, 19:11:23
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Best comment I've seen for a long time:
Hi Spain. Only me. I just google-mapped Gibraltar as I didn't really know where you kept it. And I couldn't help notice this little place just over the water called Ceuta. I think it's yours but you've actually left it in someone else's country and Wikipedia tell me that Morocco rather want it back. I'm not being funny, Spain, but is this the pot calling the kettle Moorish? Anyways, send my love to Portugal. Toodleoo.
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If you have Facebook, you'll find the originator here:
https://www.facebook.com/philipjeclarke (https://www.facebook.com/philipjeclarke)
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Ceuta and Melilla are a bit different.
A better bet is to support my campaign to have Andalucia given back to the Moors. It was taken from them 500 years ago. I think they would run it better than this lot and then there would be no issues with Gibraltar either. I will run the campaign on Facebook and Titter. First I will have to find them. ;D ;D
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Taking an interesting turn. Spain is teaming up with Argentina to cry foul to anyone who will listen . About Gib, Falklands. While the Spanish minister is in Argentina he is also going to ask when Repsol are going to get compensated for the oil company the Argies just grabbed. I bet the minister has had a nice bung from Repsol to do that. :o
far from "going away" it seems the subject is being ramped up. Meanwhile my campaign to give Andalucia back to the Moors has attracted zero interest - predictably. ;D ;D
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Should we start giving support to Catalunya ? ;) ;D
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I assume where the Spanish government is targeting Gibraltar their economic meltdown is now approaching the level of Argentina's, so they are trying to divert the populations attention for the same reasons. ::) ::) ::)
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Should we start giving support to Catalunya ? ;) ;D
No. The Catalans are waiting to see the outcome of Scotland which I fervently hope will stay in the UK.
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Can we not just quietly ship arms to all the ex-pats living in Spain and then invade? ;)
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Ask for a refund of the uk share of all the EU funds they have had. That,ll **** em. ;D
If the Brits all stopped going there on holiday it would make them sweat a bit too. :)
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Cough- Canary Islands............... :-\
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I assume where the Spanish government is targeting Gibraltar their economic meltdown is now approaching the level of Argentina's, so they are trying to divert the populations attention for the same reasons. ::) ::) ::)
As always in the history of World politics Rods2. Nothing changes, and this is a classic example of that manoeuvring.
This morning Royal Navy ships (task force?) are on their way to Gibraltar for their usual "naval exercises at this time of the year" as quoted by the BBC. :D :D :D :D :y
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In 2002, Britain accidentally(?) invaded Spain when a detachment of Marines from 45 Commando mistakenly(?) stormed a beach in La Linea de la Concepción, the Spanish town that borders Gibraltar. They were repulsed by two Spanish police officers... .
My brackets and question marks!!!, yes the Spanish Police are that scary.
Let us hope it goes better this time. Gibraltar is the big sticky out rock with apes on it........... ;D ;D
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I assume where the Spanish government is targeting Gibraltar their economic meltdown is now approaching the level of Argentina's, so they are trying to divert the populations attention for the same reasons. ::) ::) ::)
As always in the history of World politics Rods2. Nothing changes, and this is a classic example of that manoeuvring.
This morning Royal Navy rowing boat (task force?) are on their way to Gibraltar for their usual "naval exercises at this time of the year" as quoted by the BBC. :D :D :D :D :y
Fixed. ;D
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I assume where the Spanish government is targeting Gibraltar their economic meltdown is now approaching the level of Argentina's, so they are trying to divert the populations attention for the same reasons. ::) ::) ::)
As always in the history of World politics Rods2. Nothing changes, and this is a classic example of that manoeuvring.
This morning Royal Navy rowing boat (task force?) are on their way to Gibraltar for their usual "naval exercises at this time of the year" as quoted by the BBC. :D :D :D :D :y
Fixed. ;D
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No, this is a task force which the BBC lists as follows:
"The group includes HMS Bulwark, HMS Illustrious, HMS Montrose and HMS Westminster. Helicopter carrier HMS Illustrious departed from Portsmouth on Monday morning and will join the navy flagship HMS Bulwark, which has sailed from Devonport.
HMS Westminster will be stopping over in Gibraltar, accompanied by the Royal Fleet Auxiliary ships Lyme Bay and Mounts Bay."
I do not think anyone, let alone the Spanish, will challenge that if push comes to shove! :D :D :D ;)
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Hmmm I dunno Lizzie! I expect the Spanish have more rowing boats than us and they're probably more modern! Hell, they might even be able to fly aeroplanes off them!! :-\
I expect they are still pissed about Trafalgar!! ::) ;D
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It's not just Ceuta there are a few more Spanish Gibraltars:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Mapa_del_sur_de_Espa%C3%B1a_neutral.png)
Having said that all the stuff about the 1714 treaty that gave us Gib is a little rich. We did illegally and violently occupy it 10 years earlier.
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I like that map.
can you believe we used to own the lovely island of Minorca with its superb deep water harbour ?!
Another Gib issue not being talked about is fuel bunkering. This is refueling big ships just off Gib from moored petrol stations
. The Spanish are not happy about it citing environmental concerns but it is probably doing their docks out of a lot of business. Dockyards/shipbuilding is in the news here a lot as the EU have asked for the massive grants back. Of course they have been spent already.
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http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/agriculturaypesca/moluzonasprodu/ZonaProduccionAction.do?accion=filtrarEspecie&accionVC=ok&especie=0&url=http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/agriculturaypesca/moluzonasprodu/
Google earth showing the fishing zones - none of which seem to cover the disputed Gib areas.
When the Navy arrive you will be able to use this (it is updated every 15 minutes) to keep tabs on the action. The detail on zoom is quite amazing.
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Hmmm I dunno Lizzie! I expect the Spanish have more rowing boats than us and they're probably more modern! Hell, they might even be able to fly aeroplanes off them!! :-\
I expect they are still pissed about Trafalgar!! ::) ;D
Ah, but they and the French did at Trafalgar, and we still soundly beat them! 19-0 to the Royal Navy!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
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Well if the Britsh ships had glass bottoms they would be able to view the old spanish navy enroute.
Nothing particularly ancient about what is being sent, would have been nice to throw a type 45 into the mix to.
Wonder if there is anything large black and submerged in the area?
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Well if the Britsh ships had glass bottoms they would be able to view the old spanish navy enroute.
Nothing particularly ancient about what is being sent, would have been nice to throw a type 45 into the mix to.
Wonder if there is anything large black and submerged in the area?
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One within striking distance - 3,000 miles? - without doubt :D :D :D ;)
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Well if the Britsh ships had glass bottoms they would be able to view the old spanish navy enroute.
Nothing particularly ancient about what is being sent, would have been nice to throw a type 45 into the mix to.
Wonder if there is anything large black and submerged in the area?
Is that a veiled reference to the latest Spanish state of the art subs? They got the design very wrong (70 tons too heavy due to a decimal point in the wrong place) and thus they have a desire to sink!! http://o.canada.com/2013/06/06/spain-builds-submarine-70-tons-too-heavy/
PS if anyone ever asks what Spain gave the world the answer is apparently subs!
PPS I bet you are suspecting that one of our nuclear subs will be hanging around submerged
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Could turn quite interesting quite quickly :-\
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Might be a slightly fairer fight this time than last - fleet of 61 warships and 34,000 men against 500 defenders in 1704.
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Could turn quite interesting quite quickly :-\
Not too interesting until about 15th September would suit me fine. ;)
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Spain nothing more than a 10 minute problem. 7 minutes to lookup and transmit the codes, 3 minutes later problem solved. :o :o :o :o
The Spanish Government will have more pressing problems, than Gibraltar, once their banks do a real valuation of their property debts. ::) ::) ::) ::)
To meet the Basel III cash to loans requirement European banks have got to get rid of €3.2trillion of loans by 2019. ::)
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And they are trying to tell us the Eurozone is out of recession. ::) ;)
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Could turn quite interesting quite quickly :-\
Not too interesting until about 15th September would suit me fine. ;)
Don't worry, I am sure the Royal Navy will pick the 21st of October, around midday ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
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(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02653/gibraltar_2653770b.jpg)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/gibraltar/10267638/Spanish-Gibraltar-invasion-fake-pictures-spark-fury.html
Posted on Follybook by some Spanish mayor.
So, Parliament is being recalled to debate Syria. Hmmm, maybe it's really to consider invading the Iberian Peninsular ;D
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Is the Joint Operations Station still in operation or was it decommissioned ??? I know there were rumours that the actual rock it hollow to hold munitions and the spying equipment, although the alleged nuclear capable munitions was a myth
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If the spanish attacked then we would simply need to throw a load of euro coins on the ground and the stampede from the locals would wipe the lot out.
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Is the Joint Operations Station still in operation or was it decommissioned ??? I know there were rumours that the actual rock it hollow to hold munitions and the spying equipment, although the alleged nuclear capable munitions was a myth
A huge amount of The Rock is hollow. Over the years and centuries many tunnels and caverns have created for many purposes, but mostly military. It's actually a bit suprising that it stands up on it's own ;) Visitors to the Rock can walk though quite a few of them.
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Love to do a trip down there on the bike, sail into Santander, then bike down to Gibralter and back.
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I assume where the Spanish government is targeting Gibraltar their economic meltdown is now approaching the level of Argentina's, so they are trying to divert the populations attention for the same reasons. ::) ::) ::)
As always in the history of World politics Rods2. Nothing changes, and this is a classic example of that manoeuvring.
This morning Royal Navy rowing boat (task force?) are on their way to Gibraltar for their usual "naval exercises at this time of the year" as quoted by the BBC. :D :D :D :D :y
Fixed. ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Trust you! ;D ;D ;D ;D
No, this is a task force which the BBC lists as follows:
"The group includes HMS Bulwark, HMS Illustrious, HMS Montrose and HMS Westminster. Helicopter carrier HMS Illustrious departed from Portsmouth on Monday morning and will join the navy flagship HMS Bulwark, which has sailed from Devonport.
HMS Westminster will be stopping over in Gibraltar, accompanied by the Royal Fleet Auxiliary ships Lyme Bay and Mounts Bay."
I do not think anyone, let alone the Spanish, will challenge that if push comes to shove! :D :D :D ;)
2 x Apache gunships spotted over Pompey harbour, last Friday evening. Both circled over the harbour & landed in the vicinity, either Fleetlands Gosport or the carrier ???