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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tooleater on 18 October 2013, 19:18:44
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Coopers of Stortford >:( wont be buying from them again. ordered 3cree hand held spot lamp rechargable 2 weeks ago, would have been quicker to buy direct from China. they say up to 28 days for delivery, they mean it, absolute awful service. compared to Torch Direct, Led Lenser p7.2 ordered pm day b4 on doorstep next day :o with standard delivery
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Ive just bought one of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TrustFire-3x-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-Flashlight-Torch-3800L-CH-/270911838383?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&hash=item3f139a98af
Not from this seller tho but from fleabay.....should be nice and bright to walk HollyDog as the nights draw in :)
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How do rate it mate 3800 lumens :o
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How do rate it mate 3800 lumens :o
Not got it yet.....bought it yesterday....marked as dispatched....may get it mon/tues next week...i'll let you know :y
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lot cheaper than x21, a snip at £279 and thats cheap compared £350
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would have been quicker to buy direct from China. they say up to 28 days for delivery, they mean it, absolute awful service. .....
Had the same with Towsure ..... they dispatched on the last day day they could within their guidelines. When challenged, they said that I should have paid for their express delivery.
There are plenty of other on line 'shops' available that don't take the p***
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How do rate it mate 3800 lumens :o
Not got it yet.....bought it yesterday....marked as dispatched....may get it mon/tues next week...i'll let you know :y
It arrived on tuesday.....well impressed with the brightness.....however the rechargeable batteries they sent are knackered i reckon.....normally the charger takes 3-4hours to charge them.....1st charge took about 12hours :o and charges after that take 3-4 hours.....but they only last about 5mins before the torch starts to dim....I have other rechargeable batteries (but of lower capacity) that fit and they last 30-40 mins before dying.
On looking further on ebay ..... theres this torch for example
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3X-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-3800Lm-Flashlight-Torch-3800Lm-Torch-3-18650-Charger-/300929623578?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&hash=item4610cda61a
Which is the same torch as the one I bought, but it can take 2 or 3 batteries (mine takes only 2),
but confuses me ..... 2 batteries and the voltage is 7.4v across the bulb, 3 batteries and voltage is 11.1v across the bulb :-\ is that right?? But does say in the ad voltage input is 8.4v max, so is the torch limiting the voltage to 8.4v when 3 batteries are used :-\
Confused of Swindon :-\ ;D
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could be wired in parallel so you get same voltage, but longer life?
LED bulbs only run on about 3V each anyway, otherwise they blow.
(sort of - they can be adjusted with resistors, but that spoils the efficiency)
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data sheet here: http://www.cree.com/led-components-and-modules/products/xlamp/discrete-directional/xlamp-xml (http://www.cree.com/led-components-and-modules/products/xlamp/discrete-directional/xlamp-xml)
says that each LED runs on 3.1V, so I'm guessing that extra batteries DO increase battery life, rather than brightness
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could be wired in parallel so you get same voltage, but longer life?
LED bulbs only run on about 3V each anyway, otherwise they blow.
(sort of - they can be adjusted with resistors, but that spoils the efficiency)
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data sheet here: http://www.cree.com/led-components-and-modules/products/xlamp/discrete-directional/xlamp-xml (http://www.cree.com/led-components-and-modules/products/xlamp/discrete-directional/xlamp-xml)
says that each LED runs on 3.1V, so I'm guessing that extra batteries DO increase battery life, rather than brightness
Batteries are in series, two or three, but there are 3 leds in this torch.....so roughly 2.4v across each led with 2 batts, 3.7v with 3 batts.....if the voltage isnt limited....maybe just playing the torch will work with 3 batts but reduced life span :-\
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My hand held arrived this morning, looks ok dont expect alot for £14.99. Led lenser P7.2 wow German engineering :y
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How do rate it mate 3800 lumens :o
Not got it yet.....bought it yesterday....marked as dispatched....may get it mon/tues next week...i'll let you know :y
It arrived on tuesday.....well impressed with the brightness.....however the rechargeable batteries they sent are knackered i reckon.....normally the charger takes 3-4hours to charge them.....1st charge took about 12hours :o and charges after that take 3-4 hours.....but they only last about 5mins before the torch starts to dim....I have other rechargeable batteries (but of lower capacity) that fit and they last 30-40 mins before dying.
On looking further on ebay ..... theres this torch for example
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3X-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-3800Lm-Flashlight-Torch-3800Lm-Torch-3-18650-Charger-/300929623578?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&hash=item4610cda61a
Which is the same torch as the one I bought, but it can take 2 or 3 batteries (mine takes only 2),
but confuses me ..... 2 batteries and the voltage is 7.4v across the bulb, 3 batteries and voltage is 11.1v across the bulb :-\ is that right?? But does say in the ad voltage input is 8.4v max, so is the torch limiting the voltage to 8.4v when 3 batteries are used :-\
Confused of Swindon :-\ ;D
I was reading reviews on Amazon for the CREE bike lights and a couple of people had faulty batteries, so it does seem like a common problem, but they did send them back and get them replaced and they were alright after that. I would suggest you contact the seller on Ebay and arrange that.
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How do rate it mate 3800 lumens :o
Not got it yet.....bought it yesterday....marked as dispatched....may get it mon/tues next week...i'll let you know :y
It arrived on tuesday.....well impressed with the brightness.....however the rechargeable batteries they sent are knackered i reckon.....normally the charger takes 3-4hours to charge them.....1st charge took about 12hours :o and charges after that take 3-4 hours.....but they only last about 5mins before the torch starts to dim....I have other rechargeable batteries (but of lower capacity) that fit and they last 30-40 mins before dying.
On looking further on ebay ..... theres this torch for example
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3X-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-3800Lm-Flashlight-Torch-3800Lm-Torch-3-18650-Charger-/300929623578?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&hash=item4610cda61a
Which is the same torch as the one I bought, but it can take 2 or 3 batteries (mine takes only 2),
but confuses me ..... 2 batteries and the voltage is 7.4v across the bulb, 3 batteries and voltage is 11.1v across the bulb :-\ is that right?? But does say in the ad voltage input is 8.4v max, so is the torch limiting the voltage to 8.4v when 3 batteries are used :-\
Confused of Swindon :-\ ;D
I was reading reviews on Amazon for the CREE bike lights and a couple of people had faulty batteries, so it does seem like a common problem, but they did send them back and get them replaced and they were alright after that. I would suggest you contact the seller on Ebay and arrange that.
Ive sent the seller an email asking just that, will see what happens
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I've got a £8 ever ready one from asda. It's great. ;D
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How do rate it mate 3800 lumens :o
Not got it yet.....bought it yesterday....marked as dispatched....may get it mon/tues next week...i'll let you know :y
It arrived on tuesday.....well impressed with the brightness.....however the rechargeable batteries they sent are knackered i reckon.....normally the charger takes 3-4hours to charge them.....1st charge took about 12hours :o and charges after that take 3-4 hours.....but they only last about 5mins before the torch starts to dim....I have other rechargeable batteries (but of lower capacity) that fit and they last 30-40 mins before dying.
On looking further on ebay ..... theres this torch for example
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3X-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-3800Lm-Flashlight-Torch-3800Lm-Torch-3-18650-Charger-/300929623578?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&hash=item4610cda61a
Which is the same torch as the one I bought, but it can take 2 or 3 batteries (mine takes only 2),
but confuses me ..... 2 batteries and the voltage is 7.4v across the bulb, 3 batteries and voltage is 11.1v across the bulb :-\ is that right?? But does say in the ad voltage input is 8.4v max, so is the torch limiting the voltage to 8.4v when 3 batteries are used :-\
Confused of Swindon :-\ ;D
I was reading reviews on Amazon for the CREE bike lights and a couple of people had faulty batteries, so it does seem like a common problem, but they did send them back and get them replaced and they were alright after that. I would suggest you contact the seller on Ebay and arrange that.
Ive sent the seller an email asking just that, will see what happens
Well, that was quick, got a reply to the email about 5 mins after i sent it.
I asked about sending the batteries back for replacement......he replied not to bother he'd send another......not sure what he meant by that?? as there are two batteries.....is he sending another torch or just batteries :-\ See what turns up i guess :-\
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Most likely new torch complete with batteries these companies cannot afford negative feed back :y
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I've got a £8 ever ready one from asda. It's great. ;D
I was going to ask what you use it for......but on reflection, i dont think i want to know :-X ;D
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My hand held arrived this morning, looks ok dont expect alot for £14.99. Led lenser P7.2 wow German engineering :y
Just googled that.....at only 320l it cannot be that bright?? :-\
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This is the seller i bought mine from.......mind he's put the price up £2 on this listing.....I paid £10 plus the del charge.....i havent left feedback yet ::)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281190802321
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My hand held arrived this morning, looks ok dont expect alot for £14.99. Led lenser P7.2 wow German engineering :y
Just googled that.....at only 320l it cannot be that bright?? :-\
I cannot see from the pics.......but i hope it doesnt have a 'projector' lense on it??
I bought a cree torch last year with a projector lense on it.......it was like omega headlamps with projectors and filament bulbs ..... rubbish for brightness :(
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Mostly boilers in dark cupboards, I think 3800 lumens cant be right, if it is no wonder batteries only last 5 mins. X21 1600 lumens, nothing can match, but then thats to be expected seeing it the same cost as a Mig ;D
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Mostly boilers in dark cupboards, I think 3800 lumens cant be right, if it is no wonder batteries only last 5 mins. X21 1600 lumens, nothing can match, but then thats to be expected seeing it the same cost as a Mig ;D
It uses 2 x 18650 3.7v batteries......the batteries that came with it are 3800mAh and last 5 mins.....i have some 18650 3.7 batts that are 3200mAh....they last 30-40 mins from fully charged :y ....so its a problem with the batts......dont forget its got 3 x led bulbs.... :y
PS if your using your torch for boilers in the dark......then 3800l torch would be too bright....i go walking HollyDog in the woods with mine....lighting up the woods its fine for :y ..... tho im careful not to shine it in her eyes....when i turn to look back for her i shine it upwards....to avoid her eyes :y
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Had Coppers hand held on for 1hr 30 constantly,stiil holding its own,more of along distance spot, Led lenser flood or spot. on spot it blazes a trail of pure white light for 100 s yards
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My hand held arrived this morning, looks ok dont expect alot for £14.99. Led lenser P7.2 wow German engineering :y
Just googled that.....at only 320l it cannot be that bright?? :-\
Depend what is trying to outshine! ::)
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Most likely new torch complete with batteries these companies cannot afford negative feed back :y
2 x batts 4000mAh....turned up tuesday......these ones are good :y
Thanked the selller and gave him a great feedback seeing as he gave great customer service and the cheapest i could find on the bay of E for the batteries he sent me was fiver :y
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After reading this thread, I've decided that I, too, would like a silly-bright torch.
So I'm gonna mount one of the HIDs from my MV6 in a box, and connect it to a 12V motorbike battery.
:o
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After reading this thread, I've decided that I, too, would like a silly-bright torch.
So I'm gonna mount one of the HIDs from my MV6 in a box, and connect it to a 12V motorbike battery.
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Might be a bit heavy that, mate. :-\
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it'll be right. it's only to look in the cupboard under the steps ;D ;D ;D
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when I was in my early teens, I used to have a motorbike headlight + battery that I used to use for lamping - carried it miles every night.
Think I could manage something a bit heavier now.
A 160Ah truck battery might be a bit overkill tho ;)
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when I was in my early teens, I used to have a motorbike headlight + battery that I used to use for lamping - carried it miles every night.
Think I could manage something a bit heavier now.
A 160Ah truck battery might be a bit overkill tho ;)
There must be better and lighter alternatives nowadays, I recently bought an LED bulb for an older style torch, what a difference, my 6 cell Maglight is next for conversion....... :y :y
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when I was in my early teens, I used to have a motorbike headlight + battery that I used to use for lamping - carried it miles every night.
Think I could manage something a bit heavier now.
A 160Ah truck battery might be a bit overkill tho ;)
There must be better and lighter alternatives nowadays, I recently bought an LED bulb for an older style torch, what a difference, my 6 cell Maglight is next for conversion....... :y :y
There was 25 years ago as well - handheld halogen spotlamps which were (IIRC) about 25 quid. Designed to plug into cig lighter, so still needed m/bike battery.
Think I paid about 3 quid for the headlamp, and 6 or 8 quid for the battery
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when I was in my early teens, I used to have a motorbike headlight + battery that I used to use for lamping - carried it miles every night.
Think I could manage something a bit heavier now.
A 160Ah truck battery might be a bit overkill tho ;)
There must be better and lighter alternatives nowadays, I recently bought an LED bulb for an older style torch, what a difference, my 6 cell Maglight is next for conversion....... :y :y
There was 25 years ago as well - handheld halogen spotlamps which were (IIRC) about 25 quid. Designed to plug into cig lighter, so still needed m/bike battery.
Think I paid about 3 quid for the headlamp, and 6 or 8 quid for the battery
Somewhere..... ::) :-[ I have a 12v Signal lamp / Search light now that is pretty good but old skool teknowledgy.......... :)