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Title: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: pscocoa on 19 November 2013, 21:00:39
....by someone undertaking who misjudged space to get away with dodgy manoeuvre. Happened at high speed and Phaeton held road well, seems to be surprising little damage but some paint work needed. No-one hurt thankfully but Mrs quite shaken. Sainsbury Bank insurance so far brilliant in all respects.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: MR MISTER on 19 November 2013, 21:02:29
....by someone undertaking who misjudged space to get away with dodgy manoeuvre. Happened at high speed and Phaeton held road well, seems to be surprising little damage but some paint work needed. No-one hurt thankfully but Mrs quite shaken. Sainsbury Bank insurance so far brilliant in all respects.
Glad no one was hurt, that's the most important thing :y

So......how long had you been hogging the middle lane exactly? ;D
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: pscocoa on 19 November 2013, 21:08:24
I was in outside lane and he was behind...he decided to undertake on lane 1 to get past van in lane 2 and come out in front of a few cars in lane 3. When he realised no space just cut across into lane 3 - no signal even.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: MR MISTER on 19 November 2013, 21:10:42
I was in outside lane and he was behind...he decided to undertake on lane 1 to get past van in lane 2 and come out in front of a few cars in lane 3. When he realised no space just cut across into lane 3 - no signal even.
I hope you imparted this information to the relevant people or, at least, punched him.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: pscocoa on 19 November 2013, 21:14:12
Nobody else stopped and so no independent witnesses...no point in spending time arguing on hard shoulder in busy lorry traffic which is so dangerous.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 November 2013, 21:14:30
psococoa , I'm glad no one was hurt..  car can be repaired anyway..
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: pscocoa on 19 November 2013, 21:17:54
Thanks Cem cannot believe no dents just scratching. It all happened so quick at over 70 mph, shunted me slightly towards barrier but no idea what I did but corrected it. Car went into neutral and not sure why or if I moved gear stick. It drove fine for the remainder of 130 miles.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: MR MISTER on 19 November 2013, 21:18:36
Nobody else stopped and so no independent witnesses...no point in spending time arguing on hard shoulder in busy lorry traffic which is so dangerous.
I'm afraid I take a very dim view of someone trying to kill my family.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 November 2013, 21:25:18
Thanks Cem cannot believe no dents just scratching. It all happened so quick at over 70 mph, shunted me slightly towards barrier but no idea what I did but corrected it. Car went into neutral and not sure why or if I moved gear stick. It drove fine for the remainder of 130 miles.

if paint is not scratched until bare metal its better you let it repaired in spring or when temperatures rise and outside not wet or snowy.. :-\
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: MR MISTER on 19 November 2013, 21:29:38
Thanks Cem cannot believe no dents just scratching. It all happened so quick at over 70 mph, shunted me slightly towards barrier but no idea what I did but corrected it. Car went into neutral and not sure why or if I moved gear stick. It drove fine for the remainder of 130 miles.
Jesus. That could have been so much worse. I'm wound up just thinking about it. Keep your eye on your missus.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: pscocoa on 19 November 2013, 21:36:12
Yes she was shaking like mad and we had to stop at Stafford Services for a while.

I was calm but still do not know how I reacted automatically to avoid the central reservation, whether it was the abs, the 4 wheel drive or what ever other gadgets we have these days, maybe even just the weight of the car. The other car was a new Nissan Pathfinder.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 19 November 2013, 21:44:08
Nobody else stopped and so no independent witnesses...no point in spending time arguing on hard shoulder in busy lorry traffic which is so dangerous.
i am getting a camera just for things like that :y
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 19 November 2013, 21:45:07
Nobody else stopped and so no independent witnesses...no point in spending time arguing on hard shoulder in busy lorry traffic which is so dangerous.
I'm afraid I take a very dim view of someone trying to kill my family.
i agree with that  :y :y
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: chrisgixer on 19 November 2013, 21:51:20
Sorry to hear of this. Lovely car the Phaeton.

It might be worth calling the police, just to see if anyone made themselves known as a witness. People tend not to stop on motorways.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: MR MISTER on 19 November 2013, 21:56:25
Sorry to hear of this. Lovely car the Phaeton.

It might be worth calling the police, just to see if anyone made themselves known as a witness. People tend not to stop on motorways.
You really dont think sometimes, do you?  ;D
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: chrisgixer on 19 November 2013, 22:33:55
Sorry to hear of this. Lovely car the Phaeton.

It might be worth calling the police, just to see if anyone made themselves known as a witness. People tend not to stop on motorways.
You really dont think sometimes, do you?  ;D

If it was a Beemer I wouldn't give a rats wasname. ;)

I'm sure the a phaeton will be lovely once more Esta. Now ef off ya pedant! ;D
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: Gaffers on 19 November 2013, 22:39:33
Nobody else stopped and so no independent witnesses...no point in spending time arguing on hard shoulder in busy lorry traffic which is so dangerous.
I'm afraid I take a very dim view of someone trying to kill my family.

I agree completely.  Normally I am nice gentle fella, but bring harm on to my family, friends or myself and it's Jekyll and Hyde
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 November 2013, 10:29:03
psococoa , I'm glad no one was hurt..  car can be repaired anyway..
Yep....That is always the most important thing. :y

Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: pscocoa on 20 November 2013, 12:55:45
Insurers are Sainsbury Bank but claim is actually handled by Direct Line who were trying to get my car into Rainbow Bodyshops at Slough. Managed to get it switched to a proper VW dealer who reckons damage can be fixed for £500 which is incredible. It almost rubbed out but there a couple of areas which cannot be left. I really do not understand how little damage occurred - just waiting for a call which starts "unfortunately.......".

VW also found some minor corrosion near a door trim which is a known fault and they are fixing this also - where aluminium meets steel screw - they replace fixing with new mount. VW bodywork is warrantied for 12 years.

Enterprise bringing an S Class Merc this afternoon as part of the Sainsbury insurance package.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: tunnie on 20 November 2013, 13:23:20
Insurers are Sainsbury Bank but claim is actually handled by Direct Line who were trying to get my car into Rainbow Bodyshops at Slough. Managed to get it switched to a proper VW dealer who reckons damage can be fixed for £500 which is incredible. It almost rubbed out but there a couple of areas which cannot be left. I really do not understand how little damage occurred - just waiting for a call which starts "unfortunately.......".

VW also found some minor corrosion near a door trim which is a known fault and they are fixing this also - where aluminium meets steel screw - they replace fixing with new mount. VW bodywork is warrantied for 12 years.

Enterprise bringing an S Class Merc this afternoon as part of the Sainsbury insurance package.

Should be interesting  :y
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 November 2013, 15:47:33
Insurers are Sainsbury Bank but claim is actually handled by Direct Line who were trying to get my car into Rainbow Bodyshops at Slough. Managed to get it switched to a proper VW dealer who reckons damage can be fixed for £500 which is incredible. It almost rubbed out but there a couple of areas which cannot be left. I really do not understand how little damage occurred - just waiting for a call which starts "unfortunately.......".

VW also found some minor corrosion near a door trim which is a known fault and they are fixing this also - where aluminium meets steel screw - they replace fixing with new mount. VW bodywork is warrantied for 12 years.

Enterprise bringing an S Class Merc this afternoon as part of the Sainsbury insurance package.

Should be interesting  :y


Yes......every cloud and all that.... :y :y
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: pscocoa on 20 November 2013, 18:59:14
S6 has arrived but too dark to see much. Funny handbrake and auto gear stick set up but I will survive.

Other party has admitted liability.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 November 2013, 11:31:33
S6 has arrived but too dark to see much. Funny handbrake and auto gear stick set up but I will survive.

Other party has admitted liability.

Good stuff. Looking forward to review ;)
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: pscocoa on 21 November 2013, 15:19:46
S Class has got this stop start technology which is not my thing at all. Have not had chance to get to grips with the Command System as yet so confined to listening to radio until I can get handbook out. Doors seem lighter than Phaeton and indicator clicks noisily but certainly drives well but no chance to get on open road today. I prefer the auto gear stick in centre console not on steering wheel as with this car.

Apparently my car will be fixed and ready tomorrow night so expereince will be short lived.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 November 2013, 15:27:56
Handbook? That's no fun. ;)
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: Andy B on 21 November 2013, 19:31:58
..... I prefer the auto gear stick in centre console not on steering wheel as with this car. ....

Why? :-\ Yours, like my R Class's, is just an electric version of column changes from yonks back and it clears a space in the middle for other things.  :y
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 November 2013, 19:43:40
I was pondering this the other day.

There no reason at all, that I can think of at least, why the gear lever needs to exist at all. It's purely an electrical input on the end of the lever linkage.

In fact it could be a simple switch on the dash. ...or indeed, placed anywhere, like a flappy padle behind... No ignore that. ;D
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: MR MISTER on 21 November 2013, 19:44:16
S Class has got this stop start technology which is not my thing at all. Have not had chance to get to grips with the Command System as yet so confined to listening to radio until I can get handbook out. Doors seem lighter than Phaeton and indicator clicks noisily but certainly drives well but no chance to get on open road today. I prefer the auto gear stick in centre console not on steering wheel as with this car.

Apparently my car will be fixed and ready tomorrow night so expereince will be short lived.
Turn it off.
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 November 2013, 19:46:46
..... I prefer the auto gear stick in centre console not on steering wheel as with this car. ....

Why? :-\ Yours, like my R Class's, is just an electric version of column changes from yonks back and it clears a space in the middle for other things.  :y

But it does force the drivers wrist into an awkward, almost gay, angle. ;)


I presume the Merc has its auto box gear display in the dash? One with the other, so to speak. ..?
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 November 2013, 19:54:28
I was pondering this the other day.

There no reason at all, that I can think of at least, why the gear lever needs to exist at all. It's purely an electrical input on the end of the lever linkage.

In fact it could be a simple switch on the dash. ...or indeed, placed anywhere, like a flappy padle behind... No ignore that. ;D
You could make the Omega a push button system, but you would need to replace the selector switch/linkage on the gearbox with a servo of some description...

Yellow Corvette on American Hotrod had such a system fitted iirc :-\
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: pscocoa on 22 November 2013, 09:53:35
..... I prefer the auto gear stick in centre console not on steering wheel as with this car. ....

Why? :-\ Yours, like my R Class's, is just an electric version of column changes from yonks back and it clears a space in the middle for other things.  :y

But it does force the drivers wrist into an awkward, almost gay, angle. ;)



I presume the Merc has its auto box gear display in the dash? One with the other, so to speak. ..?

definitely do not like stalk gear system even with gear selection in display. When tight parking you are checking selection a lot to make sure you have it right.


Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 November 2013, 12:29:37
I was pondering this the other day.

There no reason at all, that I can think of at least, why the gear lever needs to exist at all. It's purely an electrical input on the end of the lever linkage.

In fact it could be a simple switch on the dash. ...or indeed, placed anywhere, like a flappy padle behind... No ignore that. ;D

Some automatic trucks have done away with the 'gear lever' in the centre.  An MAN I drove once had a rotary switch on the dash.

I'd never seen one before so sat there for a bit thinking 'How the f... do I drive this?' :-\ , before spotting the switch and having the 'lightbulb' moment!  ::)  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: MR MISTER on 22 November 2013, 13:08:45
IIRC, Suzuki vitara has a rotary dash switch for gear ratios
I was pondering this the other day.

There no reason at all, that I can think of at least, why the gear lever needs to exist at all. It's purely an electrical input on the end of the lever linkage.

In fact it could be a simple switch on the dash. ...or indeed, placed anywhere, like a flappy padle behind... No ignore that. ;D
IIRC, Suzuki vitara has a rotary dash switch for gear ratios.

Some automatic trucks have done away with the 'gear lever' in the centre.  An MAN I drove once had a rotary switch on the dash.

I'd never seen one before so sat there for a bit thinking 'How the f... do I drive this?' :-\ , before spotting the switch and having the 'lightbulb' moment!  ::)  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 November 2013, 13:11:23
I was pondering this the other day.

There no reason at all, that I can think of at least, why the gear lever needs to exist at all. It's purely an electrical input on the end of the lever linkage.

In fact it could be a simple switch on the dash. ...or indeed, placed anywhere, like a flappy padle behind... No ignore that. ;D
IIRC, Suzuki vitara has a rotary dash switch for gear ratios.

Some automatic trucks have done away with the 'gear lever' in the centre.  An MAN I drove once had a rotary switch on the dash.

I'd never seen one before so sat there for a bit thinking 'How the f... do I drive this?' :-\ , before spotting the switch and having the 'lightbulb' moment!  ::)  ;)  ;D

Cone Esta sort it put. You been up all night watching the cricket?
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: MR MISTER on 22 November 2013, 13:12:27
I was pondering this the other day.
Hu
There no reason at all, that I can think of at least, why the gear lever needs to exist at all. It's purely an electrical input on the end of the lever linkage.

In fact it could be a simple switch on the dash. ...or indeed, placed anywhere, like a flappy padle behind... No ignore that. ;D
IIRC, Suzuki vitara has a rotary dash switch for gear ratios.

Some automatic trucks have done away with the 'gear lever' in the centre.  An MAN I drove once had a rotary switch on the dash.

I'd never seen one before so sat there for a bit thinking 'How the f... do I drive this?' :-\ , before spotting the switch and having the 'lightbulb' moment!  ::)  ;)  ;D

Cone Esta sort it put. You been up all night watching the cricket?
Pardon? ;D
Title: Re: Phaeton clipped on M6
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 November 2013, 13:39:42
I was pondering this the other day.
Hu
There no reason at all, that I can think of at least, why the gear lever needs to exist at all. It's purely an electrical input on the end of the lever linkage.

In fact it could be a simple switch on the dash. ...or indeed, placed anywhere, like a flappy padle behind... No ignore that. ;D
IIRC, Suzuki vitara has a rotary dash switch for gear ratios.

Some automatic trucks have done away with the 'gear lever' in the centre.  An MAN I drove once had a rotary switch on the dash.

I'd never seen one before so sat there for a bit thinking 'How the f... do I drive this?' :-\ , before spotting the switch and having the 'lightbulb' moment!  ::)  ;)  ;D

Cone Esta sort it put. You been up all night watching the cricket?
Pardon? ;D

Oh Bollards ;D