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Title: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 19:27:31
Bought the wife's megane coupe from the car people in September 2010. List price was around £18K. It was 6 months old and had covered 3000 miles. We paid £11K for it.
3 years 2 months and 30,000 miles later, the car buying service will give us £5430.
So....50% down in three years.
Like I said, let someone else take the first hit and you can't really go wrong.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 19:34:51
And how much will you get for it private sale? Those people are oppsing sharks. Although if people are stupid enough to sell to them...
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: bigegg on 09 December 2013, 19:39:04
2010 megan coupe on ebay.
181 of them, one listed at 5290 - rest are 6000 to 14000, most on the high side of that figure.
course, that means that esta's point is valid - even less depreciation  ::)
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 19:42:01
And how much will you get for it private sale? Those people are oppsing sharks. Although if people are stupid enough to sell to them...
C'mon Chris. Private sellers attract loads of tyre kickers who try to knock you down. The hassle just isn't worth it. This company tell you what they'll give you and, if you agree, it's in the bank next day. No paying for ads, no fending off dickheads and African con men. Thats worth a few hundred quid in itself.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 19:59:15
And how much will you get for it private sale? Those people are oppsing sharks. Although if people are stupid enough to sell to them...
C'mon Chris. Private sellers attract loads of tyre kickers who try to knock you down. The hassle just isn't worth it. This company tell you what they'll give you and, if you agree, it's in the bank next day. No paying for ads, no fending off dickheads and African con men. Thats worth a few hundred quid in itself.

Not the 10% minimum, you posted on another thread then.

You sir, are oppsing mental using these firms. Absolutely mental.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 20:00:47
And we don't all live in Liverpool.

...and, for the last time, go take your medication.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 20:03:14
And how much will you get for it private sale? Those people are oppsing sharks. Although if people are stupid enough to sell to them...
C'mon Chris. Private sellers attract loads of tyre kickers who try to knock you down. The hassle just isn't worth it. This company tell you what they'll give you and, if you agree, it's in the bank next day. No paying for ads, no fending off dickheads and African con men. Thats worth a few hundred quid in itself.

Not the 10% minimum, you posted on another thread then.

You sir, are oppsing mental using these firms. Absolutely mental.
Haven't used any firms, Gladys, and it's you who needs the meds ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 20:04:50
I don't live in Liverpool either, keep up  ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 20:06:59
Bought the wife's megane coupe from the car people in September 2010. List price was around £18K. It was 6 months old and had covered 3000 miles. We paid £11K for it.
3 years 2 months and 30,000 miles later, the car buying service will give us £5430.
So....50% down in three years.
Like I said, let someone else take the first hit and you can't really go wrong.

And you've lost 5k in three years.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 20:07:48
I don't live in Liverpool either, keep up  ;D

Well, where ever you are now, it clearly wasn't a step up ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 20:08:55
Bought the wife's megane coupe from the car people in September 2010. List price was around £18K. It was 6 months old and had covered 3000 miles. We paid £11K for it.
3 years 2 months and 30,000 miles later, the car buying service will give us £5430.
So....50% down in three years.
Like I said, let someone else take the first hit and you can't really go wrong.

And you've lost 5k in three years.
A very, very reasonable amount. I think, if you canvass opinion, you'll be in the minority again. That's not counting Al  ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: Entwood on 09 December 2013, 20:16:39
Bought the wife's megane coupe from the car people in September 2010. List price was around £18K. It was 6 months old and had covered 3000 miles. We paid £11K for it.
3 years 2 months and 30,000 miles later, the car buying service will give us £5430.
So....50% down in three years.
Like I said, let someone else take the first hit and you can't really go wrong.

And you've lost 5k in three years.
A very, very reasonable amount. I think, if you canvass opinion, you'll be in the minority again. That's not counting Al  ;D

mmmm well I paid £6500 (- £1500 trade in) for the Omega 6 years ago then £2200 for the LPG conversion so the car "owes" me £7200 .. I reckon with the Irmscher kit/LPG kit/tow bar etc I could reasonably get £1500, maybe a tad more .. but at £1500 the car has "lost" £5700 over 6 years ....  but I've saved £4100 in fuel - after deducting the conversion costs... so the car has "cost" me £1600 over 6 years .... I call that cheap motoring .. :)
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 20:19:04
Bought the wife's megane coupe from the car people in September 2010. List price was around £18K. It was 6 months old and had covered 3000 miles. We paid £11K for it.
3 years 2 months and 30,000 miles later, the car buying service will give us £5430.
So....50% down in three years.
Like I said, let someone else take the first hit and you can't really go wrong.

And you've lost 5k in three years.
A very, very reasonable amount. I think, if you canvass opinion, you'll be in the minority again. That's not counting Al  ;D

mmmm well I paid £6500 (- £1500 trade in) for the Omega 6 years ago then £2200 for the LPG conversion so the car "owes" me £7200 .. I reckon with the Irmscher kit/LPG kit/tow bar etc I could reasonably get £1500, maybe a tad more .. but at £1500 the car has "lost" £5700 over 6 years ....  but I've saved £4100 in fuel - after deducting the conversion costs... so the car has "cost" me £1600 over 6 years .... I call that cheap motoring .. :)
Hardly a typical experience though, Nige.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 20:21:40
Thing is when all is said and done, people expect to lose money on cars. They are a consumable, buy it, use it, throw it away.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: bigegg on 09 December 2013, 20:24:46
bought my mig for £500
Spent about 1500 on it in 4 years.
Scrapped and stripped for parts - bout £600 back
so cost me 350 a year for four years of  :D


or my lexus - cost me 700 quid, 100 back on tax refund when it went on disabled tax.
had it 3 months, and could sell it now for what I paid + then some now I've sorted out a couple of niggles (30 mins work, no parts).
so cost = zero, so far.

Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 20:39:49
Thing is when all is said and done, people expect to lose money on cars. They are a consumable, buy it, use it, throw it away.

Aaah. I don't know where to start with you on this... You couldn't be more wrong.
Only by those that can't or won't do their own repairs and maintenance. Yes they cost but by no means the level your talking.

The older the car the less you loose on it in depreciation and mark up on buying and selling. Other side of the coin is it goes wrong more often. That's where oof comes in. And my spanners.

So...
Buy and sell privately, saving of £1000 over a car dealer straight away.
Keep it ling term so save another £1000 each time you don't replace it.
Do your own maintenance and repairs at trade prices. Say 1/3 off in tc, more on used parts obviously.
No labour costs.

So the only costs are;

The car
Fuel
Parts

Minimal depreciation, but I'll break the car when I've done with it anyway, if needed.
No mark up on buying and selling.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 20:41:17
As I said, you are in the minority.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 20:42:16
As I said, you are in the minority.

And...?
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 December 2013, 20:42:29
As I said, you are in the minority.
Doesn't mean it's wrong though ::)

The Joneses aren't all they're cracked up to be... you understand that to a degree as you drive a second hand Daewoo out of choice, rather than spending £20k on a new one...
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 20:44:34
As I said, you are in the minority.
Doesn't mean it's wrong though ::)
There is no right or wrong, Al, just differing points of view. But I'm not going to say anyone's an idiot for having that point of view.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 20:45:15
As I said, you are in the minority.
Doesn't mean it's wrong though ::)

More importantly, it means Esta is wrong.

Imagine the money he could have saved himself, given the time he's spent on here anyway.


...no wait, if he had an omega we'd have to let him out of gen chat. No, no no no. You keep your Daewoo Esta. ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 20:47:19
As I said, you are in the minority.
Doesn't mean it's wrong though ::)
There is no right or wrong, Al, just differing points of view. But I'm not going to say anyone's an idiot for having that point of view.

No, wrong again. The correct answer is the cheapest one, and ine that does NOT end up with a Daewoo at the end of it. Where's me rubber mallet, I need to knock some sense into something.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 20:47:26
As I said, you are in the minority.
Doesn't mean it's wrong though ::)

More importantly, it means Esta is wrong.

Imagine the money he could have saved himself, given the time he's spent on here anyway.


...no wait, if he had an omega we'd have to let him out of gen chat. No, no no no. You keep your Daewoo Esta. ;:
Yeah. I'm wrong here, Tunnie's wrong over the brakes, in fact, everyone is wrong....except you. :-*
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 20:48:41
As I said, you are in the minority.
Doesn't mean it's wrong though ::)

More importantly, it means Esta is wrong.

Imagine the money he could have saved himself, given the time he's spent on here anyway.


...no wait, if he had an omega we'd have to let him out of gen chat. No, no no no. You keep your Daewoo Esta. ;:
Yeah. I'm wrong here, Tunnie's wrong over the brakes, in fact, everyone is wrong....except you. :-*

Tunnies answer is cheapest, by some way. But he'll be late. A lot. ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 December 2013, 20:49:05
Edited my last btw :y
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 20:51:48
As I said, you are in the minority.
Doesn't mean it's wrong though ::)
There is no right or wrong, Al, just differing points of view. But I'm not going to say anyone's an idiot for having that point of view.

No, wrong again. The correct answer is the cheapest one, and ine that does NOT end up with a Daewoo at the end of it. Where's me rubber mallet, I need to knock some sense into something.
What does it end up with then? A 12 year old piece of junk that people laugh at and car salesmen don't recognise? ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 December 2013, 20:53:11
People ridicule that which they don't understand. Just the way it is :-\
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 20:54:33
People ridicule that which they don't understand. Just the way it is :-\
Omegas and flying saucers ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 20:56:20
We all, on oof, are wrong. We should all sell our omegas and buy Daewoos for 11k, give away 5k and pay the local scouse hoodies to service it.

Yeah right.

I could be an awfull lot more frugal with my omega ownership. Sell the Irmscher stuff, drive more economically, buy cheaper t**es and save meself a few more quid. But this forum and the collective knowledge here, lpg and my spanners mean, that I don't have too do that.

A luxury, you might say. That's the only difference in opinion here.

Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 December 2013, 20:57:45
People ridicule that which they don't understand. Just the way it is :-\
Omegas and flying saucers ;D
Not to mention Daewoos, pooing the bed, Ready Brek and eating Reeses Peanut Butter Cups ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 20:59:00
There aren't that many scouse hoodies round these parts. Reckon I'd have to go to Liverpool for that.
Do you actually read anything? As I said, I will service my car, not the dealer or anyone else.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 21:00:04
People ridicule that which they don't understand. Just the way it is :-\
Omegas and flying saucers ;D
Not to mention Daewoos, pooing the bed, Ready Brek and eating Reeses Peanut Butter Cups ;D
Reese's peanut butter cups? No need for that. ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 21:01:11
As I said, you are in the minority.
Doesn't mean it's wrong though ::)
There is no right or wrong, Al, just differing points of view. But I'm not going to say anyone's an idiot for having that point of view.

No, wrong again. The correct answer is the cheapest one, and ine that does NOT end up with a Daewoo at the end of it. Where's me rubber mallet, I need to knock some sense into something.
What does it end up with then? A 12 year old piece of junk that people laugh at and car salesmen don't recognise? ;D
I get the feeling yours would certainly be junk after 12 years. Mine however, is almost mint. Or as mint as I can keep it anyway.

I will never ever subscribe to the equivalent of "BMW economics" there by paying for fixed servicing a fixed life of the car, and a fixed profit for the car maker and its service dept. it's a rip off, in the name of a warranty that they are he'll bent in not paying out on.

Btw, please tell me you don't have extended warranty...?
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 21:02:39
There aren't that many scouse hoodies round these parts. Reckon I'd have to go to Liverpool for that.
Do you actually read anything? As I said, I will service my car, not the dealer or anyone else.

Oh all of a sudden we're talking about you specifically. We WHERE talking about the Jonses. Keep up will you. ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 21:03:48
I don't. And you can be sure I won't have a Daewoo in 12 years as well, probably not even three years. Us 'modern' folk like to set fire to our money. ;D
Consumerism....I love it.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 December 2013, 21:04:09
Hmmm...

 http://www.hersheysstore.com/product/7732  (http://www.hersheysstore.com/product/7732)

You were saying...
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 21:05:06
There aren't that many scouse hoodies round these parts. Reckon I'd have to go to Liverpool for that.
Do you actually read anything? As I said, I will service my car, not the dealer or anyone else.

Oh all of a sudden we're talking about you specifically. We WHERE talking about the Jonses. Keep up will you. ;D
I don't think the Jones's live in Liverpool, probably Wales or somewhere close.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 21:06:09
Hmmm...

 http://www.hersheysstore.com/product/7732  (http://www.hersheysstore.com/product/7732)

You were saying...
No I wasn't.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 21:10:48
Esta, face it, you've cost yourself a bloody fortune.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 21:13:50
Esta, face it, you've cost yourself a bloody fortune.
Yeah. But I don't care, that's the whole point, a different point of view to yours......see?
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 December 2013, 21:15:51
Cheshire and Lundun aren't that far from suburbia, where the Joneses live in their gated estates, with matching BMWs and Audis...

Think the opening scene from Kevin and Perry Go Large, only more upmarket...

 www.youtube.com/watch?v=k38Rb-FcwCM  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k38Rb-FcwCM) skip to 5 minutes if you're not a fan ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 December 2013, 21:16:22
Hmmm...

 http://www.hersheysstore.com/product/7732  (http://www.hersheysstore.com/product/7732)

You were saying...
No I wasn't.
All the more for me then 8)
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 21:18:11
Esta, face it, you've cost yourself a bloody fortune.
Yeah. But I don't care, that's the whole point, a different point of view to yours......see?

No its not a point of view, its complete financial disaster. ;D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 21:20:54
Esta, face it, you've cost yourself a bloody fortune.
Yeah. But I don't care, that's the whole point, a different point of view to yours......see?

No its not a point of view, its complete financial disaster. ;D
Only if you've got no money left to waste on buy more cars.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 21:23:04
Esta, face it, you've cost yourself a bloody fortune.
Yeah. But I don't care, that's the whole point, a different point of view to yours......see?

No its not a point of view, its complete financial disaster. ;D
Only if you've got no money left to waste on buy more cars.

I simply couldn't afford your car history given the buying and selling method as well.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 21:23:49
Esta, face it, you've cost yourself a bloody fortune.
Yeah. But I don't care, that's the whole point, a different point of view to yours......see?

No its not a point of view, its complete financial disaster. ;D
Only if you've got no money left to waste on buy more cars.

I simply couldn't afford your car history given the buying and selling method as well.
Well then....don't try :)
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 21:24:59
Or, put another way, the omega enables me to do other things financially I couldn't do with your car history.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 21:26:02
Esta, face it, you've cost yourself a bloody fortune.
Yeah. But I don't care, that's the whole point, a different point of view to yours......see?

No its not a point of view, its complete financial disaster. ;D
Only if you've got no money left to waste on buy more cars.

I simply couldn't afford your car history given the buying and selling method as well.
Well then....don't try :)

....you don't have the bottle to add up how much you could have saved.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 21:27:32
Or, put another way, the omega enables me to do other things financially I couldn't do with your car history.
Now we're getting somewhere. I don't want/need to do 'other things'. :)
I want to eff about with different cars .
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 21:57:25
Or, put another way, the omega enables me to do other things financially I couldn't do with your car history.
Now we're getting somewhere. I don't want/need to do 'other things'. :)
I want to eff about with different cars .

Oh oppsing SIGH....

No you don't you want to piss money up the wall. If you your post was true you'd buy and sell privately. Then you COULD DO ALOT MORE OF WHAT YOU SAY YOU WANT TO DO. as you would have an awful lot more money. Jeez...
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 22:18:14
Or, put another way, the omega enables me to do other things financially I couldn't do with your car history.
Now we're getting somewhere. I don't want/need to do 'other things'. :)
I want to eff about with different cars .

Oh oppsing SIGH....

No you don't you want to piss money up the wall. If you your post was true you'd buy and sell privately. Then you COULD DO ALOT MORE OF WHAT YOU SAY YOU WANT TO DO. as you would have an awful lot more money. Jeez...
Thought I'd gone to bed and you could have the last word, eh? ;D
You are wrong, I am right...that's it.
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: Vamps on 09 December 2013, 22:26:16
Talking of bed! get a room you two........ :D :D
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 22:28:02
Talking of bed! get a room you two........ :D :D
Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.,
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: Vamps on 09 December 2013, 22:32:43
Talking of bed! get a room you two........ :D :D
Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.,

 :y :y
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 December 2013, 23:09:46
Talking of bed! get a room you two........ :D :D
Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.,
Mind bleach to Gen Dis :o
Title: Re: carbuyingservice again
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 23:12:11
Talking of bed! get a room you two........ :D :D
Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.,

...not my t shirt you haven't. ;D