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Title: Drink Driving
Post by: dbug on 16 December 2013, 23:27:00
With Christmas nearly upon us I would like to share a personal experience with you about drinking and driving.

As you may know Northamptonshire Constabulary are having a serious go at Drink Drivers from 1st December this year.

Well, a couple of days ago I was out for an evening with friends and had a small number of drinks before dinner, followed by some rather nice red wine. Feeling "jolly" I had the sense to know that I may be very slightly over the limit.

That's when I did something that I've never done before - I took a black taxi home.

Sure enough on the way home there was a police road check, but since it was a taxi they waved it past. I arrived home safely without incident.

 






This was a real surprise as I had never driven a taxi before, I don't know where I got it and now that it's in my garage I don't know what to do with it.

Any ideas?
 ;)
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: dbug on 16 December 2013, 23:29:19
Whoops meant to post in Gen Chat :-[  Admin please move ;)
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 December 2013, 23:47:08
Top Tip. :y

Now... who do we know who's got a Taxi... ::)

Hmm. Does it have to be black? ???

Oh, actually, I know a black one that would be "adequate". ;)
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: dbug on 16 December 2013, 23:48:40
Top Tip. :y

Now... who do we know who's got a Taxi... ::)

Hmm. Does it have to be black? ???

Oh, actually, I know a black one that would be "adequate". ;)

My garage? ;)
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 December 2013, 00:05:23
Dorset Police are having a similar purge!  :(  I woke up to find a double decker bus parked on the lawn.....  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Terbs on 17 December 2013, 00:06:12
Hmmmmm ....could get some magnetic 'Taxi' plates made up to stick on the doors. Can't be that hard to get a 'Taxi' thingy to stick on the roof.  ;D  :y
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: AndyRoid on 17 December 2013, 05:04:45
Can't see the point in drink/driving, you'll only end up spilling it everywhere.
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 December 2013, 09:47:44
Hmmmmm ....could get some magnetic 'Taxi' plates made up to stick on the doors. Can't be that hard to get a 'Taxi' thingy to stick on the roof.  ;D  :y
Readily available but several offences if you do :P
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 December 2013, 09:48:56
Top Tip. :y

Now... who do we know who's got a Taxi... ::)

Hmm. Does it have to be black? ???

Oh, actually, I know a black one that would be "adequate". ;)

My garage? ;)
Break it :y anything not rusted through will sell ;D
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 December 2013, 10:01:15
Top Tip. :y

Now... who do we know who's got a Taxi... ::)

Hmm. Does it have to be black? ???

Oh, actually, I know a black one that would be "adequate". ;)

My garage? ;)
Break it :y anything not rusted through will sell ;D

This is actually the black cab I had in mind...  :-*

(http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r568/robseygo/001-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 December 2013, 10:08:16
Aye that would do the job 8) ;D
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Terbs on 17 December 2013, 10:47:03
Hmmmmm ....could get some magnetic 'Taxi' plates made up to stick on the doors. Can't be that hard to get a 'Taxi' thingy to stick on the roof.  ;D  :y
Readily available but several offences if you do :P

Only joking Al...I don't drink/drive......nor the next morning after a skinful...but to be honest those days are very, very few and far between nowadays ;)
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 December 2013, 10:59:57
Was actually refering to the Fake Taxi idea ;D

For the drink driving side of things I would credit most everyone here with more sense...
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Andy B on 17 December 2013, 14:20:07
....
For the drink driving side of things I would credit most everyone here with more sense...

It's amazing though the number of people that still do. The husband & son of my wife's work colleague was hit broadside by a pissed up driver just this week ..... fortunately all were OK, but the driver was that drunk he'd to be formally charged dinner time (lunch time for some  ;)) the following day when he'd sobered up enough.  :o
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 December 2013, 14:43:59
At which point I sincerely hope he got shot :-X
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 17 December 2013, 15:16:29
all i say dont do it . i wont  :y
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 17 December 2013, 16:30:33
I'm on nights this weekend and will be hunting, anything is fair game!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 December 2013, 16:33:16
I'm on nights foot this weekend and will be hunting, anything is fair game!  ;D ;D ;D

Fixed.. ;) Or is the BMW fixed too? :D
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 17 December 2013, 16:41:18
Got one of em back, but the engine is still in bits in the other. as for the other 2 God only knows. Might go under cover on nights in one of the plain cars, if they don't die aswell!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: moggy on 17 December 2013, 21:07:20
I got pulled last night,the copper said.Your drunk,i said thank god for that.Ive just had a full geo set up from WIM. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: chrisgixer on 17 December 2013, 21:15:08
I think FALKEN tyres should be an acceptable let off, personally, your honour.
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 December 2013, 13:53:12
I'm on nights foot this weekend and will be hunting, anything is fair game!  ;D ;D ;D

Fixed.. ;) Or is the BMW fixed too? :D
.

Power to your elbow!! :y :y

Get them all off the road, and those who have no insurance, no MOT, no licence, etc,etc The more the police remove those wasters from the road the better! :y
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 18 December 2013, 14:10:10
Ha! Might not even have a traffic job anymore come February!!! Unit is shrinking AGAIN!!! >:( :( >:( :(
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Andy B on 18 December 2013, 17:51:01
Ha! Might not even have a traffic job anymore come February!!! Unit is shrinking AGAIN!!! >:( :( >:( :(

 ........ and you can already drive the length & breadth of the country without seeing a Traffic copper  ??? ???
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 December 2013, 18:42:24
Ha! Might not even have a traffic job anymore come February!!! Unit is shrinking AGAIN!!! >:( :( >:( :(

 ........ and you can already drive the length & breadth of the country without seeing a Traffic copper  ??? ???

Indeed, it is a national problem - disgrace - that there is a lack of resource for traffic units just when more and more checks are expected to be done by them in addition to their usual traffic collision investigation capability and general law enforcement.  This is made worse by the drawing off of traffic units to support the reduced ranks of local police when incidents demand! ::) ::) ::) >:( >:(
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Shackeng on 20 December 2013, 18:44:33
A very dear friend lost his wife and youngest child, his best friend's wife and only child, to a drunk driver failing to stop at a junction. My friend's mother died shortly afterwards from stress induced heart attack. Neither man ever fully recovered, and my friend shot himself 20 years later.

All for the lack of common sense, this ruins so many lives.  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 20 December 2013, 19:08:53
Its so shocking that still after all the tragic incidents that have happened over the years people STILL drink & drive  >:( >:( >:( It really infuriates me when I have to go pick up the pieces and deliver the bad news.

Early in my career I had to go tell someone that their loved one had been innocently involved in a RTC. It was the 22nd December the house was like Santas grotto. When the female answered the door she had one little one in her arms and one running around on the floor, excited cause they thought it was daddy arriving home. What do you say?????????????
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 20 December 2013, 19:32:28
Its so shocking that still after all the tragic incidents that have happened over the years people STILL drink & drive  >:( >:( >:( It really infuriates me when I have to go pick up the pieces and deliver the bad news.

Early in my career I had to go tell someone that their loved one had been innocently involved in a RTC. It was the 22nd December the house was like Santas grotto. When the female answered the door she had one little one in her arms and one running around on the floor, excited cause they thought it was daddy arriving home. What do you say?????????????

That is certainly the worst part of a coppers job :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 29 December 2013, 23:08:24
Well that was an interesting set of late shifts!!!

6 drink drivers

1 RTC who's female drink driver (I say that in the loosest terms) Was sooooooo Pished I had to -

a) help her out of the car she crashed
b) literally carry her to my car because she could not walk / stand
c) repeat myself at least half a dozen times to be understood (and no it wasn't because of my broad Lancs accent  ;D )
d) she couldn't see very well so when I handed her the breath machine it took her all the time to focus on the tube let alone put it in her mouth.

Any guesses on what she blew  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Andy B on 29 December 2013, 23:14:07
.....
Any guesses on what she blew  ??? ??? ???

 :o :o :o :o No ...........  ;)
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: the alarming man on 29 December 2013, 23:15:49
Its so shocking that still after all the tragic incidents that have happened over the years people STILL drink & drive  >:( >:( >:( It really infuriates me when I have to go pick up the pieces and deliver the bad news.

Early in my career I had to go tell someone that their loved one had been innocently involved in a RTC. It was the 22nd December the house was like Santas grotto. When the female answered the door she had one little one in her arms and one running around on the floor, excited cause they thought it was daddy arriving home. What do you say?????????????

That is certainly the worst part of a coppers job :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


not only plod that delivers bad news....done a fair few myself :( :(
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: AndyRoid on 30 December 2013, 07:06:45
Well that was an interesting set of late shifts!!!

6 drink drivers

1 RTC who's female drink driver (I say that in the loosest terms) Was sooooooo Pished I had to -

a) help her out of the car she crashed
b) literally carry her to my car because she could not walk / stand
c) repeat myself at least half a dozen times to be understood (and no it wasn't because of my broad Lancs accent  ;D )
d) she couldn't see very well so when I handed her the breath machine it took her all the time to focus on the tube let alone put it in her mouth.

Any guesses on what she blew  ??? ??? ???

It all depends on how people react to alcohol, the last time I was in that kind of state was VE day in 1994 when I consumed 2 (litre) bottles of Smirnoff's finest.
I did manage to walk to the car when we left the pub, however my vision was so screwed that I saw 3 identical cars side by side in front of me at the first set of lights we pulled up at.
I started upchucking out of the window by the time we were on the A316 and I did end up being carried to bed where I stayed for 3 days with a major headache and constantly vomiting.

In the case of your customer, if she was an average size then I'll stab a guess at around the 140 mark.
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 30 December 2013, 08:13:09
For the sake of sounding like Brusie  ;D 140......... Higher higher!
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: MR MISTER on 30 December 2013, 08:24:28
For the sake of sounding like Brusie  ;D 140......... Higher higher!
170?
Any higher and she should have been taken to hospital.
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 30 December 2013, 12:10:31
198 & ended up on constant obs!!!!  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Andy B on 30 December 2013, 13:26:16
198 & ended up on constant obs!!!!  >:( >:( >:(

That's of breath? and where the limit is 35 milli per something?  :o :o :o Bloody hell. No wonder you had to carry her!!  Presumably she'd be charged the following day when she was a little more sober

What kind of age was she?
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 December 2013, 14:38:41
Didn't think you could be charged unless capable of understanding the charge :-\ not sure where that stands with the initial arrest though...

198 must be a record though :o presumably prison time will follow shortly :-\
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: MR MISTER on 30 December 2013, 14:41:46
Didn't think you could be charged unless capable of understanding the charge :-\ not sure where that stands with the initial arrest though...

198 must be a record though :o presumably prison time will follow shortly :-\
I doubt 198 is a record, but it's certainly up there.
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 30 December 2013, 14:43:49
She was taken to custody, seen by medical staff then some hour & half later blew 132 on the evidential machine. Then bedded down on constant obs. In the am (well just after mid-day) she was re-tested & when deemed 'fit' charged.
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 December 2013, 14:49:33
Didn't think you could be charged unless capable of understanding the charge :-\ not sure where that stands with the initial arrest though...

198 must be a record though :o presumably prison time will follow shortly :-\
I doubt 198 is a record, but it's certainly up there.
I know it's the Fail again ::) but...

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1241777/Behind-wheel--15-pints-lager-Christmas-police-trap-Britains-worst-drink-driver.html  (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1241777/Behind-wheel--15-pints-lager-Christmas-police-trap-Britains-worst-drink-driver.html)

She was taken to custody, seen by medical staff then some hour & half later blew 132 on the evidential machine. Then bedded down on constant obs. In the am (well just after mid-day) she was re-tested & when deemed 'fit' charged.
So does a person get sent up on the original reading or the secondary one :-\
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: MR MISTER on 30 December 2013, 14:51:11
Didn't think you could be charged unless capable of understanding the charge :-\ not sure where that stands with the initial arrest though...

198 must be a record though :o presumably prison time will follow shortly :-\
I doubt 198 is a record, but it's certainly up there.
I know it's the Fail again ::) but...

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1241777/Behind-wheel--15-pints-lager-Christmas-police-trap-Britains-worst-drink-driver.html  (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1241777/Behind-wheel--15-pints-lager-Christmas-police-trap-Britains-worst-drink-driver.html)

She was taken to custody, seen by medical staff then some hour & half later blew 132 on the evidential machine. Then bedded down on constant obs. In the am (well just after mid-day) she was re-tested & when deemed 'fit' charged.
So does a person get sent up on the original reading or the secondary one :-\
Wow. I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 December 2013, 14:52:48
Sit down again before your balance goes :y
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: albitz on 30 December 2013, 14:55:01
She was taken to custody, seen by medical staff then some hour & half later blew 132 on the evidential machine. Then bedded down on constant obs. In the am (well just after mid-day) she was re-tested & when deemed 'fit' - shot.

Would have been a better outcome. ;)
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 30 December 2013, 14:55:49
What happens is that you provide an initial roadside breath test, if you fail that one you are arrested taken to custard, where you have to provide 2 'evidential' tests. The lower of the two is used and if still over you will be bedded down until fit to be charged.
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 December 2013, 14:56:16
Aye, no point shooting someone unless they understand why :-X
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: MR MISTER on 30 December 2013, 14:57:43
What happens is that you provide an initial roadside breath test, if you fail that one you are arrested taken to custard, where you have to provide 2 'evidential' tests. The lower of the two is used and if still over you will be bedded down until fit to be charged.
Ah...so she blew 198 at the roadside and 132 on the intoximeter. That was probably the roadside kit being silly.
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 December 2013, 15:03:12
What happens is that you provide an initial roadside breath test, if you fail that one you are arrested taken to custard, where you have to provide 2 'evidential' tests. The lower of the two is used and if still over you will be bedded down until fit to be charged.
Ah...so she blew 198 at the roadside and 132 on the intoximeter. That was probably the roadside kit being silly.
You have to watch those tricksey anti bacterial wipes :D

132 is enough to warrant a kicking though...
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 30 December 2013, 15:04:36
You have to watch those tricksey anti bacterial wipes

Eh???
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: MR MISTER on 30 December 2013, 15:05:53
You have to watch those tricksey anti bacterial wipes

Eh???

Don't tell the copper, Al !!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 December 2013, 15:09:57
You have to watch those tricksey anti bacterial wipes

Eh???
Don't mind me, I've just watched Seasons 7&8 of Dexter... :-X

I know those tubes come sealed, and are single use...
Title: Re: Drink Driving
Post by: AndyRoid on 30 December 2013, 17:36:38
She was taken to custody, seen by medical staff then some hour & half later blew 132 on the evidential machine. Then bedded down on constant obs. In the am (well just after mid-day) she was re-tested & when deemed 'fit' charged.

So I was reasonably close at the 140 mark then  ;)

The highest I have ever heard/seen of is 155 on the Lion Intoximeter which was done by Hants police (Police, Camera, Action programme).
There was no way you would have believed that figure based on his actions/behaviour at the time, although the subject in that particular matter was a proper self confessed alcoholic so I'll take a guess that 155 was not a big deal to him personally.

If your roadside machine indicated a 198, I would (personally) question the integrity of the machine as that kind of reading would have all but the most hardened drinker in hospital (IMHO of course).