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Title: Hmmm………............
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 27 March 2014, 03:46:36
Was just browsing as you do now and then  ::)

..... and saw this… LINK (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201403142520259?atmobcid=soc4)

This appears to be one fine example of the LS430  :-*, If only I had the cash  :'( ;D

These are really growing on me, LS400 not really, They look outdated, But still a hell of a car..

LS430 Going by AutoTrader figures the MPG is as good if not better than a 3.2 Omega, Would imagine those figures go out the window if floored mind.. Then again it's not the kind of car to get thrashed but to waft about in with enough oomph when needed, 0-60 around 6.7sec. Not forgetting the endless gadgets, Especially Like the idea of cooled seats for summer.

Like these as well..  :-* But these LS460's are even more ££££ but you get a lot of car considering their price tag when new.

LINK (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201403182605182?atmobcid=soc4)
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 27 March 2014, 17:48:05
No one likes these then  :-X ;D
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Keith ABS on 27 March 2014, 17:54:55
Not to sure on the shape of that myself but the practicality of 4 doors is good. I am going to suffer when the Monza is finished later this year
keith b
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 March 2014, 18:30:28
I like the 460, but nearly £13k is a shed load for a 7 year old posh Toyota! :P  ;)

Anyway, why were you cruising Autotrader at 03.46.36??  :o  ::)  ;D

Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 27 March 2014, 18:46:04
I like the 460, but nearly £13k is a shed load for a 7 year old posh Toyota! :P  ;)

Anyway, why were you cruising Autotrader at 03.46.36??  :o  ::)  ;D

I know nothing  ;D ...

Yeah 13k for a 7 year old may seem expensive and it is, But these big LS Lexus do have a good reputation overall for high milage reliability, Considering that LS460 was probably around 60k+ New is it expensive at 13k and dropping  :-\ .. The LS430 is probably better value for money at the moment mind.
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: dbug on 27 March 2014, 22:50:54
Like the big Lexus - was looking at these as a possible replacement for my old Elite, until I got the Jag.  The big Lexus are typically comfortable, quiet and capable of big mileages, but expensive to maintain.  Whatever you do don't consider the small Lexus - pile of crap compared to the big ones ;)
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 27 March 2014, 22:57:19
Like the big Lexus - was looking at these as a possible replacement for my old Elite, until I got the Jag.  The big Lexus are typically comfortable, quiet and capable of big mileages, but expensive to maintain.  Whatever you do don't consider the small Lexus - pile of crap compared to the big ones ;)

Personally Lexus wise I only like the LS model out of the range  :y

May well be a replacement contender in the future, Talking about a few years or so I'd imagine..
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 March 2014, 23:21:45
Damn you Omegaman, you've got me at it now!  ::)  ;)

What about this one?  :y

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lexus-GS-450h-3-5-CVT-SE-L-/231190568177?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35d4081cf1

Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 28 March 2014, 00:23:48
Damn you Omegaman, you've got me at it now!  ::)  ;)

What about this one?  :y

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lexus-GS-450h-3-5-CVT-SE-L-/231190568177?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35d4081cf1

Not bad at all  :)

Still I'd rather the LS not just for the engine but the overall package  :y
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: cd 2.2 on 28 March 2014, 03:18:10
I love the original LS400 ... they are insanely fast for what they are and I had use of my dad's LS400's when I first passed my driving test! First was a Black jade pearl / charcoal and second was a black one with gold alloys!  For old 1992 J registered cars they were both in stunning condition and could both top 150mph with ease (I never did this with them on the M1 to see how fast they would go)  :D

Possibly the most memorable cars I ever had the pleasure of driving ... Only real issue is the repair costs to be fair

But the newer engines, just like the older ones are astonishing! Only ever buy an LS400 if you can stand a £1 coin on edge on top of the engine, start it,rev it up and the £1 coin stays where you put it  :y
Unfortunately we don't get that level of refinement in a mig ... it would be fun to put in a 1UZFE V8 engine into a mig though  8)
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 28 March 2014, 03:45:58
Here's a video clip of a V6 Omega with a coin on top of the engine.

http://youtu.be/LTz9jd5gxFE

.. Yeah that could well be their downfall if/when things go wrong you'll regret buying one till it's fixed and you'll enjoy it once again... Well... intill it needs something again  ;D
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 March 2014, 09:37:22
You guys are insomniacs!  :o  ;D

I bet the hybrid Lexus's like the one I linked to earlier could come with some hefty repair bills if the electrickery went wrong or the batteries died....  ::)  :-\
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 March 2014, 10:42:05
I like the 460, but nearly £13k is a shed load for a 7 year old posh Toyota! :P  ;)

Anyway, why were you cruising Autotrader at 03.46.36??  :o  ::)  ;D

I know nothing  ;D ...

Yeah 13k for a 7 year old may seem expensive and it is, But these big LS Lexus do have a good reputation overall for high milage reliability, Considering that LS460 was probably around 60k+ New is it expensive at 13k and dropping  :-\ .. The LS430 is probably better value for money at the moment mind.

You can buy a 7 year old Mercedes CLS 500 for £10,000..........original price almost £70,000. :y


I suggest that a CLS is easier on the eye than a Lexus, too. :y
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: cd 2.2 on 28 March 2014, 15:46:56
You guys are insomniacs!  :o  ;D

I bet the hybrid Lexus's like the one I linked to earlier could come with some hefty repair bills if the electrickery went wrong or the batteries died....  ::)  :-\

How did you guess  :D
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: omega3000 on 28 March 2014, 18:57:59
Budget for LPG  :y
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 28 March 2014, 19:04:08
Budget for LPG  :y

Wouldn't put LPG on any car of mine personally.
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: omega3000 on 28 March 2014, 19:12:40
Budget for LPG  :y

Wouldn't put LPG on any car of mine personally.

Yes they better on devils juice  :-* :)
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: TheBoy on 28 March 2014, 19:37:04
Budget for LPG  :y

Wouldn't put LPG on any car of mine personally.
Without LPG, circumstances would dictate that I don't have 2 Omegas....

...however, there are pitfalls to LPG.
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 28 March 2014, 19:55:20
Budget for LPG  :y

Wouldn't put LPG on any car of mine personally.

Yes they better on devils juice  :-* :)

My Omega's and if I where to get a LS arn't the daily car, Have a 1.5TD for the daily stuff  :y
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: TheBoy on 28 March 2014, 20:06:00
Budget for LPG  :y

Wouldn't put LPG on any car of mine personally.

Yes they better on devils juice  :-* :)

My Omega's and if I where to get a LS arn't the daily car, Have a 1.5TD for the daily stuff  :y
Ah, that's the advantage of fart-juice, it allows us to use our nice, big, comfy Omegas as daily runners, returning better running costs that that diesel Zafira of mine...
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 28 March 2014, 23:09:19
Budget for LPG  :y

Wouldn't put LPG on any car of mine personally.

Yes they better on devils juice  :-* :)

My Omega's and if I where to get a LS arn't the daily car, Have a 1.5TD for the daily stuff  :y
Ah, that's the advantage of fart-juice, it allows us to use our nice, big, comfy Omegas as daily runners, returning better running costs that that diesel Zafira of mine...

Fair enough, Whatever works best i guess.. I doubt LPG would be a viable option for me unless i knew for certain the car is 100% and would be keeping for 5+ years... Personally I don't think it makes sense to put LPG on a Omega with almost 200K that's not used daily... Regarding the Lexus, Sure I read somewhere Lexus in general are a pain to get LPG running correctly on a Lexus forum awhile ago, Could be wrong.

I like the 460, but nearly £13k is a shed load for a 7 year old posh Toyota! :P  ;)

Anyway, why were you cruising Autotrader at 03.46.36??  :o  ::)  ;D

I know nothing  ;D ...

Yeah 13k for a 7 year old may seem expensive and it is, But these big LS Lexus do have a good reputation overall for high milage reliability, Considering that LS460 was probably around 60k+ New is it expensive at 13k and dropping  :-\ .. The LS430 is probably better value for money at the moment mind.

You can buy a 7 year old Mercedes CLS 500 for £10,000..........original price almost £70,000. :y


I suggest that a CLS is easier on the eye than a Lexus, too. :y


I do like the look of the Mercedes CLS500  :y, I'm just not sure how reliable they are long term and possibly more expensive to maintain than a LS but then again its possible Mercedes parts are more readily available and cheaper, This would need looking into, Don't know anyone with such a car either tbh..... Few people i know who have owned Lexus cars they've been a reliable car for them anyway, One of which currently owns a LS430 on a "03" in a god awful colour but still a nice car he's had it coming up for 2 years I'm sure with 150,000 odd on the clock.. Think its the New Price Tag, Power, Reliability, Gadgets, Comfort, Refined.. That appeals mostly (when paying 4k+ on a car) Plus I do rather like the look of them LS430/LS460 (in a dark colour) :-X

...Seen as we seem to have moved over to LPG discussions, Any plans to LPG the V8 Merc Mr.Opti ?
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: chrisgixer on 29 March 2014, 01:11:07
Fitting lpg really requires a return in fuel saving that justifies the cost of conversion.

So it goes without saying that the car should have an appropriate number of miles left in it to see payback on the install, be mechanically sound, and that the owners is happy enough with the car to keep it long term.

There are certain marques I would NOT convert to lpg, anything ford or jag. Suspect some Range rover models.  Expect eml issues on any BMW.

Not aware of any Toyota issues though, personally. Doesn't mean there aren't any though. :-\
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: omega3000 on 29 March 2014, 10:00:04
LS 400 what you need , cheap as chips  :y
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 March 2014, 10:49:38
Budget for LPG  :y

Wouldn't put LPG on any car of mine personally.

Yes they better on devils juice  :-* :)

My Omega's and if I where to get a LS arn't the daily car, Have a 1.5TD for the daily stuff  :y
Ah, that's the advantage of fart-juice, it allows us to use our nice, big, comfy Omegas as daily runners, returning better running costs that that diesel Zafira of mine...

Fair enough, Whatever works best i guess.. I doubt LPG would be a viable option for me unless i knew for certain the car is 100% and would be keeping for 5+ years... Personally I don't think it makes sense to put LPG on a Omega with almost 200K that's not used daily... Regarding the Lexus, Sure I read somewhere Lexus in general are a pain to get LPG running correctly on a Lexus forum awhile ago, Could be wrong.

I like the 460, but nearly £13k is a shed load for a 7 year old posh Toyota! :P  ;)

Anyway, why were you cruising Autotrader at 03.46.36??  :o  ::)  ;D

I know nothing  ;D ...

Yeah 13k for a 7 year old may seem expensive and it is, But these big LS Lexus do have a good reputation overall for high milage reliability, Considering that LS460 was probably around 60k+ New is it expensive at 13k and dropping  :-\ .. The LS430 is probably better value for money at the moment mind.

You can buy a 7 year old Mercedes CLS 500 for £10,000..........original price almost £70,000. :y


I suggest that a CLS is easier on the eye than a Lexus, too. :y


I do like the look of the Mercedes CLS500  :y, I'm just not sure how reliable they are long term and possibly more expensive to maintain than a LS but then again its possible Mercedes parts are more readily available and cheaper, This would need looking into, Don't know anyone with such a car either tbh..... Few people i know who have owned Lexus cars they've been a reliable car for them anyway, One of which currently owns a LS430 on a "03" in a god awful colour but still a nice car he's had it coming up for 2 years I'm sure with 150,000 odd on the clock.. Think its the New Price Tag, Power, Reliability, Gadgets, Comfort, Refined.. That appeals mostly (when paying 4k+ on a car) Plus I do rather like the look of them LS430/LS460 (in a dark colour) :-X

...Seen as we seem to have moved over to LPG discussions, Any plans to LPG the V8 Merc Mr.Opti ?


I believe that some 'dumb bastard' here at OOF owns a CLS 500.

His name eludes me at present. :)
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 29 March 2014, 18:00:37
Budget for LPG  :y

Wouldn't put LPG on any car of mine personally.

Yes they better on devils juice  :-* :)

My Omega's and if I where to get a LS arn't the daily car, Have a 1.5TD for the daily stuff  :y
Ah, that's the advantage of fart-juice, it allows us to use our nice, big, comfy Omegas as daily runners, returning better running costs that that diesel Zafira of mine...

Fair enough, Whatever works best i guess.. I doubt LPG would be a viable option for me unless i knew for certain the car is 100% and would be keeping for 5+ years... Personally I don't think it makes sense to put LPG on a Omega with almost 200K that's not used daily... Regarding the Lexus, Sure I read somewhere Lexus in general are a pain to get LPG running correctly on a Lexus forum awhile ago, Could be wrong.

I like the 460, but nearly £13k is a shed load for a 7 year old posh Toyota! :P  ;)

Anyway, why were you cruising Autotrader at 03.46.36??  :o  ::)  ;D

I know nothing  ;D ...

Yeah 13k for a 7 year old may seem expensive and it is, But these big LS Lexus do have a good reputation overall for high milage reliability, Considering that LS460 was probably around 60k+ New is it expensive at 13k and dropping  :-\ .. The LS430 is probably better value for money at the moment mind.

You can buy a 7 year old Mercedes CLS 500 for £10,000..........original price almost £70,000. :y


I suggest that a CLS is easier on the eye than a Lexus, too. :y


I do like the look of the Mercedes CLS500  :y, I'm just not sure how reliable they are long term and possibly more expensive to maintain than a LS but then again its possible Mercedes parts are more readily available and cheaper, This would need looking into, Don't know anyone with such a car either tbh..... Few people i know who have owned Lexus cars they've been a reliable car for them anyway, One of which currently owns a LS430 on a "03" in a god awful colour but still a nice car he's had it coming up for 2 years I'm sure with 150,000 odd on the clock.. Think its the New Price Tag, Power, Reliability, Gadgets, Comfort, Refined.. That appeals mostly (when paying 4k+ on a car) Plus I do rather like the look of them LS430/LS460 (in a dark colour) :-X

...Seen as we seem to have moved over to LPG discussions, Any plans to LPG the V8 Merc Mr.Opti ?


I believe that some 'dumb bastard' here at OOF owns a CLS 500.

His name eludes me at present. :)

 ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 29 March 2014, 22:07:21

LS430 0-100mph - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHxW-NxkHRo

LS430 Exhaust Sound - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGoUV4-2qP0

That'll do pig, That'll do...   :-* ;D
Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: bigegg on 30 March 2014, 00:09:19
I've owned the Lexus GS300 for going on 8 months now, and I can honestly say that it's the best car I've ever owned.
The MV6 estate was faster and had more boot room.
the shogun had more "street presence".
The transit was more economical, both to run, and maintain.

but...
fast enough to get out of trouble
noticeable enough to attract attention
cheap enough - just had to buy a rear brake bulb (second in 15 years according to service history - must be a duff batch  ::)  ), and 30 miles on a tenner round town.

there's not a spot of rust.
there's not (and never been) a hint of trouble from mechanical or electricals.

considering it's five years older than the MV6 when I bought it:
MV6
450 purchase
300 cambelt
400 clutch slave cylinder
50 ABS ecu
100(?) HBV

=1300 quid
that was in first 12 months at 10 yrs old

GS300:
750 purchase
-150 tax (to disabled)
60 ATF fluid
1.50 brake bulb
in first 8 months
at 15 years old
=660 quid

the only two problems - one fixable, the other, realistically not -
no rear wiper, which is fixable by fitting onr from a different car
not estate/no "pass thru" rear seats" - petrol tank is at back of rear seats, so BIG job to alter

I expect th ecar to last at least another 5 years - without any work. another 15 years+ with basic servicing  :o

Title: Re: Hmmm………............
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 30 March 2014, 02:33:19
I've owned the Lexus GS300 for going on 8 months now, and I can honestly say that it's the best car I've ever owned.
The MV6 estate was faster and had more boot room.
the shogun had more "street presence".
The transit was more economical, both to run, and maintain.

but...
fast enough to get out of trouble
noticeable enough to attract attention
cheap enough - just had to buy a rear brake bulb (second in 15 years according to service history - must be a duff batch  ::)  ), and 30 miles on a tenner round town.

there's not a spot of rust.
there's not (and never been) a hint of trouble from mechanical or electricals.

considering it's five years older than the MV6 when I bought it:
MV6
450 purchase
300 cambelt
400 clutch slave cylinder
50 ABS ecu
100(?) HBV

=1300 quid
that was in first 12 months at 10 yrs old

GS300:
750 purchase
-150 tax (to disabled)
60 ATF fluid
1.50 brake bulb
in first 8 months
at 15 years old
=660 quid

the only two problems - one fixable, the other, realistically not -
no rear wiper, which is fixable by fitting onr from a different car
not estate/no "pass thru" rear seats" - petrol tank is at back of rear seats, so BIG job to alter

I expect th ecar to last at least another 5 years - without any work. another 15 years+ with basic servicing  :o

Good to know  :y

They are definitely growing on me these Lexus LS430 not the 2001/2002 the mini facelift LS430 2003-2006 shape .... One day maybe, Definitely a future Omega replacement contender in my books...

Saying that I'm more than happy with Omega's for now though and if a low milage late 3.2 Elite popped up reasonably priced I'd probably buy it  ;)