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Title: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 03 July 2014, 10:49:20
Hi ya,

Got a rear disc/pad brake job on Sunday where the piston needs TURNING in as opposed to pushing in.

I don't have the turner inner tool. Anyone got any novel ideas on what I can use without having to send 50 bucks on the proper tool. I've got a VERY large screw driver with a bloody big head on it. Will this get away with it?
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 July 2014, 10:52:02
I use a tool I got for removing disks on my angle grinder on the Ford calipers on my Westfield. It's a right PITA trying to maintain pressure on the piston and turn it at the same time, though. Next time, I'll probably just buy the proper tool, TBH.
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 July 2014, 10:58:14
Proper tool pays for itself first time you use it tbh. Mine is a cheapy which only does one way, but even that can be persuaded to work backwards... Sealey and laser both do fully universal kits :y
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: flyer 0712 on 03 July 2014, 11:01:45
Jack sealey and many other tool suppliers sell a 3/8 drive cube type wind back tool that does approx 95% of cars...whether this will suit yours i do not know,the part number is ..VS039....costs around £15.....and you can look it up on their website and just put in the part number to take a gander  :y
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: aaronjb on 03 July 2014, 11:03:38
Indeed, under £9 here: http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Brake-Piston-Cube-3-8Sq-Drive-Sealey-VS039
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Nick W on 03 July 2014, 11:05:02
The multi-part sets are available for less than £20 on EBay.
That's what I'll be buying when I need one.

Actually, at that price I'm tempted to buy one so that it's readily available.
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 July 2014, 11:23:48
The multi-part sets are available for less than £20 on EBay.
That's what I'll be buying when I need one.

Actually, at that price I'm tempted to buy one so that it's readily available.
Likewise as I suspect I might need it for the rear calipers on the Merc :-\ that said it has a similar handbrake set up to the Omega, and I think it's only required for thise calipers fitted with the self adjusting seizing integral handbrake...
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 July 2014, 11:52:53
The multi-part sets are available for less than £20 on EBay.
That's what I'll be buying when I need one.

Actually, at that price I'm tempted to buy one so that it's readily available.

That's what I have, very useful, paid for itself many times over:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAKE-CALIPER-PISTON-REWIND-WIND-BACK-TOOL-KIT-22-PIECES-car-service-tool-/181439011424?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2a3e9b9a60

Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 July 2014, 11:55:51
The multi-part sets are available for less than £20 on EBay.
That's what I'll be buying when I need one.

Actually, at that price I'm tempted to buy one so that it's readily available.
Likewise as I suspect I might need it for the rear calipers on the Merc :-\ that said it has a similar handbrake set up to the Omega, and I think it's only required for thise calipers fitted with the self adjusting seizing integral handbrake...

Yes, disc based handbrake applications with calliper based actuation.  :y

Only ever seen very early types seize or those where the brake fluid is never changed.
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 July 2014, 12:17:06
Handbrake ineffective was a guaranteed point of Mot failure on any 3 year old automatic mk3 Granada ::)
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Nick W on 03 July 2014, 12:31:53
It's so unusual to find an effective handbrake that I usually mention it to the owner! That's especially true for automatics, as they rarely get used.
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 03 July 2014, 12:43:16
Thanks for the input boys  :y
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 03 July 2014, 12:56:44
Ps, this is the caliper in question...

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Hyundai_Coupe_2.0_2004/p/car-parts/brakes/brake-hydraulics/brake-caliper/?133850011&1&7caa6f2763cdf24055e2b5c3426fe3f96582097a&000048

...Will the''cube'' in the link work on this? :)
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 July 2014, 13:01:17
Yes although for the sake of 9 pounds you could get the full kit which has all the bits you need and makes the job easier  :y
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 03 July 2014, 13:44:47
Yes although for the sake of 9 pounds you could get the full kit which has all the bits you need and makes the job easier  :y

Thanks mate  :y
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: dbug on 05 July 2014, 00:22:42
Have in the past used pliers to wind caliper pistons back in - agree correct tool makes it easier :y
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: aaronjb on 05 July 2014, 13:43:09
Ditto - a giant open ended spanner once sufficed on the MR2 when doing an emergency pad change after a track day (when I'd forgotten the tool), but the correct tool greatly reduces the amount of swearing you do! ;D
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 July 2014, 17:11:10
Long nosed pliers are also pretty good at tearing chunks out of your palms with the force a partially seized piston requires :-X
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 July 2014, 19:21:20
Ps, found this....

(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/ctit_zps2700b1c3.png) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/webbybear1/media/ctit_zps2700b1c3.png.html)

Basically, it's a bolt welded to a Honda distributor key-way (old distributor with this piece removed) and welded to the bolt. Might make myself one of these if/when I get a welder :)
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 July 2014, 19:26:50
Webby, unless you're determined to weld your fingers together :-\

Buy this...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAKE-CALIPER-PISTON-REWIND-WIND-BACK-TOOL-KIT-22-PIECES-car-service-tool-/181439011424?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2a3e9b9a60 ::)
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 July 2014, 20:02:56
Webby, unless you're determined to weld your fingers together :-\

Buy this...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAKE-CALIPER-PISTON-REWIND-WIND-BACK-TOOL-KIT-22-PIECES-car-service-tool-/181439011424?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2a3e9b9a60 ::)

LMAO I should have mentioned I already purchased the tool as per the link's above  :y

I just like making home-made tools  :y
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Nick W on 05 July 2014, 20:18:32
Webby, unless you're determined to weld your fingers together :-\

Buy this...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAKE-CALIPER-PISTON-REWIND-WIND-BACK-TOOL-KIT-22-PIECES-car-service-tool-/181439011424?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2a3e9b9a60 ::)

LMAO I should have mentioned I already purchased the tool as per the link's above  :y

I just like making home-made tools :y

After I mentioned these tools on Thursday, I ordered one. At that price, it's worth having just in case.

As for making home-made tools, I have a lathe, mill and welders, so happily make tools when there is no alternative, or the cost/time don't add up. I made a tool for adjusting the V6 cambelt eccentrics as my 2nd-hand timing set didn't come with one. I bored the worn 1/2" drive hole of a 30mm socket big enough to take the torx socket and welded a slightly bent piece of strap to it to make a custom spanner, which cost nothing and took about 20minutes. Hell, I've a mate who says the repair he did on his dad's Lamborghini calipers paid for the milling machine he'd just bought. But that's hardly the case here, I couldn't make the bits for that sort of money, let alone the time that would be required.
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: Omegatoy on 06 July 2014, 17:40:07
lol i have used a G clamp to wind them back in before now, only because i didnt have the wind back tool with me though but it works well on a vw t4 rear caliper!! :y
Title: Re: Any cheap alternatives to caliper turn-er inner tool?
Post by: TheBoy on 06 July 2014, 19:03:14
lol i have used a G clamp to wind them back in before now, only because i didnt have the wind back tool with me though but it works well on a vw t4 rear caliper!! :y
Clamps don't work too well on the ones that have to rotate back in