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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: dbug on 23 May 2015, 21:36:29
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Not been on for a while - fed up with inane comments from the keyboard warriors on here.
Thought you may be interested in pics of my new wheels, an XJ, not new but only 30K, complete with 2 year Jag warranty - collect next week from Jag main dealer.
Its a petrol (don't like weasels altho impressed with the 3 lit one I test drove) - the 5.0 lit V8 - 0-60 4.4 secs
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_5_zpsrknrsnfb.jpg)
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(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_2_zpswc4every.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_2_zpswc4every.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_10_zps7apr1ykr.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_10_zps7apr1ykr.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_11_zpslxp1rwiw.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_11_zpslxp1rwiw.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_13_zpszedmdnmc.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_13_zpszedmdnmc.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_23_zpspqv83sju.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_23_zpspqv83sju.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_29_zpspu52yxik.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_29_zpspu52yxik.jpg.html)
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Evening. Nice car. Superb rear end. :)
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They are certainly a nice car. I'm not convinced about its arse - in fact I thing the Jag designers were smoking the wrong shit when they got to that bit.
Good luck with it :y
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Evening. Nice car. Superb rear end. :)
;D, that's the thing with "art", one person will love it, the next will think its back is pig ugly ;D.
Its due to the rear styling, I think I'd prefer an XF, even if you do miss out on some of the extras.
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Very nice that :y
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Evening. Nice car. Superb rear end. :)
;D, that's the thing with "art", one person will love it, the next will think its back is pig ugly ;D.
Its due to the rear styling, I think I'd prefer an XF, even if you do miss out on some of the extras.
I too am not a lover of the rear of the XJ,I prefer the XF look,still a lovely car though and hope it serves you well.
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Evening. Nice car. Superb rear end. :)
;D, that's the thing with "art", one person will love it, the next will think its back is pig ugly ;D.
Its due to the rear styling, I think I'd prefer an XF, even if you do miss out on some of the extras.
XF is too small, and as you say way less goodies.
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Following spec received/confirmed from Jag dealer . . .
Options Fitted to this vehicle
• Satellite Navigation
• 20" Kasuga Alloy Wheels
• DAB Radio
• Heated & Cooled Front Seats
• Adaptive Headlamps
• Heated and Cooled Rear Seats
• Reverse Park Camera
• Keyless Entry
• Electric Seats with Memory
• Heated Steering Wheel
• Heated Front Screen
• 2 Year Approved Jaguar Warranty with this car
Standard Equipment
• Analogue clock
• Auto speed limiter
• Front Parking Aid
• HDD Navigation System with touch-screen and traffic message channel
• Jaguar Voice front
• Lane departure warning system
• LCD instrument dials
• Multi function trip computer
• Power boot opening and closing
• Rear parking aid with visual display
• Reversing camera
• Speed sensitive variable PAS
• Bluetooth connectivity including audio streaming
• Bowers & Wilkins 1200W premium sound-Dolby Pro II Surround w/20 speaker amp
• Dual View functionality for multimedia centre w/Whitefire emitter and 1 set of headphones
• Media interface
• Radio + MP3 compatible CD/DVD player with hard drive
• Approach Illumination
• Auto dimming rear view mirror
• Automatic headlamp activation
• Body coloured bumpers
• Elec adjustable/heated door mirrors including ground light
• Electric folding auto dimming door mirrors w/memory
• Electric front/rear windows/one touch operation
• Electric panoramic sunroof with electric sunblind
• Heated front windscreen and timer
• Heated rear window
• Laminated front side windows
• Laminated windscreen
• LED tail lights
• Rain sensor windscreen wipers
• Side power vents
• Solar control glass
• Tinted rear windows
• Twin exhaust tailpipes with chrome finishers
• 20 way driver/passenger electrically adjustable seats with driver memory
• Active front seat ventilation
• Active rear seat ventilation
• Air conditioning with 4 zone climate control
• Door puddle lights
• Driver and passenger sunvisors with illuminated vanity mirrors
• Driver's footrest
• Footwell courtesy lights front and rear
• Front centre armrest with power point and storage
• Front head restraints
• Front seats with lumbar support
• Heated front seats
• Heated rear seats
• Heated steering wheel
• Illuminated glovebox
• Interior mood lighting
• Jaguar sense
• JaguarDrive selector
• Massage function for front seats
• Premium carpet mats
• Reach/rake electric adjustable steering column + entry/exit tilt away
• Rear bench seat
• Rear centre armrest with 2 cupholders + storage
• Rear coat hooks
• Rear head restraints
• Softgrain leather trim to upper facia/door top roll/door pannier/door armrest/centre console lid
• Softgrain leather upholstery
• Stainless steel kick plates
• Steering wheel gearshift paddles
• Twin front cupholders
• Two 12V sockets in rear
• Multimedia System pack - XJ
• ABS/EBD
• Driver/Front Passenger airbags
• Electronic parking brake
• Front side airbags
• Side curtain airbags
• Three 3 point rear seatbelts
• Trac DSC (Dynamic Stability Control with 3 setting levels)
• Tyre pressure monitoring system
• WHIPS whiplash protection system - front
• Drive away door locking
• Keyless entry
• Keyless Start
• Remote central locking + deadlocks
• Ultrasonic intrusion sensing + passive sounder with battery back up
• Adaptive dynamics
• Alloy space saver spare wheel
Similar to current Jag, but with some added extras!
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Those that say they love it are being genuine. Those that pick small faults are jealous as f**k. ;D
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Those that say they love it are being genuine. Those that pick small faults are jealous as f**k. ;D
Have to say Steve you are a very wise man!! ;)
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Nice.......... :y
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Very nice indeed :y
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I do very much like those XJs, really really nice. Making the older shapes very cheap now.
I bet you get better mpg out that, than I do from my 3.2 ;D
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385 V8 or 503 supersport?
Either way very nice. They both fall into the £500+ tax bracket dont they?
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Wow! That is a beauty :y
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Nice, but still prefer the real Jags from the sixties.
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Nice, but still prefer the real Jags from the sixties.
Ah....the days when cars were made by the people who badged them. We'll call them 'traditional' jags. :)
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They are certainly a nice car. I'm not convinced about its arse - in fact I thing the Jag designers were smoking the wrong shit when they got to that bit.
Good luck with it :y
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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That's a lovely motor 8) and I hope it serves you well! :y
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Very stylish and not 'boringly germanic'.... :)
Correct engine choice too. :y
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Having owned a couple of Rover 400 saloons, with similar pig ugly rear styling, you can always live in the knowledge that you don't have to look at it when you're in it Dbug ;D
And anyone following won't see it for long either, as you disappear into the horizon.
How long you had it?
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Evening. Nice car. Superb rear end. :)
;D, that's the thing with "art", one person will love it, the next will think its back is pig ugly ;D.
Its due to the rear styling, I think I'd prefer an XF, even if you do miss out on some of the extras.
No... No. I meant, Superb rear end. ;D
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=130583.0
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Having owned a couple of Rover 400 saloons, with similar pig ugly rear styling, you can always live in the knowledge that you don't have to look at it when you're in it Dbug ;D
And anyone following won't see it for long either, as you disappear into the horizon.
How long you had it?
Not been on for a while - fed up with inane comments from the keyboard warriors on here.
Thought you may be interested in pics of my new wheels, an XJ, not new but only 30K, complete with 2 year Jag warranty - collect next week from Jag main dealer.
Its a petrol (don't like weasels altho impressed with the 3 lit one I test drove) - the 5.0 lit V8 - 0-60 4.4 secs
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_5_zpsrknrsnfb.jpg)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_1_zps2fyaem3k.jpg)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_4_zps2sjrbyhg.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_4_zps2sjrbyhg.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_2_zpswc4every.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_2_zpswc4every.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_10_zps7apr1ykr.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_10_zps7apr1ykr.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_11_zpslxp1rwiw.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_11_zpslxp1rwiw.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_13_zpszedmdnmc.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_13_zpszedmdnmc.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_23_zpspqv83sju.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_23_zpspqv83sju.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_29_zpspu52yxik.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_29_zpspu52yxik.jpg.html)
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Ah, the excitement of waiting for a "new" car :y
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Congrats ;)
Beautiful proper car, Hope she serves you well for a long time to come :y
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Just noticed something
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What is that round small white looking thing below the right side tail light? Can't be a key slot surely :-\
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Just noticed something
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_4_zps2sjrbyhg.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_4_zps2sjrbyhg.jpg.html)
What is that round small white looking thing below the right side tail light? Can't be a key slot surely :-\
Rear machine gun.
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Blimey, thats a bit nice :y
Manages to look large, modern and classy. A proper Jag. :y :y
Top banana.
Wish it was mine. :'(
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Blimey, thats a bit nice :y
Manages to look large, modern and classy. A proper Jag. :y :y
Top banana.
Wish it was mine. :'(
Exactly, just what proper Jags always did.
The nose down stance and heavy rear quarters(which have always been Jaguar's style) look good hoovering up the road.
I'd love one, but with a dark interior.
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Out of pure bizarre stylistic interest (dbug may find this interesting) the rear lamps are designed to look like cat's claws dragging downwards (look carefully you can see vertical stripes). One of them little quirks that drop into car styling. Oh, and other that I know of, the headlamps are made to echo the silhouette of an E-Type.
Terrific car love them.
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I keep coming back to this thread and looking at the pics. Its definitely growing on me.
//TB strokes chin, and ponders....
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Interestingly for many years now I've thought 'what will replace my Omega' there is, of course, no replacement. But that simple criteria of 'it's about 10-15-20 years old. Quality. Saloon. Very well specced. Comfy. Reliable' for a while I've thought that a Volvo S80 maybe. But given the quantum leap with the current XF and XJ I'm thinking that sub-£1000 luxo-barge may be one of these, one day. :)
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In my opinion the XJ look far more classy than the XF. :y
The XF is a great car but the styling is dreary and reminds of the Lexus GS300. :-\
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Lovely car :y and at 4.4 for the 0-60 sprint it's in the properly quick category, too.. that's a second faster than my M3 and in the real world you aren't going to be far behind a Lamborghini Gallardo..
..not that a gentleman Jaguar driver would ever take part in a traffic light Grand Prix, of course.
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I keep coming back to this thread and looking at the pics. Its definitely growing on me.
//TB strokes chin, and ponders....
Changed your tune on XJ's ;)
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I keep coming back to this thread and looking at the pics. Its definitely growing on me.
//TB strokes chin, and ponders....
Changed your tune on XJ's ;)
I still prefer XF's looks. But its growing on me.
Don't like the older ones. I'm not old enough for one of them
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The local Funeral Director drives one of those, in black of course! ;) Although I did spot a set of red calipers peeping out from the alloys! 8)
He must get a good deal from Jaguar as all their hearses and limos are Jags as well. :y Here's a couple of horror vids of perfectly good Jags getting butchered! :o :D ;D
http://www.funeraldirectors.uk.com/funeral-vehicles/
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very nice :y
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Very nice. :y :y :y
Rear end is growing on me, need to have a look at one in the flesh.
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All the 5.0 are supercharged or am I talking bollicks?
I was picked up in one from Dubai Airport, and politely asked the Driver to give it some, of which he obliged... I was underwhelmed........ until he said we were doing 110MPH and needed to slow down. I thought we had achieved around 60. It was sublime.
If I could afford one, I wouldn't buy one.... but, then again, maybe I would! :-\
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That does look stunning and expensive, I'm a big fan of the XF and was looking at buying one for caravan pulling......but then I found the omega and the rest will be history ;D ;D
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That does look stunning and expensive, I'm a big fan of the XF and was looking at buying one for caravan pulling......but then I found the omega and my bank balance will be history ;D ;D
::) ;D
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I keep coming back to this thread and looking at the pics. Its definitely growing on me.
//TB strokes chin, and ponders....
Land Rover/Jaguar, yes I can see why. But can it be gassed...?
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I keep coming back to this thread and looking at the pics. Its definitely growing on me.
//TB strokes chin, and ponders....
Land Rover/Jaguar, yes I can see why. But can it be gassed...?
Why?
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I keep coming back to this thread and looking at the pics. Its definitely growing on me.
//TB strokes chin, and ponders....
Land Rover/Jaguar, yes I can see why. But can it be gassed...?
Why?
Because gas is cheaper. :) ;)
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I think why was directed at other point ;)
MrsTB knows Jag/Land Rover well :)
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Just noticed something
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/NewXJ/new_image_4_zps2sjrbyhg.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/dbugit/media/NewXJ/new_image_4_zps2sjrbyhg.jpg.html)
What is that round small white looking thing below the right side tail light? Can't be a key slot surely :-\
Its a button for opening the electric boot - only works if car unlocked and alarms unarmed.
I keep coming back to this thread and looking at the pics. Its definitely growing on me.
//TB strokes chin, and ponders....
Land Rover/Jaguar, yes I can see why. But can it be gassed...?
Why?
Because gas is cheaper. :) ;)
Philistine - if you can't afford to run it as is, then buy something cheaper.
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Why, can't the valves take it? ;D
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Gorgeous car, in a great colour, well done sir!
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Why, can't the valves take it? ;D
Same engine as newer RR's, which I believe respond OK to LPG?
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From experience of owning a modern Jaguar I'd suggest that if one can't afford the petrol/diesel, then servicing costs are going to be... erm... an uncomfortable experience :D
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From experience of owning a modern Jaguar I'd suggest that if one can't afford the petrol/diesel, then servicing costs are going to be... erm... an uncomfortable experience :D
Oh you rekon I'd let any other erjit touch my jaaaaag?
....I dont need to pay someone to opps it up, I'm quite capable of doing that meself ;D (....but at least I'd then know what to put right ;) )
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Why, can't the valves take it? ;D
Same engine as newer RR's, which I believe respond OK to LPG?
Interesting.... Where the tank going? :-\
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From experience of owning a modern Jaguar I'd suggest that if one can't afford the petrol/diesel, then servicing costs are going to be... erm... an uncomfortable experience :D
Oh you rekon I'd let any other erjit touch my jaaaaag?
....I dont need to pay someone to opps it up, I'm quite capable of doing that meself ;D (....but at least I'd then know what to put right ;) )
If you'd paid £44k for it and it was under Jaguar warranty I'd suggest you only let a VAT registered garage do any work... but of course that would be entirely your call. The cost of parts alone is eye watering mind... :o
Pencil sized metal rod with plastic bush... That'll be £300+VAT sir.
*awkward silence*
Erm? EX-*******-SCUSE ME??... three hun... :o :o
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He doesn't know me very well does he ;D
Firstly I would never pay that money for a car as it's about due to depreciate by about 8k odd in the next year. Or someridiculous amount....?
Hence, any car I own will not be in warranty. Hence no eejits! Seemples. Any LPG conversion would void the warranty anyway. Obviously.
Maybe in a few years. ....or maybe a proper car, a vxr8 instead. ;)
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Will be interesting to see if these modern jaguars remain reliable into old age for sure.
I'm not a fan of LPG at all. There seems to be way too high of a correlation between "LPG" and "spares or repairs" on Ebay and the like. But whatever makes folk happy I spose.
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And yes, the XJ is currently THE worst depreciating car of all currently on sale I believe. Loadddssaa monnneyy 8) ;D
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Will be interesting to see if these modern jaguars remain reliable into old age for sure.
I'm not a fan of LPG at all. There seems to be way too high of a correlation between "LPG" and "spares or repairs" on Ebay and the like. But whatever makes folk happy I spose.
I'm a great fan, there seems to be a great correlation between running the car I actually want, which currently an omega, at a price that is more sensible. ....there are some marques I wouldn't gas like any ford, or anything French but I also wouldn't own a ford or anything French most certainly.
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And yes, the XJ is currently THE worst depreciating car of all currently on sale I believe. Loadddssaa monnneyy 8) ;D
Rub hands, save money, buy later :y
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Will be interesting to see if these modern jaguars remain reliable into old age for sure.
I'm not a fan of LPG at all. There seems to be way too high of a correlation between "LPG" and "spares or repairs" on Ebay and the like. But whatever makes folk happy I spose.
I'm a great fan, there seems to be a great correlation between running the car I actually want, which currently an omega, at a price that is more sensible. ....there are some marques I wouldn't gas like any ford, or anything French but I also wouldn't own a ford or anything French most certainly.
Round these parts, the savings are getting trimmed by the extra journeys to find fuel.
Did I mention the local BP is run by, and staffed by, effing retards?
Still, rear tyres are lasting better
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50k on LPG here, trouble free miles 8)
Cost on wallet of effective 55mpg, what is not to love?
One day the 3.2 maybe converted.
Both really need some TLC though. Just don't have the time :(
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50k on LPG here, trouble free miles 8)
Cost on wallet of effective 55mpg, what is not to love?
One day the 3.2 maybe converted.
Both really need some TLC though. Just don't have the time :(
Mine's done 180,000 odd miles on LPG since it's conversion at 50,000 odd! :y
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Still got some catching up then ;D :y :y
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Suppose you have to keep it a long time to see the return. :-\ I'm not very good with that part ;D
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Suppose you have to keep it a long time to see the return. :-\ I'm not very good with that part ;D
Payback on both of mine was about 8000 miles.
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Done about 50-55k on LPG. I wonder what the total saving us over that period...?
If I could be arsed I might work it out ;D
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Suppose you have to keep it a long time to see the return. :-\ I'm not very good with that part ;D
Depends on millage. At the time, took me around 6 months to get in profit :y
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Done about 50-55k on LPG. I wonder what the total saving us over that period...?
If I could be arsed I might work it out ;D
Roughly 4.7k I recon.
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Depending on petrol and LPG prices, and based on my annual 15k mileage, up to 2k a year at the height of fuel prices. So almost 8k ignoring the recent slump in fuel prices.
....according to this anyway :-\
http://www.drivelpg.co.uk/about-autogas/savings-calculator/
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It is not just the service costs, it is also the price of parts. And I dont think there is an equally accessible TC for JLR. I may be wrong, but even doing things yourself, the costs of something going wrong on these cars will be enormous. Plus they have a few electrical glitches. Something like plugging in a USB stick to the infotainment system causing all kinds of electrical faults. Updating SAT nav software killing the entire system and so on.
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I have no idea about LPG conversions but I assume it causes problems on top of any usual ones experienced?
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I have no idea about LPG conversions but I assume it causes problems on top of any usual ones experienced?
It can complicate matters, but get the engine in tip top condition re cam covers and ht and it should be fine with good set up.
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Cost on wallet of effective 55mpg, what is not to love?
Just to derail the thread further, as I'm planning a conversion over Christmas this year. What real mpg do you get on gas from the 2.2? Mine (auto) currently gives about 28mpg on a mixed commute. I'm anticipating 20% ish drop in mpg on gas so about 23.
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Cost on wallet of effective 55mpg, what is not to love?
Just to derail the thread further, as I'm planning a conversion over Christmas this year. What real mpg do you get on gas from the 2.2? Mine (auto) currently gives about 28mpg on a mixed commute. I'm anticipating 20% ish drop in mpg on gas so about 23.
Tunnie's 2.2 is a manual, so will fair much better in urban mpg (and thus in mixed). Plus he drives like grandma, and doesn't use the rev range (just as well, as his vapouriser is a bit small for his car, so errors back to petrol about about 4k). I suspect he's managing high 20s to low 30s on LPG.
I think your figures shouldn't be too far off to be honest, maybe not quite such a drop as 20%. Remember, you will still use petrol (warming up, when you run out of gas). I'd say a 30-35% saving on fuel bill is quite realistic.
You need to fill when nearly empty - short filling or filling when only half empty seems to severely impact MPG, I can only assume quite a lot is lost in the filling process.
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Is it double wishbone front suspension?
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I think your figures shouldn't be too far off to be honest, maybe not quite such a drop as 20%. Remember, you will still use petrol (warming up, when you run out of gas). I'd say a 30-35% saving on fuel bill is quite realistic.
You need to fill when nearly empty - short filling or filling when only half empty seems to severely impact MPG, I can only assume quite a lot is lost in the filling process.
Excellent tip, thanks. 30% Saving is great, means itll pay back in <1yr given my current mileage. Should also give me a good idea of range vs tank size. If I understand the guide correctly. Actual capacity of a tank is roughly 80% of nominal capacity?
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I think your figures shouldn't be too far off to be honest, maybe not quite such a drop as 20%. Remember, you will still use petrol (warming up, when you run out of gas). I'd say a 30-35% saving on fuel bill is quite realistic.
You need to fill when nearly empty - short filling or filling when only half empty seems to severely impact MPG, I can only assume quite a lot is lost in the filling process.
Excellent tip, thanks. 30% Saving is great, means itll pay back in <1yr given my current mileage. Should also give me a good idea of range vs tank size. If I understand the guide correctly. Actual capacity of a tank is roughly 80% of nominal capacity?
Correct, so an 80l tank accepts approx. 65l of gas when properly set up (its easy to set tank incorrectly so it takes less or more, which would need adjusting). I personally wouldn't go below an 80l tank, or if an estate the very biggest you could get, even if you have to raise floor by a couple of inches.