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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Darth Loo-knee on 27 May 2015, 00:06:36
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There is I've seen it on here ??? or was that last years :-\
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It was on here at some point a while back :y
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It was on here at some point a while back :y
As I'm on nightshift I will have a look and post a link if I find it :y
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I found it, joff :y
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=129644.0
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=129644.0
your to quick for me :y
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Golfbuddy organised the First Newent Meet... I followed on the following year :y Be a shame to see this Meet Fizzle Out.... it isn't a cheap weekend when pitch, fuel, beer and food are all taken into account I suppose.. I used to reckon on about £200... for £300 I went to Tenerife All Inclusive for a week.....
For me, the reason I won't go is Jimbob and Ljay attend. And like it or not there are more than myself that this reason is the cause of not going. A bad taste is still left in my mouth from how it was all handled etc... but ya ho life goes on :y
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Golfbuddy organised the First Newent Meet... I followed on the following year :y Be a shame to see this Meet Fizzle Out.... it isn't a cheap weekend when pitch, fuel, beer and food are all taken into account I suppose.. I used to reckon on about £200... for £300 I went to Tenerife All Inclusive for a week.....
For me, the reason I won't go is Jimbob and Ljay attend. And like it or not there are more than myself that this reason is the cause of not going. A bad taste is still left in my mouth from how it was all handled etc... but ya ho life goes on :y
I have to be honest, I would absolutely kill to go. I would love to get properly back into the OOF community. But for some reason (and it may possibly all be in my head) I just don't feel particularly welcomed :-\
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But for some reason (and it may possibly all be in my head) I just don't feel particularly welcomed :-\+1. Not in the 'clique'... :(
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Golfbuddy organised the First Newent Meet... I followed on the following year :y Be a shame to see this Meet Fizzle Out.... it isn't a cheap weekend when pitch, fuel, beer and food are all taken into account I suppose.. I used to reckon on about £200... for £300 I went to Tenerife All Inclusive for a week.....
For me, the reason I won't go is Jimbob and Ljay attend. And like it or not there are more than myself that this reason is the cause of not going. A bad taste is still left in my mouth from how it was all handled etc... but ya ho life goes on :y
Not welcomed? You didn't exactly help yourself the year you turned up though James ;D
I have to be honest, I would absolutely kill to go. I would love to get properly back into the OOF community. But for some reason (and it may possibly all be in my head) I just don't feel particularly welcomed :-\
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But for some reason (and it may possibly all be in my head) I just don't feel particularly welcomed :-\+1. Not in the 'clique'... :(
I am not sure if that is it at all. I've met TB (many times, and had a great laugh), I've met Mark DTM, same for Jimbob, Vxl, Terbert, and many, many others, and I'm sure the vast majority would be extremely friendly to me....
I just have this really strange apprehension that I won't fit in o r really be welcome.... but I genuinely can't put my finger on why!!
I hear a lot about the oof "clique" and I'm undecided as to whether it exists. I wouldn't be sure that's anything to do with how I feel
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This Clique things is a load of rubbish... when you go somewhere year afyer year you make friends....
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Golfbuddy organised the First Newent Meet... I followed on the following year :y Be a shame to see this Meet Fizzle Out.... it isn't a cheap weekend when pitch, fuel, beer and food are all taken into account I suppose.. I used to reckon on about £200... for £300 I went to Tenerife All Inclusive for a week.....
For me, the reason I won't go is Jimbob and Ljay attend. And like it or not there are more than myself that this reason is the cause of not going. A bad taste is still left in my mouth from how it was all handled etc... but ya ho life goes on :y
Not welcomed? You didn't exactly help yourself the year you turned up though James ;D
I have to be honest, I would absolutely kill to go. I would love to get properly back into the OOF community. But for some reason (and it may possibly all be in my head) I just don't feel particularly welcomed :-\
To be fair mate we are talking many, many, many years ago. At which time I was going through a hell of a time that none of you know about.
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Golfbuddy organised the First Newent Meet... I followed on the following year :y Be a shame to see this Meet Fizzle Out.... it isn't a cheap weekend when pitch, fuel, beer and food are all taken into account I suppose.. I used to reckon on about £200... for £300 I went to Tenerife All Inclusive for a week.....
For me, the reason I won't go is Jimbob and Ljay attend. And like it or not there are more than myself that this reason is the cause of not going. A bad taste is still left in my mouth from how it was all handled etc... but ya ho life goes on :y
Not welcomed? You didn't exactly help yourself the year you turned up though James ;D
I have to be honest, I would absolutely kill to go. I would love to get properly back into the OOF community. But for some reason (and it may possibly all be in my head) I just don't feel particularly welcomed :-\
To be fair mate we are talking many, many, many years ago. At which time I was going through a hell of a time that none of you know about.
In fact, we are talking about 2007/8.
7 years.
If folk feel I am unwelcome, I would rather be told straight. If that's the case, I will, gracefully disappear, from both meets and from the forum.
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If folk feel I am unwelcome, I would rather be told straight. If that's the case, I will, gracefully disappear, from both meets and from the forum.
I think your worries are completely unfounded James. ::) As far as I'm concerned you are a long standing and well respected member of this forum and I'm sure that many will agree! :y
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If folk feel I am unwelcome, I would rather be told straight. If that's the case, I will, gracefully disappear, from both meets and from the forum.
I think your worries are completely unfounded James. ::) As far as I'm concerned you are a long standing and well respected member of this forum and I'm sure that many will agree! :y
When I was 23, I was having a very hard time of stuff, and basically stormed off from the newent meet that year.
I am now 31, I have gained masses of life experience (in comparison)... but unfortunately some things are just never forgotten.
Conveniently, the masses of members I have helped, many either free of charge or for token payments over the last ten years... doesn't seem to even begin to outweigh one small mistake
It may be that, again, I am feeling a bit jaded, and isolated. I have had an enormous bereavement recently, among other things.... is it really too much to ask to want to be among a few friends, without having to worry about whether or not I fit in?
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I think your worries are completely unfounded James. ...
Likewise. :y
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I really hope so. Because I have wanted to come to a meet for ages!!!! :y
I guess at least if I get it off my chest I'll know either way!! :)
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... and basically stormed off from the newent meet that year.
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I must've missed that. The one & only time we've met was many many years ago at the fateful Lakes meet ..... the time we we were kicked off for 'stealing electric' ;D ;D
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... and basically stormed off from the newent meet that year.
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I must've missed that. The one & only time we've met was many many years ago at the fateful Lakes meet ..... the time we we were kicked off for 'stealing electric' ;D ;D
I absolutely loved that meet. I had a whale of a time. I've no idea how my clapped out 2.0 made it up there!!
I'd really like to go to something like that again :y :y
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... at the fateful Lakes meet ..... the time we we were kicked off for 'stealing electric' ;D ;D
http://oldsite.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1220560937
some names there are a blast from the past :(
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James...and anyone else....
I am a comparative 'newbie' compared to some people.
I am fortunate to be in a position to have a venue for meets, which does attract a super turnout. Because of this, I have met many members and have what I consider a great relationship with all. When you see members quite regularly, you do become friends. There will always be those that seem more 'friendly' towards some others, as they meet socially away from the forum. I personally feel I am accepted by all....and I treat all those who cross my path the same. We have banter, on here, socially away from here, too. But I am in 'no-one's pocket, as they say. I try to treat everyone the same....be it Admin or a first time newbie, or those I only see once a year. I have only met you once James, and after hearing so much about your skills, it was a pleasure to watch you at work.
Some of us are fortunate to be able to travel to meets, short or long distance, and I do, as often as I can. Because I meet some members a few times a year, I would hate being called 'in the clique'.
As the saying goes....One for all, and all for one :y
Sorry to be long winded :(
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......and I treat all those who cross my path the same. ....
Same as Mr MacKay ;) ;)
http://www.phill.co.uk/comedy/porridge/char.html :y
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
No way, Andy......that's a bit harsh ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
See....this is banter, and no offence taken. Its all light hearted. I have never met Andy B :y
Ps....you bloody wait till I do ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm kinda confused as to how / why there can be ant problems with those attending these meets.. Everyone's there for the same reason.. To share knowledge and show off their pride and joy.. Can't fathom how people can fall out with each other.. ???
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I'm kinda confused as to how / why there can be ant problems with those attending these meets.. Everyone's there for the same reason.. To share knowledge and show off their pride and joy.. Can't fathom how people can fall out with each other.. ???
Girls will be girls. ;D
Perhaps their overalls clashed :-\
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Never thought of that Doh!
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Your not alone James .. I've wanted to go to many meetings but just
put off through personal fears and feelings of being out of place :(
One particular time i was put off by a members comment .. face to face and has put me off
a bit :(
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No comment!! :-X ::) as this can only be based on each and everyone's past personal experiences with the forum and the occasional meet.
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Your not alone James .. I've wanted to go to many meetings but just
put off through personal fears and feelings of being out of place :(
One particular time i was put off by a members comment .. face to face and has put me off
a bit :(
No comment!! :-X ::)
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No comment!! :-X ::)
lmao.. chicken.. :y
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This Clique things is a load of rubbish... when you go somewhere year afyer year you make friends....
I am afraid it is not rubbish Daz and it does exist :(
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Could anyone hazard a guess why there should be animosity's at meets? Fuddles my head to read some of these comments..
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MrsGK and I both want to come to a meet, only problem is we both work 5 or 6 out of 7, so getting weekends off is tricky.
Shes at pains to show off "her" MV6... ;D
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James, and the rest who have expressed reluctance in attending a meet, some advice...
Turn up, lighten up, crack open a beer or two, chuck some burgers on the barbie and get stuck in. Humour, or the lack of it, can come over in different ways to different people over the internet and people can have very different personalities online and in person. This has often led me to wonder if I'd "fit in" with people I've "met" online, on this forum and others, many of which allow the online banter to get an awful lot more colourful than here.
In all cases, they've turned out to be a great bunch of blokes once we're a few beers in and propping up a bar / tent / kicking tyres / whatever.
In addition, having met people in person, you can appreciate their online offerings in the manner in which they would have been said face to face, which does help.
We are in the position where Newent may or may not happen depending on uptake. It would be a shame if it died a death, as meeting up face to face makes this forum stronger, in my opinion. So, to those undecided, put a foot forward and kill two birds... :y
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This Clique things is a load of rubbish... when you go somewhere year afyer year you make friends....
I am afraid it is not rubbish Daz and it does exist :(
I'm with Daz on this...
The impression of cliqueyness stems from the following...
A group of anonymous people sign upto an internet car forum. They gradually get to 'know' each other through that forum... eventually they meet in real at a gathering, such as Guffers cracking cambelt do, where a fair number of people get to actually know each other over the cars, some food and a few beers.
Of all the people attending, there will be a few who get along really well, a few who kind of join in but don't really gel with the people there, and a few who turn up expecting a zero effort free lunch and generally leave disappointed.
Having met someone in person, how you interact with that individual online might well change... such as phrases you use, seemingly odd references, comments that might be taken way out of context if you didn't know how that individual personally...
The perceived 'clique' will be the people in the first category who get along and meet up more frequently, often outside of the forum, and have become friends in the real world.
The point being, unless you make the effort to meet people, then you will always feel like an outsider. It would also be unrealistic to expect everybody to get along, but if you don't try and make an effort then you simply won't know.
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In other words, what Kevin said... :y
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I'm with Al on this one,life is what you make it, and a little effort may be needed here and there, and in all honesty since I joined the forum a few years back I have always looked on with a bit of disappointment in the fact that with so many registered ''members'', there only seems to be two or three occasions in the year when there's a chance to meet like minded owners.And let's face it, how many of us attend Jon's (The Red Baron) meet up in Burton ? or the Kent meet.....I can count on one hand actually, and we know who we are. :-X ::)
So,does the 'clique' exist? possibly...perhaps in a milder form or is it more likely that people just can't be bothered to spend a bit of cash or invest a bit of time to make the effort of turning up and socialising.I always look forward to the meets and always make time to be there, and yes I do acknowledge that others have commitments and constraints that don't allow them to be at every meet and that's completely understandable, so I guess it is what it is,and only we can change the situation by getting of our asses and making the effort and acknowledging the input of people like Chris and Tony who work their butts off to bring us the High Wycombe meet (the money's in the post Terbs ;)) and Jon,Josh,Mark and the other guys up and down the country that are interested enough to get a meet arranged.So it's no good bemoaning the fact that the meets have an unfriendly element to them,because that in truth is not the case, it's up to the individual to man up and mingle and if they won't talk to you then I'll get SWMBO to give them a slap..or two!! OR on second thoughts there are couple of them that seem to enjoy the pain so hold that thought......MAKE THE EFFORT .....USE IT OR LOSE IT!!
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Ps....you bloody wait till I do ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Don't do it folks.. I've met some of this lot and they're all weirdos.
:P :P ;)
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Don't do it folks.. I've met some of this lot and they're all weirdos.
:P :P ;)
Well - Yeah. What else did you expect? :D
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Don't do it folks.. I've met some of this lot and they're all weirdos.
:P :P ;)
Says the chap with a bright orange pick up :D
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Don't do it folks.. I've met some of this lot and they're all weirdos.
:P :P ;)
Says the chap with a bright orange pick up :D
I never said I wasn't one too.. ;D
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Don't do it folks.. I've met some of this lot and they're all weirdos.
:P :P ;)
Says the chap with a bright orange pick up :D
I never said I wasn't one too.. ;D
;D ;D ;D
Omega ownership does very strange things to even the most rational person :D
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Don't do it folks.. I've met some of this lot and they're all weirdos.
:P :P ;)
Says the chap with a bright orange pick up :D
I never said I wasn't one too.. ;D
;D ;D ;D
Omega ownership does very strange things to even the most rational person :D
Tell me about it...that's why I have got three of the blasted things sat outside. Never had that problem with other cars.
Now need a low loader, so I can get all three to meets ;D ;D
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That could put a new spin on OOF courier requests ;D
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I used to know a fella who started off as a club member (not here, elsewhere), started doing repairs, off the back of that started a business and eventually ended up getting a full size articulated lorry car transporter to take cars to meets, track days, etc etc.. ;D
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Firstly, Newent IS going ahead this year. The initial interest was quite low, so I had been privately checking with those that expressed an interest in my previous thread if they would still be interested, even if it was a very small meet. Apologies if that seems "cliquey", my intentions were to contact those who had publically shown an interest previously.
I was going to post something up tonight, as this decision was only made late last night, and I log on and find this thread. Somebody must be a mind reader ;D
I shall start a new thread about that, so I can get some numbers to the site owner.
Honestly, sincerely, everybody is welcome. There is no clique as far as I'm concerned or aware of, no matter how many times its mentioned.
JamesV6CDX - you had been to the Lakes, you know what to expect, and you know you will be welcomed in, assuming you stay long enough ;D (for others, at Newent a few years back, we saw JamesV6CDX drive in, round the back of the site (its one way), then drive straight past us and off home :o. There was, unknown to us at the time, a difference of opinion between the site owner and JamesV6CDX (was it that really wet year when the owner's mum asked us to keep the cars off the (very, very wet) grass, 2008?)). And you can expect a light hearted piss-take over it, nobody is immune from a bit of banter ;D
Long standing members will know of a difference of opinion between 3 members, hinted at earlier, that was never really resolved at the time a few years back, leaving a bad taste in a lot of member's mouths. This comes up a fair bit when we mention meets. And I guess everybody has their own view about what happened.
With hindsight, the Admin Team could have handled the situation much better at the time, but this is where we are now, and we can't turn back time. If, as a forum, we cannot move forward from this after all this time, I'm not sure if the forum has much of a future. I can understand those directly involved will never be bosom buddies, but believe they are all decent enough to manage to remain either civil or completely ignore each other. So hopefully those not directly involved can be equally mature, and try to move forward.
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Thing is Jaime the same people always go to these meets, or at least did. I do believe however if you as an adminteam had sortes it out properly and fairly those people would still be attending. Byron for instance took up the job of organising and then told me that it was virtually a joke.
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Thing is Jaime the same people always go to these meets, or at least did. I do believe however if you as an adminteam had sortes it out properly and fairly those people would still be attending.
As I said, it could and should have been handled much better than it was - not helped by the length of time it takes to get an Admin Team concensus (as you know better than most) - I know some on here think I make all the decisions and the other Admins just follow me like sheep, but you're in a better position to know that is a million miles from the truth.
If I could turn back time, I think it could be far better handled, as previously stated.
I still have a sour taste from it all, but as an official representative of the forum, knowing there is no way back, I have to look at it as water under the bridge and try to move it all on.
Byron for instance took up the job of organising and then told me that it was virtually a joke.
I don't follow? PM me if controversial :y
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Thing is Jaime the same people always go to these meets, or at least did. I do believe however if you as an adminteam had sortes it out properly and fairly those people would still be attending. Byron for instance took up the job of organising and then told me that it was virtually a joke.
Not wanting to fall out with you mate.....but you didn't attend last year and have no intention of attending this year....as I read it.....so why use a big wooden spoon....just ignore the thread or pm admin if unhappy :y :)
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Thing is Jaime the same people always go to these meets, or at least did. I do believe however if you as an adminteam had sortes it out properly and fairly those people would still be attending. Byron for instance took up the job of organising and then told me that it was virtually a joke.
Not wanting to fall out with you mate.....but you didn't attend last year and have no intention of attending this year....as I read it.....so why use a big wooden spoon....just ignore the thread or pm admin if unhappy :y :)
Yep, it's all in the distant past. Why rake it all up again? ??? ::)
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but you didn't attend last year
/Panto mode on
Oh yes he did :D
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Ok, I wasn't going to post on this thread but I have been mentioned a couple of times regarding cambelt meets and I think I must be considered part of this clique bolloks.
Firstly, the dictionary definition of a clique:
a small close-knit group of people who do not readily allow others to join them.
I defy anyone to relate this definition with anyone on this forum. This forum is one of the most frendliest in existance, indeed it was spawned from another forum where there was, if I understand correctly, rather nasty clique and hostile environment towards some. Compare that with OOF where advice is readily given, meets are advertised to everyone and open to everyone, there is a code of conduct which many companies would be jealous of, new acquaintances are made between various members on a weekly basis......the fact that some join in and others do not I think is more about personal insecurities than anything else. I dip in and out of meets for various reasons, mostly to do with work and availability but sometimes because I dont feel like it. That said, there are several members on here I would consider good friends and for whom I would drop everything to help because I know they would/have/could do the same for me. That's friendship centered around a unified interest.
Lets put this clique nonsense to bed.
Secondly, this episode that happened a few years back. Yes it was ugly, yes it may have been handled differently by all parties...myself included. Should it define certain elements of the forum today?? no. Is it a shame that it does? Yes. But then people have different ways of reacting to things, and hold on to things differently. We have a common interest but all come from very different backgroundsther they be left or right of center, north or south of some border or another....who should care, right? I have held out an olive branch in the past to try and clear the air but despite the very polite response which, I admit I did not expect, not much came of it. I hold no grudge but I do not think any less of anyone who does. As I convert and learn more and more about bhudism (yeah go on, fire away with your p!sstakes :P) I discover more about myself and my own imperfections, so who am I to judge others?
I have learnt to curb my banter, which is heavily influenced by the military and thus not fully understood by all, toward those who have never served and I Al has stopped sending bricks to Jammy for his garage rebuild ::) Unless you're a daft Stokie who likes to wear women's clothing, in which case you are fair game ;D
The first meet I went to was one I organised on a military base in Tidworth where we could work on cars using my then unit's facilities and equipment. I knew nobody personally except online, but vouched for them to get access to the base, everyone was welcome and there was no clique then and I o not feel there is one now.
This post is a lot longer than I was intending but I shall finish on a parting shot. If you feel there is a clique, come along to a meet, join in, make yourself known. I am sure that we can try and change your mind :y
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There's no clique
But if you attend a meet, not knowing a group of people who, in the main, already know each other, it might appear as being so. But you also have to make an effort to join in. At York, (maybe the 2nd meet) there were two groups that hardly moved from their tents, & then on the Monday complained here about not being shunned by the rest of us.
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Well...I don't think anyone who has attended Wycombe has been 'shunned'. I go out of my way to introduce members to each other, or inform them who is who. Everyone does their own thing...yes there are sometimes 'gatherings' but this is usually due to being involved in a 'project'. For instance at Wycombe, there are about 30 or so people counting swmbo's. We can't all stand in one group all day. People wander from A to B, and chat to whoever. If I thought that it was detrimental to the forum and members and causing conflict, I would not do any more !!!
I can't comment on Newent, not having been able to go before, But pics shown after usually show a fun time had by all :y
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There's no clique
But if you attend a meet, not knowing a group of people who, in the main, already know each other, it might appear as being so. But you also have to make an effort to join in. At York, (maybe the 2nd meet) there were two groups that hardly moved from their tents, & then on the Monday complained here about not being shunned by the rest of us.
Not being shunned. That's ok then. ;D
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Not being shunned. That's ok then. ;D
It got lost in the edit ....... ::)
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Thing is Jaime the same people always go to these meets, or at least did. I do believe however if you as an adminteam had sortes it out properly and fairly those people would still be attending. Byron for instance took up the job of organising and then told me that it was virtually a joke.
Not wanting to fall out with you mate.....but you didn't attend last year and have no intention of attending this year....as I read it.....so why use a big wooden spoon....just ignore the thread or pm admin if unhappy :y :)
just to put you right Dave. I did go last year
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Weren't you that skinny bloke with the Scottish lass who stayed chez Zoks... ::) ;D
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Weren't you that skinny bloke with the Scottish lass who stayed chez Zoks... ::) ;D
That I was ;D
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There's no clique
But if you attend a meet, not knowing a group of people who, in the main, already know each other, it might appear as being so. But you also have to make an effort to join in. At York, (maybe the 2nd meet) there were two groups that hardly moved from their tents, & then on the Monday complained here about not being shunned by the rest of us.
Was that the time I borrowed your mains cable as mine was to short? A perfect example of how helpful you were, to someone you had never met; the spirit of OOF......... :y :y
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There's no clique
But if you attend a meet, not knowing a group of people who, in the main, already know each other, it might appear as being so. But you also have to make an effort to join in. At York, (maybe the 2nd meet) there were two groups that hardly moved from their tents, & then on the Monday complained here about not being shunned by the rest of us.
Was that the time I borrowed your mains cable as mine was to short? A perfect example of how helpful you were, to someone you had never met; the spirit of OOF......... :y :y
arse kisser Vamps ;D
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I arrived late at York, think several cars were brought in as lights so could pitch the tent ;D
I think I came with a mate, think it was only a night or two. But I remember there being a 'music tent' with tunes blasting out, but most of the 'traditional' OOF folk just wanted to sit around in chairs, drink large amounts beer, while having the occasional tinker with an engine, then have a BBQ. Which is what I think the meets should be about :y
If time is on our side, try and gaffer tape a fat admin in a porta-loo. Sadly that was only achieved at one meet ::)
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There's no clique
But if you attend a meet, not knowing a group of people who, in the main, already know each other, it might appear as being so. But you also have to make an effort to join in. At York, (maybe the 2nd meet) there were two groups that hardly moved from their tents, & then on the Monday complained here about not being shunned by the rest of us.
Was that the time I borrowed your mains cable as mine was to short? A perfect example of how helpful you were, to someone you had never met; the spirit of OOF......... :y :y
arse kisser Vamps ;D
You told me that was our secret................ :D :D :D
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Thing is Jaime the same people always go to these meets, or at least did. I do believe however if you as an adminteam had sortes it out properly and fairly those people would still be attending. Byron for instance took up the job of organising and then told me that it was virtually a joke.
Not wanting to fall out with you mate.....but you didn't attend last year and have no intention of attending this year....as I read it.....so why use a big wooden spoon....just ignore the thread or pm admin if unhappy :y :)
just to put you right Dave. I did go last year
Ah yes ..,.soz my mistake