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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: STEMO on 29 January 2022, 11:30:27
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I watched a news report on sky news last night called 'Hotspots-retreat from Afghanistan' with Alex Crawford. That place really is hell on earth. It's on again tonight at nine o'clock, if you get a chance. Worth a watch if somewhat depressing.
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Watched it last night. Heartbreaking to see, but whats the answer ? :(
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Watched it last night. Heartbreaking to see, but whats the answer ? :(
Quite an unstable country, but made much worse by Biden.
There is said to be 9 million starving people including many infants. Some are selling a child or two in order to feed the rest. :-X
Some men selling a kidney to provide food for their families.
Lets go Brandon.
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Watched it last night. Heartbreaking to see, but whats the answer ? :(
The answer must be within the Afghan people themselves. The West, and East, have done their damage over centuries, with military campaigns going back to Alexander the Great. From what I have read, heard, and watched over the last few decades, no outsider has helped Afghanistan. In fact always the opposite.
But now the foreigners have been ousted by the Taliban, a bunch of ignorant farmers with big weapons, who have no idea how to run the country or use diplomacy in a way to obtain international aid, which is what is now required.
I have donated my £20 (big deal!!) to help feed the Afghan children, but the ‘leaders’ , and I do not mean the Taliban necessarily, of that country must step forward and re-build by getting all the people to go in one direction, with Women especially being treated with the respect, and given political powers, to help move towards a peaceful, educated, well organised society with everyone employed and well fed, and the weapons (and their owners) consigned to the scrap heap.
It must be left in the hands of the Afghan people, as it was for us in the distant past, to rise up and claim their democracy, but that could / will take time. ;)
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Good luck with that. :-X
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Watched it last night. Heartbreaking to see, but whats the answer ? :(
The answer must be within the Afghan people themselves. The West, and East, have done their damage over centuries, with military campaigns going back to Alexander the Great. From what I have read, heard, and watched over the last few decades, no outsider has helped Afghanistan. In fact always the opposite.
But now the foreigners have been ousted by the Taliban, a bunch of ignorant farmers with big weapons, who have no idea how to run the country or use diplomacy in a way to obtain international aid, which is what is now required.
I have donated my £20 (big deal!!) to help feed the Afghan children, but the ‘leaders’ , and I do not mean the Taliban necessarily, of that country must step forward and re-build by getting all the people to go in one direction, with Women especially being treated with the respect, and given political powers, to help move towards a peaceful, educated, well organised society with everyone employed and well fed, and the weapons (and their owners) consigned to the scrap heap.
It must be left in the hands of the Afghan people, as it was for us in the distant past, to rise up and claim their democracy, but that could / will take time. ;)
Not that easy when your belly is empty.
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Watched it last night. Heartbreaking to see, but whats the answer ? :(
The answer must be within the Afghan people themselves. The West, and East, have done their damage over centuries, with military campaigns going back to Alexander the Great. From what I have read, heard, and watched over the last few decades, no outsider has helped Afghanistan. In fact always the opposite.
But now the foreigners have been ousted by the Taliban, a bunch of ignorant farmers with big weapons, who have no idea how to run the country or use diplomacy in a way to obtain international aid, which is what is now required.
I have donated my £20 (big deal!!) to help feed the Afghan children, but the ‘leaders’ , and I do not mean the Taliban necessarily, of that country must step forward and re-build by getting all the people to go in one direction, with Women especially being treated with the respect, and given political powers, to help move towards a peaceful, educated, well organised society with everyone employed and well fed, and the weapons (and their owners) consigned to the scrap heap.
It must be left in the hands of the Afghan people, as it was for us in the distant past, to rise up and claim their democracy, but that could / will take time. ;)
Not that easy when your belly is empty.
No, but it has been done by the French and English when rising up against the political and social injustices of the time to achieve a better society.
The Afghan people, and their children, are starving already, which makes it even more likely they will summon whatever strength they have left and fight for an alternative life. What have they got to lose when death is already staring them in the face? :'(
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Unfortunately scenes like those shown in Afghanistan are nothing new have seen similar before & up close , there is no answer because it's all some cultures know, to try and bring some peace of mind to me I simply try & do the best I can for those close to me & hope that they never have to endure the cruelty of mankind.
The fact that some of our veterans are living rough in the UK is personally more important to me.
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Unfortunately scenes like those shown in Afghanistan are nothing new have seen similar before & up close , there is no answer because it's all some cultures know, to try and bring some peace of mind to me I simply try & do the best I can for those close to me & hope that they never have to endure the cruelty of mankind.
The fact that some of our veterans are living rough in the UK is personally more important to me.
Indeed
you can throw as much money as you like at trying to help such countries
It just gets taken by corrupt officials, etc and very little filters down to the poor people it was intended for :(
charity begins at home
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Unfortunately scenes like those shown in Afghanistan are nothing new have seen similar before & up close , there is no answer because it's all some cultures know, to try and bring some peace of mind to me I simply try & do the best I can for those close to me & hope that they never have to endure the cruelty of mankind.
This was the fourth time the British army has left Afghanistan after a protracted campaign. So it should come as no surprise that we left, albeit following the the US lead, as it was always going to happen. Same applies to the consequences; the Taliban, which is just a modern name for the native society, took less than a week to end up back where they were before the Western occupation, which is what they did when called the Mujahedeen fighting the Russian occupation and so on back in history.
Forcing our political and cultural structure on such places, including Africa/Arabia/Asia etc, is always going to end like this and we should have stopped trying over a century ago.
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Only problem is, China will soon be in there to fill the vacuum. :(
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They already are. They effectively hold the mineral rights to all Taliban lands. Not that you will have seen that on the 6 o'clock news.
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Only problem is, China will soon be is in there to fill the vacuum. :(
The Chinese for sure are already there lending the Taliban money in return for access to Afghanistan's natural resources like the reported huge deposits of Lithium.
The Taliban will enrich themselves and spend the rest on weapons, while the bleeding hearts of the west will pour in aid money to feed the people. ::)
Oops must type faster! ;D
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Only problem is, China will soon be in there to fill the vacuum. :(
China can supply its own opium...
Or we could just buy whatever the Afghan government is prepared to sell instead of invading again.
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Only problem is, China will soon be in there to fill the vacuum. :(
China can supply its own opium...
Or we could just buy whatever the Afghan government is prepared to sell instead of invading again.
The only thing left is labour and opium...
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Only problem is, China will soon be in there to fill the vacuum. :(
China can supply its own opium...
Or we could just buy whatever the Afghan government is prepared to sell instead of invading again.
The only thing left is labour and opium... and lithium! China has already bagsied that though. ;)
Fixed that for you Al! :)
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That's why I left it off, no one else is getting it. ;)
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Only problem is, China will soon be in there to fill the vacuum. :(
They might try. :-\
NickW's post yesterday sums it up nicely. No one seems to be able to tame the tribal ways of the Afghan people.
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They wont do it by force. It will be pumping in unlimited amounts of money, but mining the Lithium in return, and before they know it the Chinese pretty much own them.
Just the same as they are doing across Africa at the moment.
We are buying their tat, and giving them the money to buy the world.
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Not just Africa.
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Not just Africa.
Correct. There are no English chippies around here at all.
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Private schools and most Universities in the UK now float on a sea of Chinese money.
Its criminal that the Govt. have allowed it to happen.
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Private schools and most Universities in the UK now float on a sea of Chinese money.
Its criminal that the Govt. have allowed it to happen.
I wonder which government came up with this dog shit idea...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_Schools_for_the_Future
#HangTreasounousToneeeBLiar :-X
Fair play to Michael Gove for axeing it at the earliest opportunity.
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Private schools and most Universities in the UK now float on a sea of Chinese money.
Its criminal that the Govt. have allowed it to happen.
Could be worse, at least all our infrastructure and utilities are owned by the British public.
Or they were, until the Conservatives gave them away for pennies in the pound. That led to other European publicly owned utilities buying them to underwrite their own responsibilities. Trivial things like nuclear power, or the Dartford crossing, among others. That's probably the biggest political oppsup of my lifetime, that makes anything that Blair did look like a hold my beer and watch this moment at an after work party held in the garden at No10. Sorry, not party. Meeting.
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Letting Russians buy half of London wasn’t too clever either. Same thing has happened in Mediterranean resorts. Still at least sanctions can be directed at the czars billions of stolen roubles.
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Our favourite restaurant in Spain is owned by Russians, it is probably the most lavishly decorated building I have ever eaten in some of the customers look like typical mafia types , but the food is excellent & the prices are very reasonable the waitresses are absolute stunners
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In the capitalist system the money invested does not recognise nationalities, only recognising were the greatest return on investment is.
Chinese, Russian, American, French or British, or any other money in the possession of an individual or organisation is just directed to where the biggest return on capital lies. It has been like that for centuries, with obviously the targets for that investment recognising opportunity coupled to national status and the reverse; the biggest, richest nations have the investors with the biggest investment clout.
The investment seems to operate often, but not always, without recognising the politics of nations, as it is the profit potential that rules everything!
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...............................and it should be not over looked that the financial capitals of the World, in the order of importance, still reflects the strength of the West's Capitalist systems:
Rank
1 New York City
2 London
3 Hong Kong
4 Singapore
This also shows were the power and control still lies over 'foreign' money, as those countries who upset the West find out! :D ;)
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And the cost of letting these undesirables “ invest” via golden visas is immense
Malta will catch a cold. Here on the Costa del Sol we saw the mafia take over the drugs trade ( that channels much of the drugs Europe use coming in via South America and Africa) . The Italians drove the mafia out. Now the Russians have taken over from the mafia.
No probs for the mafia as they cabn go back to the feeding frenzy of the disbursement of One Seventy Five Billion euros donated by the EU.
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And the cost of letting these undesirables “ invest” via golden visas is immense
Malta will catch a cold. Here on the Costa del Sol we saw the mafia take over the drugs trade ( that channels much of the drugs Europe use coming in via South America and Africa) . The Italians drove the mafia out. Now the Russians have taken over from the mafia.
No probs for the mafia as they cabn go back to the feeding frenzy of the disbursement of One Seventy Five Billion euros donated by the EU.
Oh yes, that is far more worrying than the official investors being Chinese or Russian.
The amount of money circulating on the black markets, huge drug markets, and with the enormous international criminal activities around the World, is of a far greater concern. These are all directly damaging our societies, in whatever country you can imagine. Lives are being destroyed, and I am fairly certain in the case of Afghanistan, the country along with it's common people are being brought down to ruin. >:( >:(
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And which governments do you think facilitates these people?
And why...
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And which governments do you think facilitates these people?
And why...
I give in. Is this a quiz?
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Yes, didn’t you realise.? 20 seconds left on the clock, five lives and one lifeline.
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And which governments do you think facilitates these people?
And why...
I give in. Is this a quiz?
The Chinese and Russians. ::)