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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Lizzie Zoom on 08 February 2025, 12:44:18
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For the first time with an Omega, I need to get behind the dash to replace a light bulb.
On the way to the latest MOT, I noticed one side of the speedo display was not lite up, but a quick tap on the glass put the light back on. Thank goodness this wasn't spotted during the MOT, although when I turned on the lights to travel home, the light did not come on, until a tap again!
So, how do you get behind the dash please? ??? ???
Cannot find any OOF guide for it. ;)
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mot wouldnt flag it up but to get to the bulbs you need to remove the instrument assembly. first remove the cowling above the column and then you can reach the securing screw . instruments can be removed and bulbs replaced as required . im sure there will be a guide if req.
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mot wouldnt flag it up but to get to the bulbs you need to remove the instrument assembly. first remove the cowling above the column and then you can reach the securing screw . instruments can be removed and bulbs replaced as required . im sure there will be a guide if req.
Thanks :-* :y
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Centre air vent needs to come out too but it's a ten minute job start to finish.
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Centre air vent needs to come out too but it's a ten minute job start to finish.
Ah, right. Thanks DG :-* :y
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https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90618.0 :y
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Thanks all! :-* :y
That video Andy completed the picture for me, so thanks. :y
As stated, I have never had to get behind the dash on any of my Omega's. Escorts, Cortina's, Wolsley Hornet, Caverliars, Carltons, a Senator, yes, when I couldn't be bothered to waste time using a garage. But never an Omega, until now! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;)
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if you do it with the column cowl still in place .yes you can reach the screw but be carefull not to scratch the top of the cowling when you pull the instruments out !
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if you do it with the column cowl still in place .yes you can reach the screw but be carefull not to scratch the top of the cowling when you pull the instruments out !
Ok, thanks :y
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if you do it with the column cowl still in place .yes you can reach the screw but be carefull not to scratch the top of the cowling when you pull the instruments out !
You have to drop the wheel to its lowest position anyway. Removing the cowl is an extra 5 screws but does afford you access to place a cloth over the pivot on the column to prevent the lower screw on the cluster from dropping into it.
Also, whilst many of us wouldn't give the fiddle getting that bridging trim back in position around the upper cowl, it's really not a short cut when the aforementioned screw drops into the cowl.
Also if you have a decent reach then it might be easier to do most of the job from the passenger side.
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You may find its worth replacing all of them (3 from memory), as all the disturbance often causes old ones to fail as well.
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You may find its worth replacing all of them (3 from memory), as all the disturbance often causes old ones to fail as well.
Yep. I am going to do that TB as experience has taught me that if one goes, the others will follow. Didn't know there were 3 though, so thanks for that. I will buy some spares as well as I normally do. :D :y :y
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...and make sure you get the right wattage bulbs as it's all too easy to buy the wrong ones. Correct wattage is 3W I think. Anything brighter and the brightness is totally different to the rest of the dash illumination including the CID.
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...and make sure you get the right wattage bulbs as it's all too easy to buy the wrong ones. Correct wattage is 3W I think. Anything brighter and the brightness is totally different to the rest of the dash illumination including the CID.
Actually, that's another two/four bulbs worth changing whilst you're in there ;)
Also, you'll need to unplug the MiD/CID as you remove the cluster. Pull the cluster straight out, then roll the top towards you and you should be able to release the plug.
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...and make sure you get the right wattage bulbs as it's all too easy to buy the wrong ones. Correct wattage is 3W I think. Anything brighter and the brightness is totally different to the rest of the dash illumination including the CID.
Actually, that's another two/four bulbs worth changing whilst you're in there ;)
Also, you'll need to unplug the MiD/CID as you remove the cluster. Pull the cluster straight out, then roll the top towards you and you should be able to release the plug.
Many thanks to both of you. Hopefully I am going to buy the bulbs, and fit this week :y :y
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...and make sure you get the right wattage bulbs as it's all too easy to buy the wrong ones. Correct wattage is 3W I think. Anything brighter and the brightness is totally different to the rest of the dash illumination including the CID.
Actually, that's another two/four bulbs worth changing whilst you're in there ;)
Also, you'll need to unplug the MiD/CID as you remove the cluster. Pull the cluster straight out, then roll the top towards you and you should be able to release the plug.
No changeable bulbs in a CID, backlights built into the LCD panel.
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The others have ;)
Without knowing what's fitted...
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I believe the car has ncdcxxxx with Gid fitted. Cant remember if GID has bulbs in the back as I havent seen one for a long time. :-\
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Yep, GID has bulbs in the back :)
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All centre displays have bulbs with the exception of CIDs, as VXL V6 implied :y
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Well, the Vx dealer has stated the bulbs I require are no longer available. However, the parts manager is seeking out a supplier for the correct ones.
At the same time I wanted to order a top hat gasket for the breather; discontinued I am told!! :o :o :o But at least I have a product number to use with other suppliers....Autodoc?? ;D ;D
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Well, the Vx dealer has stated the bulbs I require are no longer available. However, the parts manager is seeking out a supplier for the correct ones.
That will be the bulb drawer at any competent motor factor. The speedo bulb is probably one of THESE (https://www.123spareparts.co.uk/car-parts/magneti-marelli/p-7483814), which is a very common part.
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yes .we dont mean to sound rude but you need to stop thinking that the dealers have any interest in our cars regardless of how helpfull they appear to be. virtually all service parts ,suspension parts ,electrical parts can be sourced easier and way cheaper at normal factors.
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yes .we dont mean to sound rude but you need to stop thinking that the dealers have any interest in our cars regardless of how helpfull they appear to be. virtually all service parts ,suspension parts ,electrical parts can be sourced easier and way cheaper at normal factors.
Yes, I know that having had to shop all over the place, and especially in Germany, for Omega parts. So often these parts are now very rare, as I found at the beginning of last year trying to source an alternator. Now I cannot find part no. 90467543, the top hat gasket/seal. No-one so far seems to have them!! Not even Autodoc or all the usual online Vx/GM/others web sites here, in Europe, nor the USA! :P :P ;(
As for being helpful, the parts manager at my Vx dealership is actually trying to source the parts I need from all over, but he admitted to me today that many Omega parts are almost gone from even Germany. He mentioned that for Vx cars it has become critical, with even Opel parts now drying up, and he is has become frustrated by it all, that started with GM disappearing.
All we can now do is just pursurvere and chase in all the corners of the parts world. :P
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Well, the Vx dealer has stated the bulbs I require are no longer available. However, the parts manager is seeking out a supplier for the correct ones.
That will be the bulb drawer at any competent motor factor. The speedo bulb is probably one of THESE (https://www.123spareparts.co.uk/car-parts/magneti-marelli/p-7483814), which is a very common part.
Thanks Nick. I will order some of those today :y :y
STOP PRESS-Now ordered from Autodoc as suggested by the web site :D ;)
If the Vx parts manager does source them as well, that can only be for the good! 8) ;D ;D :)
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yes .we dont mean to sound rude but you need to stop thinking that the dealers have any interest in our cars regardless of how helpfull they appear to be. virtually all service parts ,suspension parts ,electrical parts can be sourced easier and way cheaper at normal factors.
Yes, I know that having had to shop all over the place, and especially in Germany, for Omega parts. So often these parts are now very rare, as I found at the beginning of last year trying to source an alternator. Now I cannot find part no. 90467543, the top hat gasket/seal. No-one so far seems to have them!! Not even Autodoc or all the usual online Vx/GM/others web sites here, in Europe, nor the USA! :P :P ;(
I managed to buy a brand new top hat seal in GM packaging last week on Ebay. It was in the UK too - £5.00 plus postage. Not gloating in any way; just saying that occasionally they do crop up. Unfortunately, like rear self levelling shocks and other select parts, GM was the only source as they weren't made in the aftemarket by other parts manufacturers.
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Lizzie, please note the probably in my post! If I remember correctly, the Omega instrument panel has two different size bulbs. I would remove the panel, remove a bulb then using it as an example buy new ones from a physical shop. Replace them all, as bulbs of different brightness is really annoying.
GM selling their European operations isn't the biggest cause of Omega stock disappearing. That is time; how many manufacturers keep specific items for a vehicle that's well over twenty years old?
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Lizzie, please note the probably in my post! If I remember correctly, the Omega instrument panel has two different size bulbs. I would remove the panel, remove a bulb then using it as an example buy new ones from a physical shop. Replace them all, as bulbs of different brightness is really annoying.
GM selling their European operations isn't the biggest cause of Omega stock disappearing. That is time; how many manufacturers keep specific items for a vehicle that's well over twenty years old?
Thanks Nick. :y Yes, I did note your "probably", but decided I would buy those anyway as Autodoc have checked they will be right for my vehicle, and I pay a little extra to have the right to return if they are not. For me the risk is worthwhile, as yes, my vehicle is now 22 years old and I know I will have to seek out parts wherever I can. ::) ::) ;)
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yes .we dont mean to sound rude but you need to stop thinking that the dealers have any interest in our cars regardless of how helpfull they appear to be. virtually all service parts ,suspension parts ,electrical parts can be sourced easier and way cheaper at normal factors.
Yes, I know that having had to shop all over the place, and especially in Germany, for Omega parts. So often these parts are now very rare, as I found at the beginning of last year trying to source an alternator. Now I cannot find part no. 90467543, the top hat gasket/seal. No-one so far seems to have them!! Not even Autodoc or all the usual online Vx/GM/others web sites here, in Europe, nor the USA! :P :P ;(
I managed to buy a brand new top hat seal in GM packaging last week on Ebay. It was in the UK too - £5.00 plus postage. Not gloating in any way; just saying that occasionally they do crop up. Unfortunately, like rear self levelling shocks and other select parts, GM was the only source as they weren't made in the aftemarket by other parts manufacturers.
You were lucky there! :D :D :y
I have typed in the part number and product description multiple times now on many web sites, but even if the product is recognised, I am repeated ly told "Out of stock" ::) :-X
I will keep on trying, although one very kind OOF member, Baza, has got one and is sending it to me. I am so grateful for that, as I just do not know what will happen if we find it impossible to get this small, but vital, gasket/seal! That will happen unless we can somehow fabricate one, but I have no idea of how I could do that! :o :)
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Lizzie, please note the probably in my post! If I remember correctly, the Omega instrument panel has two different size bulbs. I would remove the panel, remove a bulb then using it as an example buy new ones from a physical shop. Replace them all, as bulbs of different brightness is really annoying.
GM selling their European operations isn't the biggest cause of Omega stock disappearing. That is time; how many manufacturers keep specific items for a vehicle that's well over twenty years old?
Thanks Nick. :y Yes, I did note your "probably", but decided I would buy those anyway as Autodoc have checked they will be right for my vehicle, and I pay a little extra to have the right to return if they are not. For me the risk is worthwhile, as yes, my vehicle is now 22 years old and I know I will have to seek out parts wherever I can. ::) ::) ;)
Just delivered, only 3 days after ordering from Autodoc in the EU, the 6 dashboard light bulbs:
(https://i.postimg.cc/9FbhCRZF/Omega-Dashboard-Bulb.jpg)
Great service yet again 8) 8) 8) Will see if they fit when the weather lets me get out there to do my car!! ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Delivering items is not great service but rather a minimum level of expectation. >:D
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Delivering items is not great service but rather a minimum level of expectation. >:D
Well, my expectations, particularly buying from individuals on the Gay of E, delivery within the stated timeframe is a bonus, seeing as all private ebay sellers are always having to be rushed to hospital, or their grans are always on deaths door and any other excuse for CBA...
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It helps to only buy from sellers who have some appreciation of the concept.of what they do.
For example, the Bini is going next week and I discovered that the purge valve connector to the cam cover had snapped. Ordered one , from a company I have used before, while I was away on Sunday and it's being delivered today.
I couldn't reasonably expect it any sooner. So that's step one. When postie delivers it and I fit it without issue that's step two. That's fundamentally all anyone can ask from a supplier.
Now, if I had arrived home yesterday afternoon to find that they had popped round on Sunday evening and fitted and washed the car, that would be exceptional and I would sing from the roof tops about how totally amazing they are. That's the difference.
If it takes a couple of days for it to turn up, that's still reasonable but if you're still waiting a week for some sort of response then that's pretty shit. And you're probably not going to use them again.
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I find companies are generally better. A pair of air filters ordered Sunday have just arrived, that was from GSF on Ebay. And delivered by Herpes, so clearly a miracle ;D. As it happens, they were to replenish stocks in the garage, so wasn't in a hurry. A pollen filter I am in more of a hurry for, but only ordered Sunday, and RM are estimating tomorrow, so that's perfectly reasonable :)
It's just a lot of the (non car related) less easy to obtain stuff I get, usual story, dog ate the homework type wasters.
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but if you're still waiting a week for some sort of response then that's pretty shit. And you're probably not going to use them again.
Much like your favourite ATP ;D. Or LZ's favourite bunch of retards, Autodoc ;D
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but if you're still waiting a week for some sort of response then that's pretty shit. And you're probably not going to use them again.
Much like your favourite ATP ;D. Or LZ's favourite bunch of retards, Autodoc ;D
Why say that TB? ::) ::)
Autodoc can supply most of the quality parts we need, when local agents cannot, at a great price, checked for Omega suitability, and with reliable delivery. I have now purchased many parts from them, which Vx cannot supply, and they have yet to let me down. Why call them retards? ??? ???
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Quality is perhaps the point of debate. ;)
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Quality is perhaps the point of debate. ;)
I never got to find out, as the useless retards never dispatched. And short of going to Germany, my only comeback was the credit card company when I couldn't get a response from Autodoc.
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Quality is perhaps the point of debate. ;)
Why? The quality of the product supplied to date is as good as the original, with a whole range of manufacturers involved for choice. For instance the bonnet support arms I fitted the other week were identical to the originals. ;)
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Visually identical does not the same a thing make.
You can make a part look like an original part but if the components within said part are not equal to those in a genuine original, then there's an increased likelihood of premature failure. Or if you're really unlucky, it won't work or fit straight out of the box.
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Like EuroShiteParts and their love of Firstline branded parts. They look ok, sometimes even fit, but guaranteed not to last the warranty period ;D
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i suppose this will end up being the way to go in the future as "original" parts supply dries up and we get what we can . obviously not all aftermarket stuff is crap and also some makes are not consistent anyway . i also read somewhere that not all oem stuff is actually the same quality as originally fitted when the car was made !. stuff like bulbs , blades fuses etc are easily obtained anywhere of differing quality and modern rubber components are universally crap ?
personally "virtually everything" i buy is from ebay and over the years ive had very few issues . certainly outweighed by the bargains ive found .
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i suppose this will end up being the way to go in the future as "original" parts supply dries up and we get what we can . obviously not all aftermarket stuff is crap and also some makes are not consistent anyway . i also read somewhere that not all oem stuff is actually the same quality as originally fitted when the car was made !. stuff like bulbs , blades fuses etc are easily obtained anywhere of differing quality and modern rubber components are universally crap ?
personally "virtually everything" i buy is from ebay and over the years ive had very few issues . certainly outweighed by the bargains ive found .
I bet for things like bulbs etc, a franchised dealer will by cheap crap, and sell on a full RRP for older cars.
I tend to be quite choosey on brands for stuff thats important (or a shit to change), though care not where I source it from as long as it's reasonably reputatable - ie, I would not by Bosch stuff from a chinky ebay seller or an unknown amazon marketplace seller....
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Likewise, I try to choose particular brands from a select number of sellers.
That said, I have just bought a couple of significant parts for the next phase of Project Proper car form a couple of sellers in Lithuania... Though if they start playing silly buggers, my GF is Lithuanian so I will get her to yell at them.
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Likewise, I try to choose particular brands from a select number of sellers.
That said, I have just bought a couple of significant parts for the next phase of Project Proper car form a couple of sellers in Lithuania... Though if they start playing silly buggers, my GF is Lithuanian so I will get her to yell at them.
Generally, I've had little trouble from Lithuanian breakers, and often the part arrives quicker than the usual ebay 'tards, so fingers crossed there will be no issue :y
One of our host girlies at work is from there, so I have picked up a few swear words and derogatory comments ;D
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Likewise although these are coming from outside of eBay, albeit via established platforms/companies. Receipts and confirmations.arrived just as quickly as they would have from eBay.
It was a bit of an experience trying to find companies to post to the UK, obviously there's likely to be taxes involved, but what I have paid including shipping is less than half what a Danish breaker is asking on eBay.co.uk for one item and about a third of what Mercedes might want for a single new one.
The new shopping list is limited to trim items and fittings. Although a pair of options specific door cards might be a challenge or involve getting creative.
But that's the accepted risk.