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Title: My ISP
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 20 January 2012, 20:28:05
I use ADSL for my Interwebby and it didnt really matter which ISP I choose, my max download is 8M due to exchange limitations, in fact it rarely goes above 6M.

The good news is tho, so my ISP informs me, is that, my local exchange has been upgraded and can now achieve speeds of upto 20M.

The even better news is, they are upgrading my service to 20M within the next 5 weeks and will be the same cost  :)

I will wait to see what happens speed wise.....
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: dbug on 20 January 2012, 20:40:20
10M  :o
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Terbs on 21 January 2012, 00:20:32
I can't suss this internet pricing lark and speed.  ???

I was on BT Option 2 at £19+ per month....getting 7.5meg out of the 8 meg possible. (I live almost on top of the Exchange..800 yards max)
I am now on BT Infinity at £18 per month...getting 35 meg out of the 40 max (which you will never get)
So how come !!!!! ???
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 January 2012, 01:24:46
You can go right off some people >:( ::) :D
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Martian on 21 January 2012, 10:16:25
I will wait to see what happens speed wise
If you regularly sync/obtain 6 Mbit on standard ADSL, you'll achieve roughly 16 Mbit when your ISP moves you over to the ADSL2/ADSL2+ platform. If you want a more accurate figure, I'll need to know what your current downstream attenuation is to do the math.

You can go right off some people >:( ::) :D
I guess those that have 100 Mbit downstream and 10 Mbit upstream piss you right off then  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: TheBoy on 21 January 2012, 12:01:40
sounds like you are being updated to WBC

you will need a adsl2 capable router
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 21 January 2012, 12:51:26
sounds like you are being updated to WBC

you will need a adsl2 capable router

On checking the model number of it, it is  :y
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: TheBoy on 21 January 2012, 18:19:48
sounds like you are being updated to WBC

you will need a adsl2 capable router

On checking the model number of it, it is  :y
mine isn't ::)
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 January 2012, 18:35:07
You can go right off some people >:( ::) :D
I guess those that have 100 Mbit downstream and 10 Mbit upstream piss you right off then  ;D ;D ;D
Considering this is quick for here ::) ::)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1721868089.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 21 January 2012, 20:30:23
sounds like you are being updated to WBC

you will need a adsl2 capable router

On checking the model number of it, it is  :y
mine isn't ::)

However if it hadnt been, i could have ordered a new router from them that would be, for the princely sum of £0.00 + £4.99 delivery.....do you want one?  ;)
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Martian on 22 January 2012, 10:35:32
Considering this is quick for here ::) ::)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1721868089.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
I posted a faster speed test result from hossy last year when I had my mobile tethered to the laptop, no wonder you're peed off if that is the best you can get.
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Lazydocker on 22 January 2012, 15:52:30
Considering this is quick for here ::) ::)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1721868089.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
I posted a faster speed test result from hossy last year when I had my mobile tethered to the laptop, no wonder you're peed off if that is the best you can get.
Indeed >:( >:( And mobile internet isn't really an option as the mobile signal is weak on all networks where I live too :'(

But I do have the advantage of living in a remote area and it's peaceful ::) :y
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: TheBoy on 22 January 2012, 16:13:51
sounds like you are being updated to WBC

you will need a adsl2 capable router

On checking the model number of it, it is  :y
mine isn't ::)

However if it hadnt been, i could have ordered a new router from them that would be, for the princely sum of £0.00 + £4.99 delivery.....do you want one?  ;)
Nah, toy routers don't cater for my, somewhat non-standard, needs...
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 22 January 2012, 18:05:10
sounds like you are being updated to WBC

you will need a adsl2 capable router

On checking the model number of it, it is  :y
mine isn't ::)

However if it hadnt been, i could have ordered a new router from them that would be, for the princely sum of £0.00 + £4.99 delivery.....do you want one?  ;)
Nah, toy routers don't cater for my, somewhat non-standard, needs...

True.....carnt see this router coping with your traffic.
Tho it is a lot better since i did the firmware upgrade on it a few weeks ago.....i seem to have a issue with the built in wifi on my netbook.....it drops speed if its more than a few feet away from the router......i think a usb wifi replacement is on the cards......
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 January 2012, 09:36:53
You can go right off some people >:( ::) :D
I guess those that have 100 Mbit downstream and 10 Mbit upstream piss you right off then  ;D ;D ;D
Considering this is quick for here ::) ::)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1721868089.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

The poor ping time is a concern though as that should not be affected by the connection speed (given its single packet), looks like there may be issues greater than just the link.
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: fiend61 on 23 January 2012, 10:05:11
hmmm i get download speed of 18.9mb   upload speed of 1.5mb
and this is being increased to 50mb soon free of charge (so they say)  :y
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 January 2012, 12:34:23
You can go right off some people >:( ::) :D
I guess those that have 100 Mbit downstream and 10 Mbit upstream piss you right off then  ;D ;D ;D
Considering this is quick for here ::) ::)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1721868089.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

The poor ping time is a concern though as that should not be affected by the connection speed (given its single packet), looks like there may be issues greater than just the link.

Normally around 60 TBH. We are about as far from the exchange as you can get as it's 2 villages away :o :o

Unfortunately it's not LLU (and isn't likely to be in the foreseeable future) and very low priority for BT to do anything with it
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 January 2012, 12:38:16
Either way, the ping test gives the network delay and this will be down to routers etc.

Even in the sticks you would expect to see pings of 20-30.

Might be worth doing a tracert for www.google.co.uk and see where the delays are occuring
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 January 2012, 12:47:35
Either way, the ping test gives the network delay and this will be down to routers etc.

Even in the sticks you would expect to see pings of 20-30.

Might be worth doing a tracert for www.google.co.uk and see where the delays are occuring
I'd love to... Can you put that into plain English please :-[

Scrub that... Googled it and have done one but I don't have the faintest idea what it means :-[
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 January 2012, 12:55:36
Just tried a ping test and got these results

(http://www.pingtest.net/result/55186447.png) (http://www.pingtest.net)
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: fiend61 on 23 January 2012, 13:04:58
opps that was wrong lol
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: fiend61 on 23 January 2012, 13:07:21
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1725156437.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
thats better  :y
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 January 2012, 13:20:50
Either way, the ping test gives the network delay and this will be down to routers etc.

Even in the sticks you would expect to see pings of 20-30.

Might be worth doing a tracert for www.google.co.uk and see where the delays are occuring
I'd love to... Can you put that into plain English please :-[

Scrub that... Googled it and have done one but I don't have the faintest idea what it means :-[

Post the tracert results so we can see the bottle neck.
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 January 2012, 13:45:51
Means nothing to me but...:

Tracing route to www-cctld.l.google.com [173.194.66.94]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  api.home [192.168.1.254]
  2    95 ms    24 ms    25 ms  213.1.173.186
  3    23 ms    24 ms    22 ms  213.1.172.161
  4    24 ms    24 ms    25 ms  213.1.69.70
  5    25 ms    25 ms    25 ms  217.32.24.233
  6    25 ms    23 ms    24 ms  217.32.24.30
  7    25 ms    25 ms    25 ms  217.32.24.178
  8    25 ms    24 ms    25 ms  109.159.249.110
  9    34 ms    35 ms    37 ms  109.159.249.39
 10    26 ms    28 ms    27 ms  peer1-xe1-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.254.98]
 11    26 ms    26 ms    27 ms  195.99.126.105
 12    27 ms    26 ms    28 ms  209.85.252.188
 13    30 ms    28 ms    28 ms  209.85.253.92
 14   134 ms    51 ms    34 ms  72.14.232.134
 15    36 ms    70 ms    33 ms  216.239.49.45
 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17    33 ms    33 ms    33 ms  we-in-f94.1e100.net [173.194.66.94]

Trace complete.

I'll be grateful for a translation! ;D
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 January 2012, 14:54:52
Looks like your BT router at the exchange is having an occasional issue.

Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 January 2012, 14:57:17
Looks like your BT router at the exchange is having an occasional issue.
So nothing I can fix? A BT issue ???
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: TheBoy on 23 January 2012, 18:43:27
You can go right off some people >:( ::) :D
I guess those that have 100 Mbit downstream and 10 Mbit upstream piss you right off then  ;D ;D ;D
Considering this is quick for here ::) ::)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1721868089.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

The poor ping time is a concern though as that should not be affected by the connection speed (given its single packet), looks like there may be issues greater than just the link.
Given his location, why that stupid speedtest.net site picked a server in Lancaster....  ....no wonder the ping is high.


Cripple - what exchange are you off, as if Woodbridge, I'm not surprised at your shite speed ;D
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 23 January 2012, 18:49:11
I guess google has mirror servers  :-\

As i just tried a tracert to google.co.uk as well, to compare figures.....i ended up at a different server  :-\

And only 10 hops to get there as opposed to LD's 17 hops

Tracing route to www-cctld.l.google.com [209.85.147.94]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    15 ms    99 ms    99 ms  dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
  2    23 ms    36 ms    23 ms  lo0-central3.ptn-ag02.plus.net [195.166.128.207]
  3    24 ms    21 ms    23 ms  gi2-20-231.ptn-gw01.plus.net [84.92.5.153]
  4    28 ms    21 ms    23 ms  72.14.223.32
  5    23 ms    23 ms    22 ms  209.85.252.188
  6    23 ms    26 ms    25 ms  209.85.253.92
  7    30 ms    30 ms    28 ms  72.14.232.134
  8    33 ms    29 ms    29 ms  209.85.251.231
  9    35 ms    33 ms    29 ms  216.239.46.221
 10    29 ms    28 ms    28 ms  bru01m01-in-f94.1e100.net [209.85.147.94]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: TheBoy on 23 January 2012, 18:51:59
google operates many datacentres for geographical resilience and balancing.  Nobody truely knows how many, as they are secretive. Believed to be in the region og 14 datacentres and about 250,000 servers
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 January 2012, 19:32:58
You can go right off some people >:( ::) :D
I guess those that have 100 Mbit downstream and 10 Mbit upstream piss you right off then  ;D ;D ;D
Considering this is quick for here ::) ::)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1721868089.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

The poor ping time is a concern though as that should not be affected by the connection speed (given its single packet), looks like there may be issues greater than just the link.
Given his location, why that stupid speedtest.net site picked a server in Lancaster....  ....no wonder the ping is high.


Cripple - what exchange are you off, as if Woodbridge, I'm not surprised at your shite speed ;D
Nope, not Woodbridge (which the pub is on and has a consistent 10meg pipe), but Eyke (which is just as far, if not further away ::))
Title: Re: My ISP
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 24 January 2012, 05:59:46
google operates many datacentres for geographical resilience and balancing.  Nobody truely knows how many, as they are secretive. Believed to be in the region og 14 datacentres and about 250,000 servers

I assume thats worldwide....