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Re: Further to Debs thread
« Reply #30 on: 28 January 2011, 10:08:16 »

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what about the thousands of successful interventions that do not get publicised?
Or of course, the thousands of 'UNSUCCESFUL' interventions that do not get publicised.. :(  The law may not be on their side, depending on which part of the law of course, but do not underestimate the power they wield when making their innacurate, and poorly punctuated reports to the family courts, punctuations that can totally turn what was said or meant, completely on it's head..
When it was alleged and supported by a consultant paedeatrician that my ex was beating my son, social services accepted her reason and took no action, as the court case moved along and each reason for his injuries was challenged, social services accepted the further FIVE reasons given for his injuries, until the extremely wise and experienced judge called her a 'liar'... Social services ?? ' HAH' !.. >:(


I can sympathise Jusme with your point of view having seen at close quarters how Social Services in Kent operate.  They have recently been judged to be the worst performing  Social Services in the UK!

In fact within Kent Police social services are renowned to be a "law unto themselves" (a quote from a senior police officer I was speaking to).  To reinforce this I personally know of a lady who lost a child to care due, in the official words of a Kent judge, and recorded in an official court  document I have seen, 8 counts of Social Services committing illegal acts.

No doubt there are many good SS workers, and I have met some of them, but their power often corrupts and they do not always act in the interests of both the parents and child, especially with "soft target" cases.  In the case of a "hard target" which I can quote in fact they took far too long to take any action at all to take children into care who were living in terrible conditions.

They have just got to improve their performance, and now Kent County Council are taking the necessary steps to resolve this. ;) ;)
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Re: Further to Debs thread
« Reply #31 on: 28 January 2011, 10:11:20 »

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what about the thousands of successful interventions that do not get publicised?
Or of course, the thousands of 'UNSUCCESFUL' interventions that do not get publicised.. :(  The law may not be on their side, depending on which part of the law of course, but do not underestimate the power they wield when making their innacurate, and poorly punctuated reports to the family courts, punctuations that can totally turn what was said or meant, completely on it's head..
When it was alleged and supported by a consultant paedeatrician that my ex was beating my son, social services accepted her reason and took no action, as the court case moved along and each reason for his injuries was challenged, social services accepted the further FIVE reasons given for his injuries, until the extremely wise and experienced judge called her a 'liar'... Social services ?? ' HAH' !.. >:(


I can sympathise Jusme with your point of view having seen at close quarters how Social Services in Kent operate.  They have recently been judged to be the worst performing  Social Services in the UK!

In fact within Kent Police social services are renowned to be a "law unto themselves" (a quote from a senior police officer I was speaking to).  To reinforce this I personaly know of a lady who lost a child to care due, in the official words of a Kent judge, and recorded in an official court  document I have seen, 8 counts of Social Services committing illegal acts.

No doubt there are many good SS workers, and I have met some of them, but their power often corrupts and they do not always act in the interests of both the parents and child, especially with "soft target" cases.  In the case of a "hard target" which I can quote in fact they took far too long to take any action at all to take children into care who were living in terrible conditions.

They have just got to improve their performance, and now Kent County Council are taking the necessary steps to resolve this. ;) ;)

Which will probably be done by setting some arbitrary "targets" which will mean the "soft" cases getting even more priority as they are "easy" and the "hard" cases sliding to the back of the queue even further.


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Re: Further to Debs thread
« Reply #32 on: 28 January 2011, 21:59:30 »

I'm definately showing my age & ignorance of current affairs here, but when I was a young man of 23 I had to get Compassionate Leave to look after my 6 siblings after my mam contracted cancer of the cervix & went into hospital 40 miles away from home for several months of Surgery & Radiotherapy. In those days you were in Hospital until Cured or Discharged & I was damned if the Family was going to be split up & sent to various childrens homes as I & my brother had been 12 years earlier & experienced at first hand a  regime as dire & as anything Charles Dickens had envisioned! My C.O. warned me as he handed over the rail warrant to keep the Civil Authorities well at arms length unless & until I felt I was not keeping my head above water! Bloody good advice then & taken to heart, & this in the days when most people still did look out for each other & not only helped but minded their own business when it was expedient to do so! Our 'Society' is, in my humble opinion in terminal decline, there seems to be no self respect, self reliance or self discipline taught these days! everything has to be had NOW, with a 'Why should I' shrug & 'easy come, easy go' mentality. No Respect either for themselves or any bugger else >:( There is no respect for any form of Authority now, & to be honest why should there be? The lunatics are running the asylum & making a bloody poor show of it whichever viewpoint you take! Social Workers are nothing more than a sticking plaster on the arsehole of the Massed Ranks of the Unedified & have always struggled to fulfill their remit because their Political Masters have never expected them to make a real difference, & therefore never provided the proper funding or backup required! Life's a bitch & then you die! Enjoy as much of it as you can & don't allow yourself to dwell too much on the bad bits! You know it makes sense  ;) ;D
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