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Dr_X

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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #15 on: 14 March 2012, 15:16:39 »

Not with polly. Doesnt matter.

Oe bushes yes, wheels must be loaded with suspension arm sitting at correct ride hight.

Cool just thought i'd mention it....
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feeutfo

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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #16 on: 14 March 2012, 15:21:55 »

If i remember i did torque bolts upto 210nm.

When did the pulling start? Before the wishbone change or after?
Why did you change wishbones?
Have brakes been inspected?

When you brake does the car drift left(?) on a level ish stearing wheel
Or does the the car go left(?) while the steering wheel turns the opposite way?
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mega3.0v6

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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #17 on: 14 March 2012, 22:42:07 »

Sorry torque was 120nm got the numbers wrong way round. I change the wishbones as the front bushes were gone and the ball joint rubber has fractured and my mot is at the end of the month so i changed both. Anyways the pulling started after the 1st set i put on. And on this set the rear bush basically went after 10 mile i'd say (ebay ones £69.99 with drop links.) Then i went and bought some from euro car parts. And i just put polys in. I have had my brakes checked and they balance up even on the rolling road to which the mot place i use have just had there rollers re-gripped. The car drives in a perfect straight line even when i take my hands off the wheel there is no pull until i brake to a stand still whilst braking there is no pull just as you are coming to a stop, which is weird cause if there was a problem with brakes or wishbone it would do it as soon as i press on the brakes. The only thing i can think of now is maybe one of the drop links is shagged not strong enough or suspension leg has a slight bend in it pulling the wheel back a bit..
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feeutfo

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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #18 on: 15 March 2012, 01:23:32 »

Does the pull start as you release brake pressure as the car comes to a halt?

I shall refrain from my usual "Lemforder only" post.

If you get stuck your welcome to bring it round here for a look see.
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mega3.0v6

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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #19 on: 15 March 2012, 09:03:03 »

No its only doing it as you are braking.
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feeutfo

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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #20 on: 15 March 2012, 10:08:41 »

So it was fine before the work...And it gave the exact same symptoms over two different sets of wishbones?

I'd be pulling the wheels off and check everything is tight including the wishbone ball joint clamp clamp on the stub axle (100nm) and that the rearward bush hasn't failed already.

I can't see drop links causing this, they work to control body roll.

...."sounds" like a less serious case of lower control arms (wishbones) failing to control the position of the front wheels, due to failed rear bush or loose bolts. But this is usually accompanied by the steering wheel pushing the opposite way to the pull.
 If the steering wheel is following the pull normally, it may just be set up. But we can't tell how severe it is through a keyboard.

Any more than that is difficult to say. As TB says given your just up the road from wheels in motion in Chesham it might be worth a chat with Tony Bones and get them to look into it after you've double checked everything, but before setup (includes castor, camber and toe on the front, and camber/toe on the rear)
 I'm not sure how Wim would charge if they found a fault needing repair first. So worth a phone call. mention oof and it's £60+vat iirc. Trouble is, spending that sort of money you need to be confident that's going to fix it.
 It would be most annoying for the fault to remain.
 
« Last Edit: 15 March 2012, 10:11:05 by chrisgixer »
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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #21 on: 15 March 2012, 10:20:44 »

It's also worth checking the brakes. Could be a seized caliper on one side causing uneven braking.

Having said that, the wheel does look visibly out of alignment. Did you get a printout of before and after alignment? Can you scan it in and post it up if so?
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mega3.0v6

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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #22 on: 15 March 2012, 13:26:06 »

I was out today and remembered when i was changing the wishbones i had the o/s track rod undone from the hub and i asked my wife to turn the steering abit when i was on the nearside and she said the steering is stuck. Looking on the o/s i see the steering arm had fell and got wedged on the ground maybe this had bent a tad or moved something on the steering idler. Just a thought and will be going out later to look at everything there.
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mega3.0v6

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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #23 on: 20 March 2012, 19:45:39 »

Ok i have been out this evening and had a look at my front wishbones rear ward bush and had my boy bang on each lock left and right to see if any play, Now there is play there from what you would expect from rubber as a movement but when i put torch light in there i could see that the bush has failed in the way that where the metal tube is the rubber has lifted folded itself hard to explain, this is on the o/s of this is the case would my car pull to the left underbraking.The parts have only been on the car since january 12 and i have since changed the front bush with polys. But i think i have been given cheap ones and not the ones i paid for but there is no stamp on there to say who they were made by or date they were manufactured. And since put in the polys i have basically voided the warranty on them (i know Dumbass) Now i am going to have to purchase another set of wishbones which i cant afford now as i have been of work for 7 weeks with back problems and need car for my 15 mile journey to work. When fitted they were torqued correctly and fitted as per instructions, shows that cheap are shite. I might just bin the car and get myself a fiesta simple and better to run.
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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #24 on: 20 March 2012, 19:53:28 »

I have just found these:

http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/VAUXHALL_OMEGA_DRIVERS_SIDE_FRONT_SUSPENSION_ARM_-_90576789T.html

It says "THIS IS A NEW VAUXHALL PART" is that a new part for a vauxhall or a genuine part i would not think they could sell that for £26.95 being a genuine part.
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mega3.0v6

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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #25 on: 20 March 2012, 19:57:27 »

I have just read the home page and they sell genuine vauxhall parts.
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Dr_X

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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #26 on: 20 March 2012, 20:01:59 »

No not genuine it has an N after the part number.........I would go for Lemforder..
« Last Edit: 20 March 2012, 20:04:26 by Dr X »
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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #27 on: 20 March 2012, 20:02:54 »

Any guesses from the populous what my next post will be...? (sigh...)
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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #28 on: 20 March 2012, 20:06:19 »

I have just read the home page and they sell genuine vauxhall parts.

and if you truly believe you can get a "Genuine Vauxhall Part" at well less than a quarter of the normal retail price ...........

.......  I've got some Government Bonds here I'll sell you ..they are worth £10,000 but you can have them for £100

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If you want a proper Lemforder part ..  www.allgermanparts.co.uk

http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/ourshop/prod_906178-Control-arm-lower-NS-Omega-B-Lemforder-27734-02-90-576-788.html
« Last Edit: 20 March 2012, 20:09:03 by Entwood »
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mega3.0v6

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Re: Front wheels
« Reply #29 on: 20 March 2012, 20:08:56 »

Cool i'll have em just uploading pic to show condition of bush.
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