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[stutiff2]

had a navman the basic one for a couple of years best thing ive ever brought you can pick them up for about 100.00 from argos the thing i have noticed a couple of times when you arive at the destination following the route it sent you it says destination on the left and it would be on the right but its no big deal but like i said about twice in 2 years but never wrong ways or turns also it has the speed cams.

[serek]

I have tom tom go 910 is very good but  if someone drive only uk the chipest tom tom is great deal

[rad cap]

tom tom never really let me down, use it a lot,  

[davlad22]

A-Z is good and cheaper

A-Z street level map of every town, city & village in the UK!?! Cheaper than a tom-tom!?!  :-? Urr Urrrrr   It still doesn't tell you which way to go. No contest. May I now welcome you to the 21st century young sir!  

[Debs.]

A-Z is good and cheaper

A-Z street level map of every town, city & village in the UK!?! Cheaper than a tom-tom!?!  :-? Urr Urrrrr   It still doesn't tell you which way to go. No contest. May I now welcome you to the 21st century young sir!  

I can see how Sat-Nav has advantages in towns/cities etc.....but out in the wilds where a 'postcode' target applies to several houses that may be many Km. apart on un-named/numbered roads (and physically on differing roads too!) the technology simply isn`t good-enough.
e.g: the Sat. Nav target for my postcode takes you to an un-adopted road on the other side of a huge hill 4 Km.`s away......I`m heartily sick of delivery drivers returning my packages to the sender; because their Sat-Nav`s don`t bring 'easy' results....I might add that the one courier company that doesn`t use Sat. Nav ALWAYS manages to make the delivery....making use of good old-fashioned common-sense and (if necessary) asking directions from locals.  

[Kevin Wood]

For what it's worth, I think the TomTom is great for the type of journey where you just want to navigate to an address by postcode taking the fastest / shortest route. If this is all you want to do get one. It's a no-brainer, IMHO.

If you want to choose your own routes, perhaps taking in some interesting roads, and plan routes in advance for using later, the Tom Tom is not for you, IMHO.

Yes, it comes with software you can use on a PC for planning routes "offline" but this just brings up a "tom tom emulation" on the screen so you get to plan routes just as awkwardly as on the tom tom itself but with the additional hassle of having to transfer the routes from the PC to the Tom Tom.

In contrast, I used to use CoPilot Live on a Pocket PC and this came with a really good mapping application you could run on a PC to enter routes. Nice, big, detailed maps of the whole of Europe to plan routes on, and then just copy them to a memory card and chuck it into the PocketPC.

Yes, the PocketPC solution made it very clumsy on the move as it's an unstable platform that has a habit of suddenly denying any knowledge of the bluetooth GPS, running out of memory, etc. It relies on more cables than the Tom Tom and is generally a pain. The CoPilot software is not desperately stable either, and, in particular I found a roundabout near Spalding that makes it throw it's toys out of the pram in a big way every time I go past there.

The convenience of the Tom Tom on the road with the offline planning capabilities of Co Pilot would be fantastic. :-/

I bought a Tom Tom before driving down to Italy last year and really missed some of the features of CoPilot.

Kevin

[Martin_1962]

A-Z is good and cheaper

A-Z street level map of every town, city & village in the UK!?! Cheaper than a tom-tom!?!  :-? Urr Urrrrr   It still doesn't tell you which way to go. No contest. May I now welcome you to the 21st century young sir!  

I can see how Sat-Nav has advantages in towns/cities etc.....but out in the wilds where a 'postcode' target applies to several houses that may be many Km. apart on un-named/numbered roads (and physically on differing roads too!) the technology simply isn`t good-enough.
e.g: the Sat. Nav target for my postcode takes you to an un-adopted road on the other side of a huge hill 4 Km.`s away......I`m heartily sick of delivery drivers returning my packages to the sender; because their Sat-Nav`s don`t bring 'easy' results....I might add that the one courier company that doesn`t use Sat. Nav ALWAYS manages to make the delivery....making use of good old-fashioned common-sense and (if necessary) asking directions from locals.  

Easy fix add two lines to your address.

Line 1 the OS grid reference
Line 2 the lat longs

[Debs.]

A-Z is good and cheaper

A-Z street level map of every town, city & village in the UK!?! Cheaper than a tom-tom!?!  :-? Urr Urrrrr   It still doesn't tell you which way to go. No contest. May I now welcome you to the 21st century young sir!  

I can see how Sat-Nav has advantages in towns/cities etc.....but out in the wilds where a 'postcode' target applies to several houses that may be many Km. apart on un-named/numbered roads (and physically on differing roads too!) the technology simply isn`t good-enough.
e.g: the Sat. Nav target for my postcode takes you to an un-adopted road on the other side of a huge hill 4 Km.`s away......I`m heartily sick of delivery drivers returning my packages to the sender; because their Sat-Nav`s don`t bring 'easy' results....I might add that the one courier company that doesn`t use Sat. Nav ALWAYS manages to make the delivery....making use of good old-fashioned common-sense and (if necessary) asking directions from locals.  

Easy fix add two lines to your address.

Line 1 the OS grid reference
Line 2 the lat longs

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  Now, that IS a darned good idea!  

[Markie]

Sat Nav...Hmmmm

Mine cost £5.99 and has never let me down.

[Kevin Wood]

A-Z is good and cheaper

A-Z street level map of every town, city & village in the UK!?! Cheaper than a tom-tom!?!  :-? Urr Urrrrr   It still doesn't tell you which way to go. No contest. May I now welcome you to the 21st century young sir!  

I can see how Sat-Nav has advantages in towns/cities etc.....but out in the wilds where a 'postcode' target applies to several houses that may be many Km. apart on un-named/numbered roads (and physically on differing roads too!) the technology simply isn`t good-enough.
e.g: the Sat. Nav target for my postcode takes you to an un-adopted road on the other side of a huge hill 4 Km.`s away......I`m heartily sick of delivery drivers returning my packages to the sender; because their Sat-Nav`s don`t bring 'easy' results....I might add that the one courier company that doesn`t use Sat. Nav ALWAYS manages to make the delivery....making use of good old-fashioned common-sense and (if necessary) asking directions from locals.  

Easy fix add two lines to your address.

Line 1 the OS grid reference
Line 2 the lat longs

[/highlight]

  Now, that IS a darned good idea!  

Net result, the van driver will look at all these strange numbers, scratch his @rse, then take it back to the depot.

It's pure laziness. What did they do before sat nav?

Kevin

[dippydave]

Silly gimmicks all of them. Try a MAP!!!

hear hear

i love maps me. make me own mind up about routes!

i read once that satnavs are doing for geography what calculators have done for maths...not actually sure if they meant in a good or bad way!! :-/

[Mr Skrunts]

Each to thier own as they say.

I love map reading etc, but I am still going for a Sat Nav.
Am just a lazy Git.  

[amba]

Recently bought a Tomtom XL after years of reading maps and using Multimap.Got the system now but cant see the screen as with windscreen mount it is too far away,so opted for a dash mount for it.Must say it is very clever,but does have the habit of taking you strange ways especially in South  London,I have had several arguements with it.

[ians]

I got a TomTom One for Christmas (well actually I didn't, so I bought one in January ).
 Amazon £99 - good deal I think.

I would be interested in how long other people get out of their battery before needing to plug it in.    I get about 2 hours (with voice on) which I think is quite short.  I don't like draping a cable across the fascia though.

Cheers
Ian

[amba]

Yes ,2 hours about right.I have hardwired mine in to ignition feed and taken wires up through side air vent.Lokks a lot neater but is a pain having to unplug and remove and then reconnect again,but better than a brick through windscreen I suppose.