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[tunnie]

All German Parts, now listing these at £43.50 each.

http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/ourshop/cat_277900-Steering-and-suspension-components.html

Still got Lemforder at £65 and now Meyle at £85 

The 2.2 really does need new wishbones, at 160k they are ordinal and a little tired 

Question is what to go for? I don't need Poly with my driving style...

Would consider OE bush, but I don't have the means to fit them. 

[TheBoy]

Poly don't make for harsher ride, just more precise control. Oh, and fit-and-forget

[tunnie]

Poly don't make for harsher ride, just more precise control. Oh, and fit-and-forget

Hummm...

Maybe could poly then, wishbone could stay in place. But surely the lower balljoints must be nackered on mine? (2.2)

Thinking for Austria, as it needs to be done. But 3 up, fully loaded.... the 3.2 maybe a better bet for those German Autobahn sections. Plus it has traction control 

But it would cost more in fuel..... Decisions Decisions 

[TheBoy]

I suspect its all knackerd, but check it, and make decision from there

[tunnie]

I suspect its all knackerd, but check it, and make decision from there

at 160k, think they will be 

[feeutfo]

As said, check rearward bushes and ball joints as a start off.

Check ball joints by pulling the wb up and down as the car is on the drive. No jacking. Just reach under. Then do all the other jack up and wiggle tests.

[tunnie]

As said, check rearward bushes and ball joints as a start off.

Check ball joints by pulling the wb up and down as the car is on the drive. No jacking. Just reach under. Then do all the other jack up and wiggle tests.

Do this closet to the wheel?

Checking poly bushes, these have come down a bit, thought they were around £50?

http://www.powerflex.co.uk/product-details/Front+Wishbone+Front+Bush/1760.html

[feeutfo]

Yes you'll see the play, of any. It's quite subtle, so any bars or levers tend to over power the play so it gets missed IME.




No direct experience with qh stuff. But they don't seem to have the quality on parts generally going by posts here.

Might be tempted by the Merle.


Although I await input from Master and Jimbob on ferurbing.

I'm quite impressed by the oomph from the chipping/air hammer I got the other day. I wonder if that might have enough go to blast out the rear bush. given a suitable drift.   and then could it force the new one in without damage.

[Lazydocker]

Oh, and in answer to your question... QH wishbones can be hit and miss - I've had some good ones for some cars and poor ones for others

[tunnie]

Oh, and in answer to your question... QH wishbones can be hit and miss - I've had some good ones for some cars and poor ones for others

Just totting up prices, £43 for budget wishbones each, cheaper to maybe poly the current ones. Then do ball joins if/when needed.

Motivation for doing them now is Austria, ordered LPG adaptors.

But now thinking should I take 3.2   

[albitz]

As said, check rearward bushes and ball joints as a start off.

Check ball joints by pulling the wb up and down as the car is on the drive. No jacking. Just reach under. Then do all the other jack up and wiggle tests.

Do this closet to the wheel?

Checking poly bushes, these have come down a bit, thought they were around £50?http://www.powerflex.co.uk/product-details/Front+Wishbone+Front+Bush/1760.html

£25.02 each inc. vat. 2 per car.Just over £50.
Plus ime powerflex wont deal with reatil customers so you have to order through one of their agents who charge around £5 delivery on top.

[tunnie]

As said, check rearward bushes and ball joints as a start off.

Check ball joints by pulling the wb up and down as the car is on the drive. No jacking. Just reach under. Then do all the other jack up and wiggle tests.

Do this closet to the wheel?

Checking poly bushes, these have come down a bit, thought they were around £50?http://www.powerflex.co.uk/product-details/Front+Wishbone+Front+Bush/1760.html

£25.02 each inc. vat. 2 per car.Just over £50.
Plus ime powerflex wont deal with reatil customers so you have to order through one of their agents who charge around £5 delivery on top.

Good point, bought some before, but exchanged them for something else, so never got fitted 

[05omegav6]

Take the 2.2

3.2 not done much, so no idea if it's up to such a long trip. Also given the 2.2s relative value, less to lose if a problem.

In the summer, 3.2 all day long, but 2.2 is just as comfortable and easier to manage given the potential weather, and therefore lower speeds and alot cheaper to fuel with lpg.

[tunnie]

I do trust 2.2 more, I "know" it had it for 7 years 

2.2:

Need to use roof box
with 3 up, fully loaded its going to struggle. But, its no race. (spending 2 days getting there)
Uses LPG so huge saving in fuel.
Has to use ferry, no train. But looking at train its over twice cost on dates I want 
Oddly I find it more comfy than 3.2, perhaps due to cloth seats.
Wishbones bushes very tired.
Lacks traction control, but its a manual.
Already a bit battered in places, so better choice for road trip.
All important iPod/MP3 input   

3.2

Full boot available.
Better able to make "progress" on those German Autobahns
Better lights
Traction Control
On paper in better shape (new wishbones/droplinks)
Will cost £65 more in fuel each, compared to 2.2

[05omegav6]

Forget making progress on the Autobahns given that if it isn't winter yet, it will be over there, so why take the risk.
Ferry part of the trip, not just a mode of transport.
2.2 wishbones will only need doing anyway, might as well justify it as preparation work.

3.2 probably best to do a few longer trips in uk before hitting the continent.

Manual more manageable in snow, presumably you've driven the 2.2 manual on snow/ice so know what to expect with it, whereas the 3.2auto might catch you unawares