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manolo

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ignition coil
« on: 18 December 2012, 14:58:37 »

First I have misfire on 1-3-5 and unstable engine in idle.
then I receive ignition coil for 1-3-5 bank from guy from forum (not new, he says that he have some problems but he can drive with)
after replace I can't start engine, looks like there is no spark on booth ignitions coil. Is it possible if coil 1-3-5 is fail that 2-4-6 also don't work?
I reconnect battery, and  now when reading fault code service light blink continuously.
old ignition coil I broke when trying to remove rubber from middle connector to spark plug  :-[
now I waiting for new ignition coil from Germany, but have no peace... did my work cause same new damage & why if 1-3-5 coil is fail car can give some sign of life with 2-4-6 coil???
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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #1 on: 18 December 2012, 16:33:14 »

In the first instance it helps everyone to know the details of your car.

It is obviously a  V6, but what year, and is it a 3.2?  The coil pack / DIS pack varies between models.

Whatever the details you may find this guide interesting if purely only for checking the lead layout.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=109316.0

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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #2 on: 18 December 2012, 16:36:06 »

sorry
omega 2.6v6 2002.y
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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #3 on: 18 December 2012, 16:42:18 »

sorry
omega 2.6v6 2002.y

Thanks! :y :y

I personally have no knowledge of the coil packs on them, but as a general comment I would suspect both coils require replacement, but first check that lead layout.  You MAY have mixed them up.

No doubt other members who know the 2.6 will be along to advise :y :y
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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #4 on: 18 December 2012, 16:58:26 »

First I have misfire on 1-3-5 and unstable engine in idle.
then I receive ignition coil for 1-3-5 bank from guy from forum (not new, he says that he have some problems but he can drive with)
after replace I can't start engine, looks like there is no spark on booth ignitions coil. Is it possible if coil 1-3-5 is fail that 2-4-6 also don't work?
I reconnect battery, and  now when reading fault code service light blink continuously.
old ignition coil I broke when trying to remove rubber from middle connector to spark plug  :-[
now I waiting for new ignition coil from Germany, but have no peace... did my work cause same new damage & why if 1-3-5 coil is fail car can give some sign of life with 2-4-6 coil???

Not sure if Im reading it right,but sounds like you were sold (or given?) a known faulty coil pack ?  :-\ That was never going to help matters.
Dont see how fitting a faulty coild pack would cause the one on the other bank to go also develop a fault. Are you sure your problem lies in the coil packs ?
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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #5 on: 18 December 2012, 17:08:43 »

As Albs says really, the coil pack provided already had faults or came from a car that already had engine issues?

Also how did you know 1-3-5 bank was at fault?

As you have a 2.6, you can do the pedal test. Details here:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90581.0

This will give you the fault codes, which will tell us more. 

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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #6 on: 18 December 2012, 17:36:15 »

..... but first check that lead layout.  You MAY have mixed them up.

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 ;) No HT leads on a 2.6 or 3.2 Lizzie  ;) ;)

Coil packs clip directly to the plugs  :y
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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #7 on: 18 December 2012, 17:39:33 »

 :y
but stil can't start  :(
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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #8 on: 18 December 2012, 17:44:26 »

:y
but stil can't start  :(

Have you read the codes, as suggested via pedal test?
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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #9 on: 18 December 2012, 18:19:42 »

..... but first check that lead layout.  You MAY have mixed them up.

 ......

 ;) No HT leads on a 2.6 or 3.2 Lizzie  ;) ;)

Coil packs clip directly to the plugs  :y

Really! :o :o

We really do learn on this site Andy! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

Thanks :y
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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #10 on: 18 December 2012, 19:49:39 »

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Really! :o :o
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That was my reaction at a show at Tatton Park, when a 3.2 owner told me his car didn't have HT leads.  ;) ;)
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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #11 on: 18 December 2012, 19:51:01 »

Pic here of o/s coilpack on 2.6. A simple multiplug type connector plugs in at the end nearest the bulkhead.


Recess where the coilpack sits in the engine.This is how it looks when you havent cleaned the breathers and your camcover gaskets have given up trying to hold back the tide.




Should have reduced the size of the top pic. :-[
« Last Edit: 18 December 2012, 19:52:59 by Albitz »
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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #12 on: 19 December 2012, 16:22:22 »

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Really! :o :o
 ......

That was my reaction at a show at Tatton Park, when a 3.2 owner told me his car didn't have HT leads.  ;) ;)

So Andy, how do those systems work then without leads?  I cannot get my head around that one! ;D ;D ;)

Just looked at the picture more closely.................so do those plastic "strips" over where the plugs are contain leads? :o :o
« Last Edit: 19 December 2012, 16:23:53 by Lizzie Zoom »
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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #13 on: 19 December 2012, 16:32:57 »

@Lizzie - Individual coil packs per cylinder ;)  Low tension in to coil pack directly onto plug
« Last Edit: 19 December 2012, 16:37:25 by dbug »
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Re: ignition coil
« Reply #14 on: 19 December 2012, 16:33:40 »

CPP - Coil Per Plug

Each unit contains 3 coils, one of each attaches directly to the top of the plug, a low tension feed from the ECU goes to each "coil pack" as they are sometimes called, the ECU triggers the low tension side, and the CPP makes the required spark at the required time.

"Coil packs" are different each side .. 1-3-5  and 2-4-6 respectively .. it's called progress ... effectively 6 ignition coils instead of one as in the old days of distributors, and if just one fails you have to replace 3 ...

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