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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #45 on: 27 December 2012, 17:24:06 »

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Wynns can take a little while, its not instant.
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« Reply #46 on: 27 December 2012, 17:39:15 »

Cam covers and timing belt can be reused Steve  :y

i'm defo of the opinion that compression and leak down tests should be done (assuming access to the equipment of course) cos then you can justify spending money on the car in the knowledge that the car's heart is in good shape.

e.g. if i do a leak down test and disciver i got a load of worn piston rings/worn bores, i would be inclined to scrap the car, strip it of all its parts to reuse (wish i'd have took loads more off ralph with hindsight) and then get another. there so bloody cheap at the moment.

sorry, slightly off tangent but just referring to your comment about being hasty with putting it up for sale  :y
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« Reply #47 on: 27 December 2012, 18:01:45 »

Cam covers and timing belt can be reused Steve  :y

i'm defo of the opinion that compression and leak down tests should be done (assuming access to the equipment of course) cos then you can justify spending money on the car in the knowledge that the car's heart is in good shape.

e.g. if i do a leak down test and disciver i got a load of worn piston rings/worn bores, i would be inclined to scrap the car, strip it of all its parts to reuse (wish i'd have took loads more off ralph with hindsight) and then get another. there so bloody cheap at the moment.

sorry, slightly off tangent but just referring to your comment about being hasty with putting it up for sale :y

If i can keep the ole girl going i will but wont be spending more money on it than its worth , ill take on the comments about giving the wynns STP a while to work and give it some beans tomorrow .
The oil level is spot on so cant really add the WYNNS treatment as it will push it over the oil level  ::)
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« Reply #48 on: 27 December 2012, 18:03:05 »

Cam covers and timing belt can be reused Steve  :y

i'm defo of the opinion that compression and leak down tests should be done (assuming access to the equipment of course) cos then you can justify spending money on the car in the knowledge that the car's heart is in good shape.

e.g. if i do a leak down test and disciver i got a load of worn piston rings/worn bores, i would be inclined to scrap the car, strip it of all its parts to reuse (wish i'd have took loads more off ralph with hindsight) and then get another. there so bloody cheap at the moment.

sorry, slightly off tangent but just referring to your comment about being hasty with putting it up for sale :y

If i can keep the ole girl going i will but wont be spending more money on it than its worth , ill take on the comments about giving the wynns STP a while to work and give it some beans tomorrow .
The oil level is spot on so cant really add the WYNNS treatment as it will push it over the oil level  ::)

its only a small bottle mate. i chucked mine in with my oil on the max  ;)
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« Reply #49 on: 27 December 2012, 18:08:54 »

i'm defo of the opinion that compression and leak down tests should be done (assuming access to the equipment of course) cos then you can justify spending money on the car in the knowledge that the car's heart is in good shape.

Devil's and advocate here but, are you totally convinced these tests will tell you a great deal given the only issue is a noisy lifter
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« Reply #50 on: 27 December 2012, 18:10:14 »

Cam covers and timing belt can be reused Steve  :y

i'm defo of the opinion that compression and leak down tests should be done (assuming access to the equipment of course) cos then you can justify spending money on the car in the knowledge that the car's heart is in good shape.

e.g. if i do a leak down test and disciver i got a load of worn piston rings/worn bores, i would be inclined to scrap the car, strip it of all its parts to reuse (wish i'd have took loads more off ralph with hindsight) and then get another. there so bloody cheap at the moment.

sorry, slightly off tangent but just referring to your comment about being hasty with putting it up for sale :y

If i can keep the ole girl going i will but wont be spending more money on it than its worth , ill take on the comments about giving the wynns STP a while to work and give it some beans tomorrow .
The oil level is spot on so cant really add the WYNNS treatment as it will push it over the oil level  ::)

its only a small bottle mate. i chucked mine in with my oil on the max ;)

 ;D

i will have to show you how to drive it properly then  ;D


I dont normally drive it by the rev counter , more to the petrol gauge  :D
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« Reply #51 on: 27 December 2012, 18:14:06 »

i'm defo of the opinion that compression and leak down tests should be done (assuming access to the equipment of course) cos then you can justify spending money on the car in the knowledge that the car's heart is in good shape.

Devil's and advocate here but, are you totally convinced these tests will tell you a great deal given the only issue is a noisy lifter

I think webby meant to test the general condition of his own cars engine mark , could be wrong ?
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« Reply #52 on: 27 December 2012, 18:41:08 »

yeah just meant from general condition. If you have run pay loads to fix a problem you would want to know that once you spent it everything else was good. If you had some worn rings for example i wouldn't then wanna spend money or time on sorting out the lifter. I'd simply scrap it and buy a new one for 500.
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« Reply #53 on: 28 December 2012, 11:00:50 »

yeah just meant from general condition. If you have run pay loads to fix a problem you would want to know that once you spent it everything else was good. If you had some worn rings for example i wouldn't then wanna spend money or time on sorting out the lifter. I'd simply scrap it and buy a new one for 500.

Worn rings burn oil dont they  ??? Not had any oil consumption issues . The car has never lacked power , in fact ive always thought the engine too powerful for the chassis  ;D Off for a run in a bit so will come back with a report of any changes  :-X
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« Reply #54 on: 28 December 2012, 11:56:07 »

yeah just meant from general condition. If you have run pay loads to fix a problem you would want to know that once you spent it everything else was good. If you had some worn rings for example i wouldn't then wanna spend money or time on sorting out the lifter. I'd simply scrap it and buy a new one for 500.

Worn rings burn oil dont they  ??? Not had any oil consumption issues . The car has never lacked power , in fact ive always thought the engine too powerful for the chassis  ;D Off for a run in a bit so will come back with a report of any changes  :-X
You need to sort the suspension out then, as its a stiff, capable chassis.
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« Reply #55 on: 28 December 2012, 12:13:55 »

IME, the STP stuff is pretty poor. At next oil change, pop some Wynns lifter treatment in, its better, but still takes a while to work.

As to using it, if its just a single lifter, using it is the best thing you can do.  If its all lifters, I'd measure oil pressure.



Reminds me, I really should check the oil pressure on the MV6, given the strop that threw 30k ago ::).

I had this same issue a few months back, i did a couple of oil/Filter changes and added this (Wynns Hydraulic Valve Lifter Treatment 325ml 76864 Oil Additive) on the 3rd change and the noise has completely gone, before i did this the knocking/tapping, whatever you want to call it, on cold start sounded like a tractor, noise now gone.
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« Reply #56 on: 28 December 2012, 12:17:24 »

IME, the STP stuff is pretty poor. At next oil change, pop some Wynns lifter treatment in, its better, but still takes a while to work.

As to using it, if its just a single lifter, using it is the best thing you can do.  If its all lifters, I'd measure oil pressure.



Reminds me, I really should check the oil pressure on the MV6, given the strop that threw 30k ago ::).

I had this same issue a few months back, i did a couple of oil/Filter changes and added this (Wynns Hydraulic Valve Lifter Treatment 325ml 76864 Oil Additive) on the 3rd change and the noise has completely gone, before i did th
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« Reply #57 on: 28 December 2012, 15:19:47 »

IME, the STP stuff is pretty poor. At next oil change, pop some Wynns lifter treatment in, its better, but still takes a while to work.

As to using it, if its just a single lifter, using it is the best thing you can do.  If its all lifters, I'd measure oil pressure.



Reminds me, I really should check the oil pressure on the MV6, given the strop that threw 30k ago ::).

I had this same issue a few months back, i did a couple of oil/Filter changes and added this (Wynns Hydraulic Valve Lifter Treatment 325ml 76864 Oil Additive) on the 3rd change and the noise has completely gone, before i did this the knocking/tapping, whatever you want to call it, on cold start sounded like a tractor, noise now gone.

A few words of hope there then Miggy  :y
Well ive done another 50 odd miles and still no change , just going to keep running it . Cant do anymore  ;)
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« Reply #58 on: 28 December 2012, 17:53:04 »

Sorry, just to clarify... like Mark says a compression test/leak down test won't help with solving a lifter problem (at least i cant see how)

but all i meant was if i was in a position where i had to spend a load of money for a particular job i'd like to make sure that there wasn't another big prob;lem lurking round the corner  :)

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« Reply #59 on: 28 December 2012, 18:22:01 »

Ralf 2  :-X
Im doing me best to keep this classic car on the road  :'(
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