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Re: Is it new O2 sensors time?
« Reply #75 on: 09 January 2013, 23:32:12 »

Thanks Martin  :y spoke to Steve. PM me day/times you're going round his this weekend as I may be able to come up and lend my services  :y :y :y

On topic again (sorry guys  ::)), it's not guaranteed but I potentially have in't future a fuel rail from a 2.6 V6. Are they exactly the same (including the injectors) as my 2.5 and can they simply be swapped over?  :)
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Re: Is it new O2 sensors time?
« Reply #76 on: 09 January 2013, 23:47:12 »

Thanks Martin  :y spoke to Steve. PM me day/times you're going round his this weekend as I may be able to come up and lend my services  :y :y :y

On topic again (sorry guys  ::)), it's not guaranteed but I potentially have in't future a fuel rail from a 2.6 V6. Are they exactly the same (including the injectors) as my 2.5 and can they simply be swapped over?  :)

2.6 rail has a different pressure regulator and the injectors are also different.
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Re: Is it new O2 sensors time?
« Reply #77 on: 09 January 2013, 23:49:16 »

Thanks Martin  :y spoke to Steve. PM me day/times you're going round his this weekend as I may be able to come up and lend my services  :y :y :y

On topic again (sorry guys  ::)), it's not guaranteed but I potentially have in't future a fuel rail from a 2.6 V6. Are they exactly the same (including the injectors) as my 2.5 and can they simply be swapped over?  :)

2.6 rail has a different pressure regulator and the injectors are also different.

Thanks for confirming mate  :y

If I could source one from another 2.5 though would a straight swap (inc. the injectors) be ok? :)
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« Reply #78 on: 09 January 2013, 23:55:10 »

Thanks Martin  :y spoke to Steve. PM me day/times you're going round his this weekend as I may be able to come up and lend my services  :y :y :y

On topic again (sorry guys  ::)), it's not guaranteed but I potentially have in't future a fuel rail from a 2.6 V6. Are they exactly the same (including the injectors) as my 2.5 and can they simply be swapped over?  :)

If you meant mine webby its a 3.0  :-\ :-\
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« Reply #79 on: 09 January 2013, 23:58:17 »

Thanks Martin  :y spoke to Steve. PM me day/times you're going round his this weekend as I may be able to come up and lend my services  :y :y :y

On topic again (sorry guys  ::)), it's not guaranteed but I potentially have in't future a fuel rail from a 2.6 V6. Are they exactly the same (including the injectors) as my 2.5 and can they simply be swapped over?  :)

If you meant mine webby its a 3.0  :-\ :-\

Haha so it is!  ::) Well in that case will a 3L fuel rail be ok to swap over  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #80 on: 10 January 2013, 10:43:17 »

Thanks Martin  :y spoke to Steve. PM me day/times you're going round his this weekend as I may be able to come up and lend my services  :y :y :y

On topic again (sorry guys  ::) ), it's not guaranteed but I potentially have in't future a fuel rail from a 2.6 V6. Are they exactly the same (including the injectors) as my 2.5 and can they simply be swapped over?  :)

If you meant mine webby its a 3.0  :-\ :-\

Haha so it is!  ::) Well in that case will a 3L fuel rail be ok to swap over  ;D ;D ;D

worth trying imo..
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« Reply #81 on: 10 January 2013, 11:10:20 »

Thanks Martin  :y spoke to Steve. PM me day/times you're going round his this weekend as I may be able to come up and lend my services  :y :y :y

On topic again (sorry guys  ::) ), it's not guaranteed but I potentially have in't future a fuel rail from a 2.6 V6. Are they exactly the same (including the injectors) as my 2.5 and can they simply be swapped over?  :)

If you meant mine webby its a 3.0  :-\ :-\

Haha so it is!  ::) Well in that case will a 3L fuel rail be ok to swap over  ;D ;D ;D

worth trying imo..

my thoughts exactly cem.

i know the practise shouldn't be to chuck parts at a car. but all these things added up i can get for a total of around £80. as my only interest is my car i consider it spending money on my hobby  ;D
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« Reply #82 on: 10 January 2013, 11:35:10 »

Thanks Martin  :y spoke to Steve. PM me day/times you're going round his this weekend as I may be able to come up and lend my services  :y :y :y

On topic again (sorry guys  ::) ), it's not guaranteed but I potentially have in't future a fuel rail from a 2.6 V6. Are they exactly the same (including the injectors) as my 2.5 and can they simply be swapped over?  :)

If you meant mine webby its a 3.0  :-\ :-\

Haha so it is!  ::) Well in that case will a 3L fuel rail be ok to swap over  ;D ;D ;D

worth trying imo..

my thoughts exactly cem.

i know the practise shouldn't be to chuck parts at a car. but all these things added up i can get for a total of around £80. as my only interest is my car i consider it spending money on my hobby  ;D

most car parts are consumables (either short term or long term) except the chasis and special items..
 
so if you are planning to use the car for a relatively long time there is nothing wrong to purchase new items and also if budget permits..  if today you dont change some parts , next time others pop and the car soon turns into a heap of junk and needs serious money and time to repair..   but UK car owners live in another world where second hand cars are sold for few pennies.. here unless you are in car trade a we expect at least 10+ years from a car when we buy it.. here cars are extremely expensive and we cant change it easily.. :-\
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Re: Is it new O2 sensors time?
« Reply #83 on: 10 January 2013, 12:11:52 »

I agree Cem. I think a lot of peeps over here have the ''scrap it and buy another'' mantality. It's just cos the second hand cars (especially migs) are so cheap.
But luckily cos i can do all the work and get trade prices and do some wheeler-dealing it wont work out too costly..... and it'll be fun to put the new parts in  :y
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« Reply #84 on: 10 January 2013, 12:45:58 »

I agree Cem. I think a lot of peeps over here have the ''scrap it and buy another'' mantality. It's just cos the second hand cars (especially migs) are so cheap.
But luckily cos i can do all the work and get trade prices and do some wheeler-dealing it wont work out too costly..... and it'll be fun to put the new parts i:y

yep.. and one can learn a lot..
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Re: Is it new O2 sensors time?
« Reply #85 on: 10 January 2013, 13:17:42 »

I take the opposite view. Original parts will be the best quality parts your car ever sees, so if they are working, leave them be. All pattern parts and some OEM ones are inferior, and second hand they will have as much wear as your current parts, give or take a little.

If you can prove them to be faulty, then, fair enough, replace them, but I wouldn't go changing things just one the supposition that they might make a difference. At best you'll only waste time and money, worst case you'll end up creating a load of new problems for yourself.

Just MHO. ;)
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Re: Is it new O2 sensors time?
« Reply #86 on: 10 January 2013, 14:07:32 »

I take the opposite view. Original parts will be the best quality parts your car ever sees, so if they are working, leave them be. All pattern parts and some OEM ones are inferior, and second hand they will have as much wear as your current parts, give or take a little.

If you can prove them to be faulty, then, fair enough, replace them, but I wouldn't go changing things just one the supposition that they might make a difference. At best you'll only waste time and money, worst case you'll end up creating a load of new problems for yourself.

Just MHO. ;)

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Re: Is it new O2 sensors time?
« Reply #87 on: 10 January 2013, 17:52:09 »

Thanks for the input guys  :y I totally understand what you mean. I had a plan to replace one thing at a time and test consumption under same driving conditions and get the results as to whether that change helped  :y

I have found a MAF from Ralf (thought I'd forgot to take it out when I scrapped Ralf) and it's the same oval fitting  8) so I'm going to stick that in as my first port of call to see if that makes any difference. If not I have a spare MAF  8) So that's item one so so far its not cost me owt.

Next thing is (I know you didn't recommend it but...) my mam took the car to a local MOT tester and parted with £5 to get the exhaust emissions results. Whether this makes a difference I don't know but it's something thats crossed off the list as the bloke said the emissions are perfect  8) here's the results.....

Fast Idle Test:       RPM-2590 (Test between 2500 and 3000 RPM)       
CO - 0.02% Vol (Max - 0.20)
HC - 9PPM (Max - 200ppm)
Lambda - 1.26 (Min - 0.970. Max - 1.030)

Natural Idle Test:    RPM - 630 (Test between 450 and 1500 RPM)
CO - 0.01% Vol (Max - 0.30)

OVERALL EXHAUST EMISSIONS - PASS

Engine tested on warm engine.

All things passed. What do we make of those figures. The guy said really good. Not sure what that Lambda test shows - can anyone tell me?  :-\
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« Reply #88 on: 10 January 2013, 17:54:29 »

is the car being used around town on short trips
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« Reply #89 on: 10 January 2013, 17:55:46 »

is the car being used around town on short trips

yes mate. sadly. on ALL town driving and short trips (lots of 2-5 mile trips) it worked out at 19.5mpg i was getting. wondering if thats actually normal
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