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[jimac]

I would like to move to the US one day but the gun thing really puts me off even to the point of putting off having a holiday there 

I have been to the states over 20 times to various places and never seen or heard any gun fire or people shot, you are more likely to get run over in london than get shot in the US. Unless you go looking to get shot

Its just the thought that in any given place you could be surrounded by guns hidden on people ready to use when they want to , same can be said anywhere of course but knowing how many have a gun in the US puts me off 

I don't think many states allow the carrying of concealed guns - they have to be on show.  Even in cars, they need to be displayed.

Most gun owners won't be carrying their guns anyway.  Most of them will locked away in drawers and cupboards at home.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Lies, dam lies and statistics...

Sounds reasonable, Mark. But, as usual, skewed to suit whatever you want it to suit. It makes no mention of the number of fatalities caused deliberately with guns as opposed to doctors who murder patients.

And fundamentaly misses out the factor of how many patients a doctor sees.

A gun in the US might only be used on average once a month where as the doctor may have seen 500 patients in that time.

[cem_devecioglu]

Lies, dam lies and statistics...

yep.. famous phrase 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics

[feeutfo]

Lies, dam lies and statistics...

yep.. famous phrase 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics

Indeed....

[kevinp58]

I would like to move to the US one day but the gun thing really puts me off even to the point of putting off having a holiday there 

I have been to the states over 20 times to various places and never seen or heard any gun fire or people shot, you are more likely to get run over in london than get shot in the US. Unless you go looking to get shot

Its just the thought that in any given place you could be surrounded by guns hidden on people ready to use when they want to , same can be said anywhere of course but knowing how many have a gun in the US puts me off 

I don't think many states allow the carrying of concealed guns - they have to be on show.  Even in cars, they need to be displayed.

Most gun owners won't be carrying their guns anyway.  Most of them will locked away in drawers and cupboards at home.

Sorry but most states require them to be concealed and not on show i:e in holster under jacket or the like, in carry case and in cars they should be kept in glove box or the like. In Texas and Arizona they do wear them on show, New York you are not allowed to carry.

[jimac]

I would like to move to the US one day but the gun thing really puts me off even to the point of putting off having a holiday there 

I have been to the states over 20 times to various places and never seen or heard any gun fire or people shot, you are more likely to get run over in london than get shot in the US. Unless you go looking to get shot

Its just the thought that in any given place you could be surrounded by guns hidden on people ready to use when they want to , same can be said anywhere of course but knowing how many have a gun in the US puts me off 

I don't think many states allow the carrying of concealed guns - they have to be on show.  Even in cars, they need to be displayed.

Most gun owners won't be carrying their guns anyway.  Most of them will locked away in drawers and cupboards at home.

Sorry but most states require them to be concealed and not on show i:e in holster under jacket or the like, in carry case and in cars they should be kept in glove box or the like. In Texas and Arizona they do wear them on show, New York you are not allowed to carry.

You're probably right, but I thought a permit needed to be granted to carry a concealed weapon in most states.

[kevinp58]

Yes you do need to get a permit to carry either concealed or on show. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

And the moral of the story is?  Don't have surgery in the US.. 

[78bex]

Give em guns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YlkKPNO2j4