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Horse meat fiasco
« on: 13 February 2013, 05:25:45 »

 ;D
Is this some sort of joke on us all? I wonder because horse meat has been eaten by joe public willingly and in the full knowledge of what  was all over the continent, and in most of the other countries of the world for donkey years (pardon the pun)! There has never been an outcry about it until some desk bound seat polishing wally has let their personal preferences and objections overrule their common sense! No doubt the usual 'diploma' played a big part in it. Problem with a diploma is that it usually accompanies a total lack of common sense and the inability to have any insight into the implications of any act they initiate.
I have eaten horse meat, and also many other types that are not commonly available for years and enjoy it all. What is the difference between eating any bof them and eating the meat of a lamb, pig, cow, deer, rabbit or any other animal? Somewhere on this planet there is an animal, even insects and grubs, being consumed as food and being enjoyed. Why should the horse be exempt? There is no logical reason at all other than the 'horsey faction' do not like it! Pet meat contains it too.
The biggest question has to be this; Not one single member of the public in any country has complained of the taste or anything else about the products that it has now transpired contained horse meat in any percentage. Surelt that alone gives credence that this is some gameplay by someone with a little authority seeking attention and seeing a massive problem where is not one?
Ah well, time to go online and contact my supplier to order more horse meat along with the other types I thoroughly enjoy!
Here is the web address if you wish to try something different;
http://www.keziefoods.co.uk/Catalogue/Exotic-Meats/Horse-Meat
The sausages are really a treat and are todays lunch with mash and onion gravy ;)
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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #1 on: 13 February 2013, 10:25:47 »

horse meat is perficly ok to eat aslong as it is slaughterd properly like all outher meat and is healthier tham beef less fat more vitermins
it tasts like beef if a bit gamier it will do you no harm and cost quite a bit less than beef
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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #2 on: 13 February 2013, 10:34:01 »

I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.

The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds. 
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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #3 on: 13 February 2013, 11:34:31 »

I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.

The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds.

And just to illustrate that point, Sainsbury's Frozen Beef Meatballs have now been withdrawn as they have been found to contain pork.
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« Reply #4 on: 13 February 2013, 11:43:56 »

I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.

The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds. 

Wasn't dog food meat found in pies a few years back. IRC am sure it was in the UK papers. The problem is not the horse meat itself as this is lower in fat and has more protein than beef but the labelling and the manufactures trying to con the public into thinking they getting 100% pure beef.
 Can't see the problem eating horse meat myself as a good bit of horse rump costs more than prime beef. Horse meat was eaten a lot in the 40's whilst the war was going on. Also it could be found on good UK restaurants menus until the late 1800's.
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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #5 on: 13 February 2013, 11:56:59 »

cant stand horse meat it gives me the trots :o
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« Reply #6 on: 13 February 2013, 11:59:32 »

cant stand horse meat it gives me the trots :o
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« Reply #7 on: 13 February 2013, 12:03:43 »

I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.

The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds. 

Wasn't dog food meat found in pies a few years back. IRC am sure it was in the UK papers. The problem is not the horse meat itself as this is lower in fat and has more protein than beef but the labelling and the manufactures trying to con the public into thinking they getting 100% pure beef.
 Can't see the problem eating horse meat myself as a good bit of horse rump costs more than prime beef. Horse meat was eaten a lot in the 40's whilst the war was going on. Also it could be found on good UK restaurants menus until the late 1800's.

From what I understand, it is the manufacturers themselves that have been conned...by some dodgy Eastern European abbatoirs.
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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #8 on: 13 February 2013, 12:12:55 »

 also in yorkshire and wales as per the raids last night
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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #9 on: 13 February 2013, 12:19:48 »

I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.

The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds. 

Wasn't dog food meat found in pies a few years back. IRC am sure it was in the UK papers. The problem is not the horse meat itself as this is lower in fat and has more protein than beef but the labelling and the manufactures trying to con the public into thinking they getting 100% pure beef.
 Can't see the problem eating horse meat myself as a good bit of horse rump costs more than prime beef. Horse meat was eaten a lot in the 40's whilst the war was going on. Also it could be found on good UK restaurants menus until the late 1800's.

From what I understand, it is the manufacturers themselves that have been conned...by some dodgy Eastern European abbatoirs.

It's the suppliers like Findus that have been conned by the manufactures. This is caused by companies wanting goods made as cheaply as possible, so to get them made cheaply they go to countries that have lower overheads.  The problem is companies like Findus have been very laxed with their quality checks after delivery of the goods to their warehouses. The products are made in a lot of the Eastern European states and some in Germany and France Then shipped worldwide.
Always said Welsh lamb tasted funny
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« Reply #10 on: 13 February 2013, 12:39:54 »

I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.

The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds. 

Wasn't dog food meat found in pies a few years back. IRC am sure it was in the UK papers. The problem is not the horse meat itself as this is lower in fat and has more protein than beef but the labelling and the manufactures trying to con the public into thinking they getting 100% pure beef.
 Can't see the problem eating horse meat myself as a good bit of horse rump costs more than prime beef. Horse meat was eaten a lot in the 40's whilst the war was going on. Also it could be found on good UK restaurants menus until the late 1800's.

From what I understand, it is the manufacturers themselves that have been conned...by some dodgy Eastern European abbatoirs.

It's the suppliers like Findus that have been conned by the manufactures. This is caused by companies wanting goods made as cheaply as possible, so to get them made cheaply they go to countries that have lower overheads.  The problem is companies like Findus have been very laxed with their quality checks after delivery of the goods to their warehouses. The products are made in a lot of the Eastern European states and some in Germany and France Then shipped worldwide.
Always said Welsh lamb tasted funny

In fairness, most food companies do not have DNA testing capabilities and, even if they did, it would not be practical to test each parcel of each consignment. The problem lies with the abbatoirs. Much simpler to ensure that horse meat does not get mixed into the beef chain there than expecting suppliers to DNA test. I think the laxity is at the abbatoir end.   
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« Reply #11 on: 13 February 2013, 16:06:58 »

The real reason for it all . . . .  ::)      ::)





I really must have too much time on my hands . . .
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« Reply #12 on: 13 February 2013, 16:35:45 »

Just reserved a horse for easter so we can all have a leg!
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« Reply #13 on: 13 February 2013, 17:33:59 »

should have gone to spec savers :D
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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #14 on: 14 February 2013, 05:18:26 »

I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.

The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds. 

Why nit pick the subject? I did not miss the point at all by not indicating that it all had been mis-labelled. The point I intended to make was that horse meat does not cause any harm when eaten, that it is still available and has been eaten for ages by most of the world and it is a safer less fatty otion than beef.
Why should the 'horsey faction' of our society dictate whether we should eat it or not? Where did the personal choice and preference go? Do gooders are at it all over the place and it is time they reigned in their subversive attitudes.
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