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[horsecow]

I think you and I could sort it no bother ozzy, we'd get those scroungers sorted!!!

[albitz]

i know lets all vote for the monster raving looney party , cant do any worse then these lot

But "this lot" are doing something about it. And good on them. We cannot continue as we have been. Accept that, get over it, and move on.

Option 2 is no welfare payments at all to anyone.[/b] So which is the sensible way.

I suspect, by necessity, the latter will come in our lifetime 

Agreed.That may become unavoidable at some point.

[ozzycat]

I think you and I could sort it no bother ozzy, we'd get those scroungers sorted!!!

yea bloody right

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Hopefully this system will catch all these bone idles out , ive been reading they will target them so that the genuine needy will get the help they deserve . We will see , nearly 100000 have handed in their DLA already for fear of being caught out


Indeed the cost of implementation will be will be astronomic 

Where have you got that from EMD?

[Webby the Bear]

i know lets all vote for the monster raving looney party , cant do any worse then these lot

But "this lot" are doing something about it. And good on them. We cannot continue as we have been. Accept that, get over it, and move on.

Option 2 is no welfare payments at all to anyone.[/b] So which is the sensible way.

I suspect, by necessity, the latter will come in our lifetime 

Agreed.That may become unavoidable at some point.

Exactly. As usual the abusers ruin it for the majority 

[bored bigyin54]

i think my last post came out wrong in some places  in my opinion you have shown the genuine poorly people on this forum great sympathy and patience for wich i thankyou very much
 some people in this once great country of ours have been taught how to milk the system by there parents and grand parents i personly know of onre family who have not worked for 3 genarations but they own there own 5 bed house no mortgage have 3 mobility cars an the 6 of them which is granddad mum /dad 2 kids and one wife who had a job but gave it up when she maried the bone idle idiot they take 3 holidays abroad every year including xmas how do they doit ive no idea but its amazing what a so called bad back can do for you i have never seen no trace of injury in all the years ive known them they are family but to have 6 bad backs in one family amazes me
i cant a ford one holiday let alone 3 ..i lie we are going away 27 april for 1 week this is payed vfor by direct paynebts which is respite for my wife who is a god send she accepted this after they changed the rules so i could go with her  she has been offerd this for the last 4 years but refused it because i couldnt go with her and i would have been put in a home
im glad to say that my relatives were refused this thank god

your wife sounds like mine she wont go on her own . so we got two good ones mate

[STMO123]

Have a wife swap. That would liven the two of you up a bit.

[Nickbat]

Hopefully this system will catch all these bone idles out , ive been reading they will target them so that the genuine needy will get the help they deserve . We will see , nearly 100000 have handed in their DLA already for fear of being caught out


Indeed the cost of implementation will be will be astronomic 

Where have you got that from EMD?

Try the very first post in this thread, Lizzie. 

[ozzycat]

Have a wife swap. That would liven the two of you up a bit.

nah been maried 29 years this year and i would never swap her for the world i love her more now than when we got maried in 1984 if it wasnt for sandra i would be dead now

[scimmy_man]

Never mind a computer system, if a few civil servants spent a few weeks with a couple of phones and a started with the people longest on benefits and looked at their spending and travelling I think they could save money very quickly. It would be an interesting trial surely? There's bound to be a simple way of doing it, it just needs doing!!

A good friend of mine was head of a benifit fraud unit, they did quite well, until the Blair government closed it,
at the time they were reducing fraud at about 6 times the cost of the unit, never mind the ones who didnt claim after an investigation.

[horsecow]

Never mind a computer system, if a few civil servants spent a few weeks with a couple of phones and a started with the people longest on benefits and looked at their spending and travelling I think they could save money very quickly. It would be an interesting trial surely? There's bound to be a simple way of doing it, it just needs doing!!

A good friend of mine was head of a benifit fraud unit, they did quite well, until the Blair government closed it,
at the time they were reducing fraud at about 6 times the cost of the unit, never mind the ones who didnt claim after an investigation.

I don't think it would be very hard to catch the vast majority of them, tbh I think if half the people that work in the benefits offices did there jobs properly then we wouldn't have anywhere near as much trouble. Any time I go in most of them are sitting in groups having cups of tea and talking while the place is stuffed with people waiting to be seen. There always seems to be more people standing about behind the counters than there is working imo

[ozzycat]

Never mind a computer system, if a few civil servants spent a few weeks with a couple of phones and a started with the people longest on benefits and looked at their spending and travelling I think they could save money very quickly. It would be an interesting trial surely? There's bound to be a simple way of doing it, it just needs doing!!

A good friend of mine was head of a benifit fraud unit, they did quite well, until the Blair government closed it,
at the time they were reducing fraud at about 6 times the cost of the unit, never mind the ones who didnt claim after an investigation.

I don't think it would be very hard to catch the vast majority of them, tbh I think if half the people that work in the benefits offices did there jobs properly then we wouldn't have anywhere near as much trouble. Any time I go in most of them are sitting in groups having cups of tea and talking while the place is stuffed with people waiting to be seen. There always seems to be more people standing about behind the counters than there is working imo

thats local goverment for you mate

[omega3000]

I said several weeks ago that when the Government Benefit Cuts started the Philrich household would be in deep do-do! Well from today I am Officially classed as being fit for work despite having no Medical assessment! Unfortunately as i'm not fit for work in the 'real' world, I would be commiting Fraud if I tried to claim Jobseekers Allowance or whatever it's called these days! I've Appealed the decision but despite the best mediocre efforts of my GP in trying to put right his previous ballsup answering the ESA Inquisition letter, they wont change their decision and the Appeals System is running months behind schedule so we will be forced to survive on a near 50% cut in our Benefit income for the forseeable future with little or no guarantee of winning the Appeal. As from today we are to all intents and purposes Bankrupt as we cannot meet our Mortgage or other outgoings by a Country Mile! We have had our home on the Market since just before the World went Financially tits up this last time, as I saw which way the wind was blowing and had hoped to sell up & buy a little 2 up 2 down outright so we at least had the peace of mind of having a secure roof over our head. Any savings we had have slowly leaked away keeping  our head above water, I was paying almost £60 a month for Prescription medicines and appliances until I contracted the Big C and became eligible for free prescriptions for 5 years. I have 2 years left of this much appreciated & very welcome financial respite but when it comes to an end I will have the original drugs etc to pay for plus the extra stuff I now need to manage the after effects of my latest surgery. With any luck ( and i'm not joking in the slightest!) I will die in my sleep sooner rather than later as i'm worth more dead than alive and swmbo would have the house paid for. Whatever your views on the Welfare State, NHS or 'Benefits' in general, your life could be turned upside down at any time by accident, illness or circumstances beyond your control and the 'safety net' which we've paid into to cushion us in time of need is no longer there for the majority who are deserving of it. This Pathetic excuse for a Government & their equally Pathetic predecessors couldn't organise a pissup in a brewery! It makes me ashamed to be British!

+ 1 

[bored bigyin54]

Have a wife swap. That would liven the two of you up a bit.

nah been maried 29 years this year and i would never swap her for the world i love her more now than when we got maried in 1984 if it wasnt for sandra i would be dead now

i been married 38 years ,and wont swap her for anything

[Andy B]

Have a wife swap. That would liven the two of you up a bit.

nah been maried 29 years this year and i would never swap her for the world i love her more now than when we got maried in 1984 if it wasnt for sandra i would be dead now

i been married 38 years ,and wont swap her for anything

I've been married for 30yrs this year




...... and would be open to offers!! WHY!