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Political discussion on OOF - allowed or not?

Yes
- 33 (53.2%)
No
- 29 (46.8%)

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cleggy

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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #30 on: 17 April 2013, 22:42:47 »

In the 60's when we had a family pub, my uncle the Landlord had a hard and fast rule about 3 topics that were banned:-

1.  Politics
2.  Religion
3. Anything he didn't agree with

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #31 on: 17 April 2013, 22:44:08 »

I don't see that it encroaches on the forum as a car forum or as a whole. leave it in place and if people aren't interested they don't have to post.

but have it moderated more or less as the admins see fit. imo
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #32 on: 17 April 2013, 22:45:13 »

As for copy paste and quoting such endless copy paste - it very quickly deteriorates into tedium to read, in my opinion.

Easy to say 'move on and ignore then' but it kills serious discussion on some matters and only reinforces the argument relating to those posters with entrenched views that simply cannot or are not willing to consider the viewpoint of others. IMO.  :)
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albitz

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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #33 on: 17 April 2013, 22:46:23 »

If gen discussion and gen carchat were reunited,it might dilute the political content in gen discussion.As I said earlier Im sure there is now less political discussion than there was 3 or 4 years ago,but also there isnt much else being discussed either,so as a percentage of "chat",it may be (or appear to be) higher.
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cem_devecioglu

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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #34 on: 17 April 2013, 22:46:45 »

and I must note an important fact.. when a discussion develops, its not the one that starts  problem, the problem starts when some members loose their control and temper quickly and start insults .. I have witnessed such cases several times.. and naturally admins get involved..
 
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #35 on: 17 April 2013, 22:48:10 »

In the 60's when we had a family pub, my uncle the Landlord had a hard and fast rule about 3 topics that were banned:-

1.  Politics
2.  Religion
3. Anything he didn't agree with

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

How would your signature fit in then cleggy?   ;D :)
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #36 on: 17 April 2013, 22:48:52 »

Guffer - subjects suitable for 'banning' not currently open for discussion, other than politics.  :)

Sorry, I misunderstood the 'and stuff' but of the title. :y

Personally I detest discussing politics on here as it normally degenerates in to pointless drivel and tit for tats which lose their way and normally end up in disputes.  I feel there are places for such discussions, places made for discussing drivel like politics.
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cem_devecioglu

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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #37 on: 17 April 2013, 22:51:28 »

As for copy paste and quoting such endless copy paste - it very quickly deteriorates into tedium to read, in my opinion.

Easy to say 'move on and ignore then' but it kills serious discussion on some matters and only reinforces the argument relating to those posters with entrenched views that simply cannot or are not willing to consider the viewpoint of others. IMO.  :)

I think it depends on whats pasted.. if it seems unlogical anyway no one will read/have to read/  forced to read
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albitz

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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #38 on: 17 April 2013, 22:52:51 »

If you ban discussion of politics where do you draw the line ? Almost everything involves politics. Someone mentions that petrol duty has risen in the budget - politics.
If they did mntion it, it would probably be having a bit of a moan and letting off a bit of steam in a benign way,which is imo,actually what most political threads are about.
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #39 on: 17 April 2013, 22:54:19 »

Albs -
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If gen discussion and gen carchat were reunited,it might dilute the political content in gen discussion.As I said earlier Im sure there is now less political discussion than there was 3 or 4 years ago,but also there isnt much else being discussed either,so as a percentage of "chat",it may be (or appear to be) higher.

A fair comment.

However,main consideration under discussion is politics and its discussion as currently percieved, and whether it should be continued in its current format.

Does politics/EU/similar currently suppress gendiss?
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cleggy

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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #40 on: 17 April 2013, 22:54:44 »

In the 60's when we had a family pub, my uncle the Landlord had a hard and fast rule about 3 topics that were banned:-

1.  Politics
2.  Religion
3. Anything he didn't agree with

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

How would your signature fit in then cleggy?   ;D :)

Allowed, he'd agree, the overriding factor number 3. No political discussion vote UKIP nothing  else to discuss :y ;D ;D
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #41 on: 17 April 2013, 22:57:58 »

In the 60's when we had a family pub, my uncle the Landlord had a hard and fast rule about 3 topics that were banned:-

1.  Politics
2.  Religion
3. Anything he didn't agree with

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

How would your signature fit in then cleggy?   ;D :)

Allowed, he'd agree, the overriding factor number 3. No political discussion vote UKIP nothing  else to discuss :y ;D ;D

In that case, as currently discussed, the adjudicator is biased and therefore disallowed!   ;D
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #42 on: 17 April 2013, 22:58:45 »

If you look at the all time list of number of replies in the General Discussion area, you'll see that the Margaret Thatcher thread is at No. 13 and the recent Benefits thread is at No. 15, so clearly politics is of interest. The highest numbers are for games threads (add a word, etc.) and the dreaded Bus Nostalgia thread. It is only TB's tractor engine change and an LPG thread that are car-related.

Take away politics and you'll take away a great deal of interest in this section of the forum, IMHO.

I understand why some pub landlords ban politics and religion, but that's an entirely different issue. A landlord would not want to have a slanging match putting off people who want to come in and have a quiet drink, but this is not a pub and, as pointed out, if you don't do politics, don't read the thread:y

Personally, I avoid the "Obituary" threads (Joe Bloggs, RIP - another celebrity stiff) and the "My Medical Problem" threads (I'm too squeamish!), but members should have every right to carry on posting such threads, even though they're not my cup of tea (or should that be "cups of tea?"  ;)
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #43 on: 17 April 2013, 23:07:47 »

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I understand why some pub landlords ban politics and religion, but that's an entirely different issue.

Why different?

Pub landlords want civilised educated discussion (perhaps) in their bar and subjects that are pleasant for others to join into rather than have to jump into the arguing affray afterwards with a pick axe handle and bash heads and ban folks?

Bit like on here sometimes then....    :)
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #44 on: 17 April 2013, 23:17:07 »

Would be more than interested in the views of newbies/low postcount members/silent majority on this subject, rather than simply viewpoints of the more established membership.  :) :y
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