Its a well known fact that certain brands of tyre do not work on certain cars yet perform well on other marques - there are historical instances of this going back to the days of G800s. For any body to call a brand of tyre shit based only on their experience on Omegas is just stupid - for example Falkens are not a shit tyre, just unsuited to the Omega chassis based on the practical experience of some members, but are well suited to other makes of car (again from practical experiences).
Unfortunately there is a degree of tunnel vision exhibited by some members - I know its an Omega forum, and I agree that Omegas were great cars in their day, but times change, and the rather pedantic posts that all one manufacturers tyres are shit are wrong, and should perhaps be edited out by admins, or clarified as Omega specific, rather than a generalisation.
Agreed. You seem to have started talking sense lately? (Very tongue in cheek remark)
I did say they are shit. And they are... As its an omega site specific to omegas I did omit they are ok on smaller cars apparently. Bigdodds(?) I think it was, had them on the his golf, so fitted them to his omega.
Iirc he found similar poor results on his omega with Falkens.
I also made similar mistakes. Another being, recommending them as reasonable before I had experience of them throughout the tyres life. As I'm sure you know, and I have learned, half a tyre life is no measure of its total capability, as the Falkens where soft and comfy, as opposed to taught and accurate from the outset.
Little did I know how badly they would degrade.
Cem and dbdb.
My whole reason for being here is to TRY to insure both mine and TB's experiences with Falkens and Sc5 are never allowed to be repeated by another member.
Unless you guys have experienced the disaster of spending between £4-700 on tyres only for the cars handling to be utterly destroyed, I do find it difficult to see how ANY other tyre other than those of your personal experience can be recommended to anyone else. Be that on here or to personal aquaintances etc ...?
Just to try and add some perspective in the face of this problem.
A good handling tyre.
As some if those members in the "approved tyre" list will have seen, as they witnessed the bit if road I mean, gives one or two steering corrections over the distance if that straight road at 40mph.
A tyre that tram lines.
10-15 corrections on same road at same speed.
Pics up over banding, dips, ruts, and tram lines in the road. (Tram lines being tyre tracks or wear marks in the road where all road users drive, the road is basickly worn and in poor condition and the car reacts in varrying degrees to that wear on the road)
A bad handling tyre. (No directional stability)
Constant correction continually. With no end in sight, lost count through fear and laughter.
I hope nobody ever pays good money for tyre like these. Basickly they refuse to go straight. Ever. Constant correction at the steering wheel with no obvious reason for it. The road, unlike with tram lining tyres, can be in perfect condition, no imperfections to speak of that are visible to the driver, no reason at all for the instability as far as the road is concerned.
Then add in a bumpy B road, such as the one at Ashridge, and you wouldn't believe a car could spend do much time going sideways to go forward. Mrs TB said it feels like there's no grip! Because the car is moving around so much. It's like standing on a half inflated football. No matter what you do your foot wants to roll off the ball. It's like there's a unicycle on each corner of the car, each wheel being totally independant of the other, the chassis, and input from the driver who is left petrified of exceding even sedate speeds for fear if running off the road.
Seriously it's that bad.
The only other tyre I've encountered to do this was completely worn out. Michelin primacy. Both edges of both front tyres where worn away, the rears where flat in the middle. Typical omega wear times 20. The tyre rolled off every high spot in the road at the front, and the outside edges grabbed at every high spot at the rear. Result, appalling handling.
Yet the sc5 and Falkens did this from brand new, although the Falkens less so but degraded very quickly and where binned at half worn.
I have made the mistake of recommending Falkens on here, as a quiet and comfortable tyre as a first impression. Hence I always say not to advise on a tyre until you've binned it.
Your right, I am not an expert, I have a lot to learn. As we ALL do. But standing in the way of that experience above, especially in a manor that implies that others should ignore it to thier personal cost, is NEVER going to sit well with me I'm afraid.
I make no appologies for that, what so ever!
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