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[cem_devecioglu]

I'll start with your second first...

Cars depreciate the second they get to their first owner, servicing them merely slows the speed at which the value falls away.

As for him owning the parts yes he paid for them, but he donated them to to the owner of the car when he fitted them.

Your wife owns an ipod. The headphones are a bit tatty, so, without asking, you by some nice new ones. A week later she sells the ipod and new headphones to a man in the market. By your logic, you are entitled to demand the headphones back simply because you paid for them

To quote Vamps from a month or so ago...

Shall we just cut to the chase, you bought a car, paid cash and there is a problem with it, you have no choice but to live with your decision........

decide on one of them Al.. does servicing adds to the value of car or not ?

[cem_devecioglu]

ok.. thats enough.. the op now suffering a problem.. so no need to convert this too a pee contest.. I'm off

[05omegav6]

Not

A well serviced car simply loses less, not the same thing...

P.s. TTFN

[rockhound]

i will speak to the financial ombudsman in the morning to see if they can clear any of this up as to who owes what and if i can claim any back

Thanks again

[Lazydocker]

Unfortunately the OP has been burnt. He broke some golden rules and now, very sadly, has to live with the consequences unless he goes and finds the seller.

At the end of the day he gave over his hard earned cash to someone who gave him a car he didn't own in return. Now the person who owns the car has had it back and is willing to sell it at fair market value.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm struggling to understand this thread to be honest. 

The OP bought a car which turned out to be stolen, so he has lost the car and his money, including that spent on repairs etc.  Here's the thing, all the OP seems worried about is how much he can buy it back from the insurance company for..... 

So unless the spare wheel is stuffed with coke. Why?    Also he dosn't seem interested in finding/pursuing/damaging the seller!! 

Am I missing something?   

[rockhound]

I'm struggling to understand this thread to be honest. 

The OP bought a car which turned out to be stolen, so he has lost the car and his money, including that spent on repairs etc.  Here's the thing, all the OP seems worried about is how much he can buy it back from the insurance company for..... 

So unless the spare wheel is stuffed with coke. Why?    Also he dosn't seem interested in finding/pursuing/damaging the seller!! 

Am I missing something?   

yes you clearly are,   the police are dealing with the seller who has sold a car from a rented property ,   what do you suggest i do ,   track him down myself from over 200 miles away ? 

The insurance company now own the vehicle and i'm either trying to buy it back at trade price or claim at least what extra i spent on the car on top of what i paid for it to the thief who sold it to me ,   I still need a car so why not this one if i can get it cheaper than buying from dealer ,   once again what don't you understand

[Lazydocker]

I'm struggling to understand this thread to be honest. 

The OP bought a car which turned out to be stolen, so he has lost the car and his money, including that spent on repairs etc.  Here's the thing, all the OP seems worried about is how much he can buy it back from the insurance company for..... 

So unless the spare wheel is stuffed with coke. Why?    Also he dosn't seem interested in finding/pursuing/damaging the seller!! 

Am I missing something?   

yes you clearly are,   the police are dealing with the seller who has sold a car from a rented property ,   what do you suggest i do ,   track him down myself from over 200 miles away ? 

The insurance company now own the vehicle and i'm either trying to buy it back at trade price or claim at least what extra i spent on the car on top of what i paid for it to the thief who sold it to me ,   I still need a car so why not this one if i can get it cheaper than buying from dealer ,   once again what don't you understand

Why should they sell it to you at trade? They have paid out market value for it and that is what they are trying to reclaim from you... If it was your car stolen and they were paying out to you I'm sure you wouldn't accept trade value

Besides, if the polce are dealing with the seller I think I'd get a cheap banger for a while and see if they recover any money for you But if I were in your shoes I'd be up there with a few large, rugby playing friends to ask the theif to repay me

[Vamps]

I'm struggling to understand this thread to be honest. 

The OP bought a car which turned out to be stolen, so he has lost the car and his money, including that spent on repairs etc.  Here's the thing, all the OP seems worried about is how much he can buy it back from the insurance company for..... 

So unless the spare wheel is stuffed with coke. Why?    Also he dosn't seem interested in finding/pursuing/damaging the seller!! 

Am I missing something?   

yes you clearly are,   the police are dealing with the seller who has sold a car from a rented property ,   what do you suggest i do ,   track him down myself from over 200 miles away ? 

The insurance company now own the vehicle and i'm either trying to buy it back at trade price or claim at least what extra i spent on the car on top of what i paid for it to the thief who sold it to me ,   I still need a car so why not this one if i can get it cheaper than buying from dealer ,   once again what don't you understand

I thought in your original post it had a gearbox issue....

[05omegav6]

Must be a bloody good car to justify buying it twice

If you had owned it before it was stolen, I could understand where you're coming from

But, you didn't, so God alone knows what other horrors are lurking in it, the fact that you're looking at paying £18k for a five year old five series notwithstanding

I mean so far you've had to replace the brakes all round, had a busted oil pipe, a busted engine mount, have a potentially fatal gearbox fault, had problems getting a new key cut because the cars computer has been messed with and found out that the car was stolen...

I am with Sir Tigger on this

Best bet, buy a cheap runaround to get mobile and move on...

[rockhound]

The person that sold me the car does not live at the address from where i bought the car,   so where are you and your rugby friends going to go,   look around yorkshire maybe

Also the car has now got a stolen recorded marker for life against it as the insurance are required by law to inform DVLA ,  this reduces the price of the car,   also the insurance does not  have a forcourt to sell cars from so they sell to the trade at trade prices ,    im not asking for under trade but for the same price they would possibly get at auction for a car that has been stolen and recovered which is obviously a lot less asking price than for a car with no history,    does that make sense ?

How have i paid 18k for the car ,    will it make any difference if i buy a mercedes for instance ,   does that then get added on to the cost of the bmw 

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm struggling to understand this thread to be honest. 

The OP bought a car which turned out to be stolen, so he has lost the car and his money, including that spent on repairs etc.  Here's the thing, all the OP seems worried about is how much he can buy it back from the insurance company for..... 

So unless the spare wheel is stuffed with coke. Why?    Also he dosn't seem interested in finding/pursuing/damaging the seller!! 

Am I missing something?   

yes you clearly are,   the police are dealing with the seller who has sold a car from a rented property ,   what do you suggest i do ,   track him down myself from over 200 miles away ? 

The insurance company now own the vehicle and i'm either trying to buy it back at trade price or claim at least what extra i spent on the car on top of what i paid for it to the thief who sold it to me ,   I still need a car so why not this one if i can get it cheaper than buying from dealer ,   once again what don't you understand

So have the Police found the thief/seller? because you don't seem at all bothered by this and it's a slim chance but probably the only one of getting your money back.  And yes for the amount you've lost, I'd say 200 miles is no distance at all! 

Too be honest if this had happened to me, I'd never want to see the bloody thing again, let alone spending even more cash to have it back.  Besides even if the insurance company did sell it to you at trade, it's not going to be that much less anyway... 

I'm not having a go or anything, just trying to understand what's going on!   

[rockhound]

I'm struggling to understand this thread to be honest. 

The OP bought a car which turned out to be stolen, so he has lost the car and his money, including that spent on repairs etc.  Here's the thing, all the OP seems worried about is how much he can buy it back from the insurance company for..... 

So unless the spare wheel is stuffed with coke. Why?    Also he dosn't seem interested in finding/pursuing/damaging the seller!! 

Am I missing something?   

yes you clearly are,   the police are dealing with the seller who has sold a car from a rented property ,   what do you suggest i do ,   track him down myself from over 200 miles away ? 

The insurance company now own the vehicle and i'm either trying to buy it back at trade price or claim at least what extra i spent on the car on top of what i paid for it to the thief who sold it to me ,   I still need a car so why not this one if i can get it cheaper than buying from dealer ,   once again what don't you understand

So have the Police found the thief/seller? because you don't seem at all bothered by this and it's a slim chance but probably the only one of getting your money back.  And yes for the amount you've lost, I'd say 200 miles is no distance at all! 

Too be honest if this had happened to me, I'd never want to see the bloody thing again, let alone spending even more cash to have it back.  Besides even if the insurance company did sell it to you at trade, it's not going to be that much less anyway... 

I'm not having a go or anything, just trying to understand what's going on!   

i am bothered but what do you suggest i do about catching the thief and even if i did what do you suggest then ?    the guy who sold the car was more than likely not the person who had the money from the deal and more like some idiot who had a few hundred from it for selling it on someone elses behalf

so please tell me what you would do 

[Sir Tigger KC]

You havn't answered my question. Have the police caught the seller/thief? 

[rockhound]

not as far as i know ,   they have not told me so i presume not