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[Vamps]

Vamps. YOUR A PIKEY.

I was at home, had people in doing some work outside......

[Sir Tigger KC]

I was surprised to see this as I'm sure I saw in the news recently that Haynes were buying a similar business in the US.  I've had a quick look but can't find the article now. 

[albitz]

Vamps. YOUR A PIKEY.

I was in my  home on wheels, had family  doing some tarmacing work nearby......

Point proven.

[Michael2.6]

Very true.It used to be a great british tradition to work on your own car.Many driveways up and down the country had a mans head under an open bonnet on any dry sunday. These days most people put fuel in the tank and pay the local  eastern Europeans a few quid to wash it while they are in Tescos.

Folk have more money these days  than in years gone by

Why do it yourself when you can get a muppet to do it

So you can go to Tescos and have a coffee and be lazy about it.

[MaxV6]

so far the best use i've seen for a modern Haynes book,  was mark and TB using it to stand on to be able to reach in to the engine bay a little further.


the books are otherwise useless these days,  not because of a lack of written information, but because they're printed on such thin rubbish paper, you can read both pages from both sides of the sheet,  but can;t actually distinguish anything in any of the photographs.


(having relatively recently bought an astra manual ,  i am sorry to say i'm not actually joking.....   )

[Vamps]

Vamps. YOUR A PIKEY.

I was in my  home on wheels, had family  doing some tarmacing work nearby......

Point proven.

Well the drive and rear patio were recipients of physical labour, as well as a hedge......

[albitz]

Vamps. YOUR A PIKEY.

I was in my  home on wheels, had family  doing some tarmacing work nearby......

Point proven.

Well the drive and rear patio were replaced with wafer thin tarmac, as well as a hedge......

When your in a hole.......

[Vamps]

Vamps. YOUR A PIKEY.

I was in my  home on wheels, had family  doing some tarmacing work nearby......

Point proven.

Well the drive and rear patio were replaced with wafer thin tarmac, as well as a hedge......

When your in a hole.......

I like Tarmac me!..........

[albitz]

 

[Kevin Wood]

Yep.Men don't work on the car on a Sunday now.They have progressed to cooking Sunday lunch.

And cleaning and washing and ironing while swmbo and Miss Vamps go to the caravan (Static).......

You have to keep saying 'static' don't you' Mike. Just in case we think you're a pikey like.

Definition of Static :- still saving up for the Transit tipper to pull it.

[Vamps]

Yep.Men don't work on the car on a Sunday now.They have progressed to cooking Sunday lunch.

And cleaning and washing and ironing while swmbo and Miss Vamps go to the caravan (Static).......

You have to keep saying 'static' don't you' Mike. Just in case we think you're a pikey like.

Definition of Static :- still saving up for the Transit tipper to pull it. ;D

I have a Jeep with an Irish Reg, dont need a Transit.....na na na na na.......

[DaveA]

Very true.It used to be a great british tradition to work on your own car.Many driveways up and down the country had a mans head under an open bonnet on any dry sunday. These days most people put fuel in the tank and pay the local  eastern Europeans a few quid to wash it while they are in Tescos.

 
Folk have more money these days  than in years gone by

Why do it yourself when you can get a muppet to do it

So you can go to Tescos and have a coffee and be lazy about it.

 I have a neighbour who has a new motor every two or three years or so, claims he has never lifted a bonnet, never set the trip computer, does not know how to, it need not be there as far as he's concerned. Just takes it into the stealers when they send him a reminder. He must have topped up his windscreen wash bottle at some time, although I've never seen him do it.
  Wish I was rich.         Surely something will go phut at some time.           

[conalnugent]

Handy as it was there were better ways to do some of the dismantling that was less time consuming than the haynes way

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Lets face it, cars are now heading towards sealed engine compartments, with electric motors, where only the computer, not the greasy tool totting mechanic, will be welcome.

I was lucky by having a highly qualified mechanic as an uncle who gave me good training that, along with car mechanics evening classes, gave me all the basic knowledge I needed as a youngster to keep my car going.  The Haynes manual gave me added useful info pertaining  to my cars.  But cars were simple then, with no electronics to talk of.  Now, as I said, you need a computer, plus a degree in electronics 

[05omegav6]

You still need spannering ability to identify, locate, extract and refit said boxes of electrickery though

And the mechanicals are all largely unchanged in their principles of operation some things have also been developed to oblivion. For example, my first car was a 2.3 Cologne V6 Granada. Service intervals were 6k and included adjusting the valve rockers every 6k. Current Omega has 10k oil changes and self adjusting hydraulic valve lifters, so not only twice the service interval, but also less than half the work every time...