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[MR MISTER]

If you don't take infinity your still on copper to the exchange.

If you buy infinity they jumper your house to cabinet copper over to the fibre cabinet so you get faster speed :-)

That would make sense ...if the OP hadn't have written

Today some workmen came and removed the cab at the end of our road

which is the essence of his question ......   

In simple terms .."if the copper cabinet has been removed, what is now limiting my speed" .. 

Thank you, Nigel, thank you.

[MR MISTER]

If the copper cabinet has been removed then the copper will have been moved to the new cabinet and still be used unless you buy FTC.

They can't remove the copper as it is needed for the phone line part even with FTC - you can't have a fixed line that stops working when the power goes off (it would if using the FTC).

Steve

Aha.....thank you, Steve

[Entwood]

If the copper cabinet has been removed then the copper will have been moved to the new cabinet and still be used unless you buy FTC.

They can't remove the copper as it is needed for the phone line part even with FTC - you can't have a fixed line that stops working when the power goes off (it would if using the FTC).

Steve

Aha.....thank you, Steve

and as that actually makes a lot of sense .. a thank you from me as well .. 

[Gaffers]

Fibre does not suffer the same speed/distance

Oh yes it does and it costs about the same as cable to install plus can carry a monsterous bandwidth.

I didn't say it doesn't    Just that it doesn't suffer the same issues that copper has

[TheBoy]

To clarify:

With FTTC (Infinity 1 or Infinity 2 in BT Retail speak), you will still have a copper pair all the way back to your local exchange, for voice. As BT Wholesale do not offer any options that do not include voice capability, thats non negotiable, no matter which ISP.

Also with FTTC, there will be a fibre cable from the new cabinet to the serving exchange, which may or may not be your local exchange - mine is 12 miles away.

The copper voice and the fibre data are joined at the cabinet, and sent down the copper to your home.

Its unusual to remove the old cabinet though, that normally stays put, as it holds your E and D sides, with a tie cable to the new cab for joining into the mini DSLAM.


FTTP does not offer voice, so a fibre from your serving exchange straight to home, spliced as near as possible to your home. This is expected to be offered to all FTTC in the not too distant future, with an install cost around £1k

[TheBoy]

Obviously, with FTTP, if you want a landline, you have to get a normal copper line in, or VoIP.

[MR MISTER]

To clarify:

With FTTC (Infinity 1 or Infinity 2 in BT Retail speak), you will still have a copper pair all the way back to your local exchange, for voice. As BT Wholesale do not offer any options that do not include voice capability, thats non negotiable, no matter which ISP.

Also with FTTC, there will be a fibre cable from the new cabinet to the serving exchange, which may or may not be your local exchange - mine is 12 miles away.

The copper voice and the fibre data are joined at the cabinet, and sent down the copper to your home.

Its unusual to remove the old cabinet though, that normally stays put, as it holds your E and D sides, with a tie cable to the new cab for joining into the mini DSLAM.


FTTP does not offer voice, so a fibre from your serving exchange straight to home, spliced as near as possible to your home. This is expected to be offered to all FTTC in the not too distant future, with an install cost around £1k

I'm happy now. please answer in a more timely manner in future.

[Gaffers]

To clarify:

With FTTC (Infinity 1 or Infinity 2 in BT Retail speak), you will still have a copper pair all the way back to your local exchange, for voice. As BT Wholesale do not offer any options that do not include voice capability, thats non negotiable, no matter which ISP.

Also with FTTC, there will be a fibre cable from the new cabinet to the serving exchange, which may or may not be your local exchange - mine is 12 miles away.

The copper voice and the fibre data are joined at the cabinet, and sent down the copper to your home.

Its unusual to remove the old cabinet though, that normally stays put, as it holds your E and D sides, with a tie cable to the new cab for joining into the mini DSLAM.


FTTP does not offer voice, so a fibre from your serving exchange straight to home, spliced as near as possible to your home. This is expected to be offered to all FTTC in the not too distant future, with an install cost around £1k

I'm happy now. please answer in a more timely manner in future.

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

[MR MISTER]

To clarify:

With FTTC (Infinity 1 or Infinity 2 in BT Retail speak), you will still have a copper pair all the way back to your local exchange, for voice. As BT Wholesale do not offer any options that do not include voice capability, thats non negotiable, no matter which ISP.

Also with FTTC, there will be a fibre cable from the new cabinet to the serving exchange, which may or may not be your local exchange - mine is 12 miles away.

The copper voice and the fibre data are joined at the cabinet, and sent down the copper to your home.

Its unusual to remove the old cabinet though, that normally stays put, as it holds your E and D sides, with a tie cable to the new cab for joining into the mini DSLAM.


FTTP does not offer voice, so a fibre from your serving exchange straight to home, spliced as near as possible to your home. This is expected to be offered to all FTTC in the not too distant future, with an install cost around £1k

I'm happy now. please answer in a more timely manner in future.

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

They just don't make them like that any more.

[Gaffers]

Saw it on Netflicks and I couldn't 'passover' it 

[TheBoy]

Always look on the bright side of life...

[SIR Philbutt]

We are not able to get any fast broadband on our estate as the local cab is not suitable yet and no one knows when

So I had a thought of getting a 3g/4g MIFI to use as my internet connection for the house.

Not researched it yet so no idea of annual costs and potential speed with xbox, PS3, desktop, tablet, phones, and 2 laptops in the house.

One positive I thought of is that I can take with me to use say on holiday (with different sim - i know)

Anybody know if this a good or bad idea ?

[MR MISTER]

Glad I'm not a gamer. By the time you've bought the console, then the games and, it appears, super fasst bb is a must.

[TheBoy]

Well, you'll get faster from fixed line broadband.

Mobile broadband is entirely unsuitable for gaming, due to consistency and erratic latency.

[SIR Philbutt]

Glad I'm not a gamer. By the time you've bought the console, then the games and, it appears, super fasst bb is a must.

The BB copes - most of the time  . I want to get more into watching stuff online and hope someday to get rid of sky and even the tv licence but will eventually need faster BB - ah well

Well, you'll get faster from fixed line broadband.

Mobile broadband is entirely unsuitable for gaming, due to consistency and erratic latency.

Thanks for that TB  wont waste anymore diminishing brain power on that then