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chrisgixer

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Re: Self Levelling issues
« Reply #45 on: 14 October 2013, 22:23:31 »

Done and still not rising... Obviously as soon as you remove the pump the bladders let all the air out though ;)
You have to be pretty quick fingered ;D

Have you tried adjusting the sensor arm :-\

Disconnecting and raising the sensor arm to maximum, should see the sl top out, rise fully. What's happening is;
Raise arm.
Pump runs, continually.
The bladders inflate. Pump still running.
But the car stops rising beyond a cirtain point broadly similar to the normal ride height or doesn't rise at all above the natural level of the springs. Pump still running, and so on.
The car never rises.

Some air is being pumped, bit not enough.

Conclude, asthmatic/tired pump. Replace with a known good one.

Any thoughts?

Pump still running btw. ;)
Ah, if pump running, but no more uppy uppy, either:
Faulty shocks
No (more) air from pump
Air not getting to shocks
I was about to say the shocks are brand new, so not faulty. But...

When I cut the bands in the shocks they didn't extend. The bladders had had stuck to the shock body. Paint still wet on assembly sort of thing.

For the shocks to be faulty due to that issue, they would have to have torn the bladder material.

But LD tells me by phone, there are no leaks, not signified by any audible hissing at least.

If air was escaping there would be a hiss, and or, the bladders would deflate once the pump turned off. Depending on any one valves of course, if there are any?
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chrisgixer

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Re: Self Levelling issues
« Reply #46 on: 14 October 2013, 22:25:10 »

Air lines could be partially blocked I guess, but iirc he's had the air lines off the shocks?
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chrisgixer

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Re: Self Levelling issues
« Reply #47 on: 14 October 2013, 22:31:15 »

Tech 2 would not communicate with my 03 SL ecu. :(
I know my old tech2 spoke to your ecu before, so whats changed?
No, it really didn't. The black one?
Yeah. You were pissing around with Irmscher springs and SL shocks IIRC, and we were trying to reset the SL height.
What was the outcome?
Wanky idea
Outcome was no communication I thought? Tried the setup procedure, but communication broke down. We never completed the procedure anyway, as it seemed to calibrate itself.
Later outcome was, bin sl shocks due to poor damping. So it was a waste of time anyway.

Didn't Kevin play with my sl at Newent for another member..? He had a dodgy sensor in the end, so Kev may have got through to it...?
Decent tech 2 driver you see. ;) ;D
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Re: Self Levelling issues
« Reply #48 on: 15 October 2013, 16:06:55 »

Sooooo... Was the general thought that I need another pump? ???

Thinking about it, there is an occasional, historic code about intake air accumulator fault :-\
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« Reply #49 on: 15 October 2013, 17:24:18 »

Sooooo... Was the general thought that I need another pump? ???

Thinking about it, there is an occasional, historic code about intake air accumulator fault :-\
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Re: Self Levelling issues
« Reply #50 on: 15 October 2013, 18:57:37 »

Tech 2 would not communicate with my 03 SL ecu. :(
I know my old tech2 spoke to your ecu before, so whats changed?
No, it really didn't. The black one?
Yeah. You were pissing around with Irmscher springs and SL shocks IIRC, and we were trying to reset the SL height.
What was the outcome?
Wanky idea
Outcome was no communication I thought? Tried the setup procedure, but communication broke down. We never completed the procedure anyway, as it seemed to calibrate itself.
Later outcome was, bin sl shocks due to poor damping. So it was a waste of time anyway.

Didn't Kevin play with my sl at Newent for another member..? He had a dodgy sensor in the end, so Kev may have got through to it...?
Decent tech 2 driver you see. ;) ;D
Nope, we had comes, we just couldn't reset it that low - "Calibration failed" iirc.
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Re: Self Levelling issues
« Reply #51 on: 15 October 2013, 18:58:05 »

Sooooo... Was the general thought that I need another pump? ???

Thinking about it, there is an occasional, historic code about intake air accumulator fault :-\
Ignore that, its 'dangle berries' anyway.
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chrisgixer

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« Reply #52 on: 15 October 2013, 20:21:59 »

Sooooo... Was the general thought that I need another pump? ???

Thinking about it, there is an occasional, historic code about intake air accumulator fault :-\

Haven't you swapped that pump yet? ::) :P
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Re: Self Levelling issues
« Reply #53 on: 16 October 2013, 01:18:20 »

Sooooo... Was the general thought that I need another pump? ???

Thinking about it, there is an occasional, historic code about intake air accumulator fault :-\

Haven't you swapped that pump yet? ::) :P

Pump and sensor swapped ;)

Looks like I'm swapping the pump again ::)
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« Reply #54 on: 18 October 2013, 22:52:55 »

check wires under rear seat squab :y mine would go up---then stay that way----it was multi plugs under rear seat :y
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Re: Self Levelling issues
« Reply #55 on: 24 October 2013, 16:37:03 »

Hmm.... Curious ::)

Got another pump from Albs (although it's not been fitted) and compared the air output from that to the one on the car and they are the same. Tried pumping the shocks up again and got to 1 BAR as suggested but still no risey.

The sensor will call for air and the pump will run but no risey risey. :-\ :-\

There's definitely good air flow and pressure at the shocks and no leaks. It rises to the standard height and then wont go up any more :-\ :-\

Might just bin it and fit a set of B4 shocks and spring assisters ::) ::)

Incidentally, it also put the tyre inflater onto a shock on the other car and that didn't rise with 1 BAR either :-\

I also got a bit "angry" with my old pump and did some delicate disassembly to see what's inside ::) Anyone want pics?

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« Reply #56 on: 24 October 2013, 16:39:35 »

Pics can't hurt.


I wonder are the bladders stuck to the shock body?
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Re: Self Levelling issues
« Reply #57 on: 24 October 2013, 17:12:46 »

Hmm.... Curious ::)

Got another pump from Albs (although it's not been fitted) and compared the air output from that to the one on the car and they are the same. Tried pumping the shocks up again and got to 1 BAR as suggested but still no risey.

The sensor will call for air and the pump will run but no risey risey. :-\ :-\

There's definitely good air flow and pressure at the shocks and no leaks. It rises to the standard height and then wont go up any more :-\ :-\

Might just bin it and fit a set of B4 shocks and spring assisters ::) ::)

Incidentally, it also put the tyre inflater onto a shock on the other car and that didn't rise with 1 BAR either :-\

I also got a bit "angry" with my old pump and did some delicate disassembly to see what's inside ::) Anyone want pics?

Dunno if it makes any odds but the ride levellers on my 406 need 1 bar when empty just to keep the bladders from rubbing,to actually raise the back (and its a light car) needs close on 2 bar of pressure(using the onboard pressure gauge)
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Re: Self Levelling issues
« Reply #58 on: 24 October 2013, 17:31:16 »

Pics can't hurt.


I wonder are the bladders stuck to the shock body?

Definitely not... Had air in them and they expand nicely ;)

Oh... And I'll take some pics later
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Re: Self Levelling issues
« Reply #59 on: 24 October 2013, 17:36:21 »

Might just bin it and fit a set of B4 shocks and spring assisters ::) ::)

You know it makes sense.
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