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Re: Stubborn/Rusted fasteners
« Reply #15 on: 09 January 2014, 02:03:16 »

;D ;D

Yeah, when I said ''hitting it with a hammer'' I didn't mean swinging a sledge at it with a 10 metre run up  ;D ;D ;D Just a solid forceful repetitious thump. I like to use the 1/2" ratchet. It's got a good sized head on it and cant exert too much force. Again, don't call the tool cops  ;D

Good way to knacker a ratchet Webby - best to use a short bar with a hammer, and yes the "shock" method does work just like an impact driver ;)
Except the impact driver is designed to shock, and the spanners isn't. ;)
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Re: Stubborn/Rusted fasteners
« Reply #16 on: 09 January 2014, 07:24:54 »

How about buying some longer spanners in the bigger sizes? I bought double ended 15&13 and 17&19mm at a show for £2 each, and they are far more useful than I expected. Aux belt tensioners for example.
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Re: Stubborn/Rusted fasteners
« Reply #17 on: 09 January 2014, 08:40:53 »

.... I'd rather break a wrench and it comes loose.

spanner  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)
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« Reply #18 on: 09 January 2014, 09:46:37 »

If you're talking about beating on a ratchet handle with a hammer - don't do it, as someone said that's a good way to end up with a freewheeling ratchet that's no use to man nor beast.

If you're talking about hitting the end of a spanner with a hammer .. works pretty well in my experience  :-X ;D
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« Reply #19 on: 09 January 2014, 11:28:13 »

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If you're talking about hitting the end of a spanner with a hammer .. works pretty well in my experience  :-X ;D

Trouble is with some spanners is the chroming gets damaged & you end up with slivers of chrome in your hand when you use it properly  ;)

some spanners are designed to be 'flogged'  ;) http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=17+flogging+spanner&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xflogging+spanner&_nkw=flogging+spanner&_sacat=0
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« Reply #20 on: 09 January 2014, 11:36:22 »

Unless you shear the bolt by applying too much force ::)

I don't thing a hammer or mallet would do that, but a scaffold pole with two up can..... ;) :-X :-X

Had 3 up on a scaffold pole to undo wheel nuts once  :D Windy gun numpties   >:(
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« Reply #21 on: 09 January 2014, 11:59:22 »

...

If you're talking about hitting the end of a spanner with a hammer .. works pretty well in my experience  :-X ;D

Trouble is with some spanners is the chroming gets damaged & you end up with slivers of chrome in your hand when you use it properly  ;)

True - though I've not had a problem (ab)using Halfords spanners in such a way (the expensive ones, anyway).

Always cringe when a friend of mine does it to a ratchet spanner, though :-X
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Re: Stubborn/Rusted fasteners
« Reply #22 on: 09 January 2014, 12:02:04 »

Whack a ratchet hard enough and it'll bounce back a bit too easily :-X
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Re: Stubborn/Rusted fasteners
« Reply #23 on: 09 January 2014, 12:32:56 »

Hammer approach is last resort for me.

Standard is

1) Spanner using the usual technique
2) Short breaker bar with either a socket or crows foot (if space is limited)
3) Longer breaker bar
4) Usualy a soft headed (e.g. copper head) hammer on the breaker bar near the socket end

Its rare that approach one does not work but its all down to strength and technique.
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Re: Stubborn/Rusted fasteners
« Reply #24 on: 09 January 2014, 13:31:03 »

Hammer approach is last resort for me.

Standard is

1) Spanner using the usual technique
2) Short breaker bar with either a socket or crows foot (if space is limited)
3) Longer breaker bar
4) Usualy a soft headed (e.g. copper head) hammer on the breaker bar near the socket end

Its rare that approach one does not work but its all down to strength and technique.

And how heavy that copper hammer is :D ;D ;D
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Re: Stubborn/Rusted fasteners
« Reply #25 on: 09 January 2014, 13:31:10 »

That's my approach as well.
One of the things I don't miss about working on older, simpler stuff is that modern fasteners seem to be much better quality and don't round off/snap/bend as often. BL cars in particular seem to be held together with bolts made from engineering grade cheese.
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Re: Stubborn/Rusted fasteners
« Reply #26 on: 09 January 2014, 13:49:53 »

I usually give it a tap with a hammer first, breaker bar with a 6 sided socket and if still no joy scaff pole with a gentle pull.
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Re: Stubborn/Rusted fasteners
« Reply #27 on: 09 January 2014, 13:53:16 »

Hammer approach is last resort for me.

Standard is

1) Spanner using the usual technique
2) Short breaker bar with either a socket or crows foot (if space is limited)
3) Longer breaker bar
4) Usualy a soft headed (e.g. copper head) hammer on the breaker bar near the socket end

Its rare that approach one does not work but its all down to strength and technique.

I'mlacking in both hence the easyapproach of smacking it ;)

Oneuseful tip for doing it is this: hold thehammer as normal and hit the spanner BELOW the head of thehammer.... it then wont 'miss' but still has the force cos of the heavy hammer head :)
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« Reply #28 on: 09 January 2014, 14:01:29 »

engineering grade cheese.

Pretty sure most French manufacturers used the same stuff in the 80s & 90s based on my (bad) memories.. ;D
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« Reply #29 on: 09 January 2014, 16:37:27 »

engineering grade cheese.

Pretty sure most French manufacturers used the same stuff in the 80s & 90s based on my (bad) memories.. ;D

Aye  >:(
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