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[Kevin Wood]

As for the 12V Granada, I reckon a 2.2 would see it off! 

[05omegav6]

The Cossie Grandad is a fair bit lighter than an Omega and doesn't give much away in power...

Tops out at 145 (apparently ) so yes, a plod 3.2 will pull away eventually... having owned both, I reckon it would be closer than you give the granny credit for

[Ever Ready]

As for the 12V Granada, I reckon a 2.2 would see it off! 

Stop picking on the poor old granny

I concur that a 2.2 would have a good chance of rogering it   oooh errr  missus

[Nick W]

Must have been a 12v one Kevin, the 24v would keep a 3.2 honest to 145 ish

The 24v in a Grandad is a match for the 2.5 I reckon, but definately not a 3.0l. Not that I would be irresponsible enough to try such a thing 

As there is very little between a 3.0l and 3.2l, I'd say a 3.2 should be able to show the Grandad a clean set of heels.

(assuming both autos, not tried such a test with manuals...  ...actually, not sure I've ever seen a manual version of the 2.9 granny)

Only way of getting a manual 2.9 is with a transfer box attached. Although it is possible to convert one. The 12v 2.9 compares OK with a 2.5 Omega, and there's nothing to choose between a 24v and a 3.0l. Autos of course, although the Ford gearbox isn't very good. A 24v in a Transit is amusing, although the mounts, gearbox and associated bits are hard to find.

[dbug]

Eee when I where a lad


The old stuff holds no emotion for me. It's all shite to drive.

Where's the cut off point though not sure. (Y2k? ) fuel injection was a turning point IMO.

From both points of view probably

Apart from my first car and the Nova I famously "found" in my garage, all my own cars have been injection. I detest carbs with a passion, mainly because they are a sod to set up if you have more than 1.  I think the same with bikes, although every bike I've owned has had poxy carbs on

Yep - imagine 4 x amals on a full race 1293 A series, or 3 x 45 webers on the Dino - makes 2 x 2" SUs on the 4A seem p*ss easy.  Even worse to set up was the Lucas PI system on my '69 TR6.  (Fuel injection on TRs introduced in '67 on the TR5)

[Ever Ready]

Saw a nice looking 2500 outside the local b&q on Monday, brought back some memories both good and bad

Had a few trumpets from the 1300/1500fwd to a 2.5pi with a couple of dollys in between

Always wanted a Stag, might get one yet, you never know

[henryd]

The Cossie Grandad is a fair bit lighter than an Omega and doesn't give much away in power...

Tops out at 145 (apparently ) so yes, a plod 3.2 will pull away eventually... having owned both, I reckon it would be closer than you give the granny credit for

Having driven both I would agree with that,always found the 24v Granny bloody quick if a little challenging on the cosmetics

[henryd]

They sure were TB 

On the positive side you could snap a cam belt and fit a new one without a worry that you had munched the valves etc  biggest problem in the early days of the Pinto was getting hold of the 12 point spline tool for the head bolts The CVH engine on the other hand was a right P O S

No doubt they were slow compared to modern beasts but they did not overly flatter an average driver

Drive a mk3 Cortina quickish in the wet and you spent a lot of time looking out of the side windows   boiled the brake fluid in a few of them during a  'test' drive

I remember driving an XR4i Sierra when they came out   2.8rwd with no grip at all.  If I remember correctly the police down south somewhere stopping using them as they kept ending up in hedges backwards, must have had delusions of being a 911

It was Devon and cornwall,they had four of them and wrapped up three in short order,fourth was mothballed for a while then auctioned,a trader friend of mine bought it from the auction and I remember the milage was very low for and ex plod

they moved onto the 2.8/2.9 4x4's after that

[Ever Ready]

Thanks for the memory refresh henryd. I remember it better now

Three out of three is quite a result

When they changed to XR4x4 it was like night and day, lovely cars to drive even if they did like to chew through transfer shafts

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Ooh now on bikes its tother way IMO, carbs where at the end of their development, and EFI was the new kid on the block. And the early efforts with EFI where shocking. Trying to feed in fuel injection smoothly on the power in the rain while cranked over was a very tentative affair, due to a very snatchy delivery. So much so that the apex had long since sailed by.

How we know thats purely the mapping. Probably purposely done, like the 3.2 on initial throttle press, to get it everything at, say, 6k rpm all the way through to 12+k, giving it a good kick when you hit the power, making "injection" seem faster. Even though, in reality, it will kill you when it rains

My kawasaki GPZ 750 Turbo came with DFI way back in 1984.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Saw a nice looking 2500 outside the local b&q on Monday, brought back some memories both good and bad

Had a few trumpets from the 1300/1500fwd to a 2.5pi with a couple of dollys in between

Always wanted a Stag, might get one yet, you never know

My very first car FUE 756K......a 1972 Triumph 1500. I still have the SU spanner for adjusting the carb.

[Ever Ready]

Older than mine then JOS 580L

Did you ever have to change the drive shaft doughnuts? Not too bad when supplied new with the band around them but a tad difficult when you had liberated them from the local scrappy

The clutch on the other hand could be done while holding a cup of tea

Similar to the cavalier, I still have the 36mm socket used to get to the input shaft

[Sir Tigger KC]

Anyone used to get their car Crypton tuned? 

[Marks DTM Calib]

I used a crypton once under the guidance of Man Father....nothing it could do that you couldn't do with a few bits of gunsons kit.

I dont miss the days of tappet adjustment, regular plug changes, fiddling with carbs, changing points, swapping condensers, dizzy caps and rotor arms, changing the air flow setting on the panel air filter from summer to winter, manualy adjusting drum brakes, setting timing, adjusting dwell yada yada yada

Pulling cylinder heads every few years for a decoke

[Andy B]

.........

I dont miss the days of tappet adjustment, regular plug changes, fiddling with carbs, changing points, swapping condensers, dizzy caps and rotor arms, changing the air flow setting on the panel air filter from summer to winter, manualy adjusting drum brakes, setting timing, adjusting dwell yada yada yada

Pulling cylinder heads every few years for a decoke

Agreed!