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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #255 on: 28 March 2014, 10:59:11 »

Can you parachute successfully from a 777 especially if you have set the auto pilot for a faster speed?

Define successfully. I'm sure you could "successfully" get most of your body mass out through the door of a 777 flying at MACH 0.8. I suspect it'd end up looking like it'd been through a blender, though. ;)

If you got through that, you'd have to have enough oxygen with you to stay alive, and that wouldn't be trivial to arrange.

As wild theories go, it's not a very plausible one, IMHO, but one of the wild theories will prove to be true in the end. ;)
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #256 on: 28 March 2014, 10:59:56 »

OK, how about:


The pilots want to steal a valuable cargo of £M Diamonds in transit.
 
The passengers are neutralised by oxygen deprivation.(the 45,000 feet bit)

The perpetrators find the valuable cargo and their previously secreted parachutes.

Blow the door over the sea.

Set plane on auto pilot on this new course to the wilds of the Southern Indian Ocean

Parachute to waiting accomplices over or near land .


You've been watching too much 24 ;D
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #257 on: 28 March 2014, 11:01:03 »

Actually, I very much doubt a 777 would continue flying at cruising speed and altitude with a missing door.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #258 on: 28 March 2014, 11:47:49 »

Actually, I very much doubt a 777 would continue flying at cruising speed and altitude with a missing door.
It was missing on that harrison ford film air force one. :y
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #259 on: 28 March 2014, 12:07:40 »

Can you parachute successfully from a 777 especially if you have set the auto pilot for a faster speed?

Define successfully. I'm sure you could "successfully" get most of your body mass out through the door of a 777 flying at MACH 0.8. I suspect it'd end up looking like it'd been through a blender, though. ;)

If you got through that, you'd have to have enough oxygen with you to stay alive, and that wouldn't be trivial to arrange.

As wild theories go, it's not a very plausible one, IMHO, but one of the wild theories will prove to be true in the end. ;)
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #260 on: 28 March 2014, 12:33:33 »

OK, how about:


The pilots want to steal a valuable cargo of £M Diamonds in transit.
 
The passengers are neutralised by oxygen deprivation.(the 45,000 feet bit)

The perpetrators find the valuable cargo and their previously secreted parachutes.

Blow the door over the sea.

Set plane on auto pilot on this new course to the wilds of the Southern Indian Ocean

Parachute to waiting accomplices over or near land .


You've been watching too much 24 ;D

True and there is another one in the pipeline. Thing is the other theories are all a bit boring ???
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #261 on: 28 March 2014, 18:31:07 »

Unless i am proved wrong....which is highly likely  ::)

I still dont believe the aircraft crashed into the sea.... :-\

Why highjack an aircraft and then fly it for another 7 hours until it runs out of fuel??....then crash into the sea...doesnt make sense to me... :-\

My thinking....if you highjack a plane and want to crash it....why wait 7 hours?? (until it runs out fuel) ....just crash it now!......if you want to take out a building/etc....then do that! ....not wait until it runs out of fuel....whats that achieved??  :-\

Also, why turn off the 'tracking' bits and bobs.....if you were just going to crash it....doesnt make sense to me  :-\

IMHO the amount of debris being found, and its position relative to the "best guesses" of Inmarsat/UKAAIB unfortunately strongly point to this being a "debris field" from an impact with the sea caused after the aircraft ran out of fuel.....

Why hijack and then fly until it runs out of fuel ??? Several possibilities for that scenario ... a couple to ponder ....

1)  Botched hijack - they got the initial bits done then failed to fly to where they wanted to go ... possibly killed by their own attempts to incapacitate the crew & passengers

2) Elaborate suicide - someone with the mindset of taking their own life and as many others as they could with them - hijack the plane then fly as far as possible into a remote area in the hope that you are never found.

If this is the debris filed then the "political" hijack becomes remote, unless the botched/crew fight back scenario can be proven.

There then comes the technical fault scenario ... an attempt to turn back then crew incapacity leaving the aircraft on autopilot flying a straight line to oblivion - although why no radio calls is odd, but again, improbable theories may well actually be proved correct - eventually .....

I could believe that theory .....
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #262 on: 28 March 2014, 18:42:09 »

Can you parachute successfully from a 777 especially if you have set the auto pilot for a faster speed?

Define successfully. I'm sure you could "successfully" get most of your body mass out through the door of a 777 flying at MACH 0.8. I suspect it'd end up looking like it'd been through a blender, though. ;)

If you got through that, you'd have to have enough oxygen with you to stay alive, and that wouldn't be trivial to arrange.

As wild theories go, it's not a very plausible one, IMHO, but one of the wild theories will prove to be true in the end. ;)

Depends on how sophisticated 'auto pilots' are these days i guess.....can you program autopilots these days.....ie fly at a 1000ft as slowly as poss.....for 15 mins say (allowing time for the hijackers to parachute out.....tho i dont know whether thats possible either)....then climb to 30,000ft after applying lots of power  :-\ :-\
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #263 on: 28 March 2014, 19:19:41 »

Can you parachute successfully from a 777 especially if you have set the auto pilot for a faster speed?

Define successfully. I'm sure you could "successfully" get most of your body mass out through the door of a 777 flying at MACH 0.8. I suspect it'd end up looking like it'd been through a blender, though. ;)

If you got through that, you'd have to have enough oxygen with you to stay alive, and that wouldn't be trivial to arrange.

As wild theories go, it's not a very plausible one, IMHO, but one of the wild theories will prove to be true in the end. ;)

Depends on how sophisticated 'auto pilots' are these days i guess.....can you program autopilots these days.....ie fly at a 1000ft as slowly as poss.....for 15 mins say (allowing time for the hijackers to parachute out.....tho i dont know whether thats possible either)....then climb to 30,000ft after applying lots of power  :-\ :-\

Possibly, but an airliner won't fly that slow, even at low level in landing configuration. I still reckon you'd just end up with a nasty stain down the side of the fuselage. ;)

Not to say it hasn't got a nasty stain down the side, of course. ::)
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #264 on: 28 March 2014, 19:29:34 »

Hold access depends entirely on the aircraft configuration... but...

Most wide bodied aircraft are loaded with containers rather than loose luggage, so realistically you would need to be an inch wide to navigate around them, and know where what you were after was located. Better chance of reading a paper back whilst scuba diving than pulling that off tbh ::)
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #265 on: 28 March 2014, 23:45:21 »

OK, how about:


The pilots want to steal a valuable cargo of £M Diamonds in transit.
 
The passengers are neutralised by oxygen deprivation.(the 45,000 feet bit)

The perpetrators find the valuable cargo and their previously secreted parachutes.

Blow the door over the sea.

Set plane on auto pilot on this new course to the wilds of the Southern Indian Ocean

Parachute to waiting accomplices over or near land .

They know that no one will ever retrieve all the bodies


Few bits I don't like with that. How did they smuggle parachutes on board?
Can you get into the hold of an aircraft while it is in flight ? perhaps what they were after was in the cabin as hand luggage?
Can you parachute successfully from a 777 especially if you have set the auto pilot for a faster speed?

Or maybe the pilots via the airline passenger manifests see that a courier will be on-board hand carrying a high value shipment.They just need bolt cutters, but  bullet-tooth Tony has been hired for the job by franky four fingers CUT TO: MUSIC,
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #266 on: 29 March 2014, 00:19:41 »

Media are getting on my wick. Specifically, re the new search area.

"Does this mean (we/they/you) waisted a lot of time searching the wrong area?" Or the like.

Well, given nobody knows where the plane is, that implies we shouldn't look at all, for fear of looking the wrong place.

By definition, looking for something, means looking until something is found. Most of the time that means looking in the wrong place first. In order, by process of elimination, to find the correct place.  AAAAAAAH!

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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #267 on: 29 March 2014, 00:28:52 »

Just like Tbs bike keys... ::)
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« Reply #268 on: 29 March 2014, 10:12:46 »

Media are getting on my wick. Specifically, re the new search area.

"Does this mean (we/they/you) waisted a lot of time searching the wrong area?" Or the like.

Well, given nobody knows where the plane is, that implies we shouldn't look at all, for fear of looking the wrong place.

By definition, looking for something, means looking until something is found. Most of the time that means looking in the wrong place first. In order, by process of elimination, to find the correct place.  AAAAAAAH!

Yeah, retards. Why don't they just look where the plane is? ::)
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« Reply #269 on: 31 March 2014, 17:40:31 »

What I don't understand is, why when you're looking for something do you always find it (assuming you do find it) in the last place you look?  :D
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