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[milcho2005]

Hi guys i'm looking for Mantzel induction and Stetinmetz Saloon Facelift Front,rear bumpers and side Skirts.For offers please PM me or Milcho2005@abv.bg

[cem_devecioglu]

steinmetz body kit ok,


mantzel induction you will gain next to nothing..

[milcho2005]

What do you mean nothing?I had on my Vectra X30XE with custom induction like the Mantzel one and a lightweight flywheel it gained 223 BHP on the Dyno

[humbucker]

"it gained 223 BHP"

I don't think it *gained* 223bhp... 223bhp total?! 

[milcho2005]

Yes,sorry for the bad English

[tunnie]

Body kit is hard to come by, some may say rare 

Induction thingy, not worth it. Might as well buy some magic beans, that will help performance just as much 

[cem_devecioglu]

this air box wont create any extra power.. if you fill it up with water and compare to your original tubes you wont see an important  volume increase..


plus if you want to increase induction pressure to replicate helmholtz resonance this design is wrong.. the only effect it may have (in case it has higher volume) is momentary throttle response (which is also dependant on other factors) ..


as for the dyno results,most of them are rarely calibrated frequently and the results are valid if yours is manual..  measuring autos on dyno may lead to very misleading results..

[serek]

if the box wont work company like Mantzel wont bring this on market,
to get best of box you need get car (ecu) remap or chip

[cem_devecioglu]

if the box wont work company like Mantzel wont bring this on market,
to get best of box you need get car (ecu) remap or chip

Serek , I know you are a knowledgeable man..  but those companies had to earn money..  I have spent lots of time reading searching on those na inlet manifold mods and never seen some racer or company using this sh*t design..

[zirk]

Mantzel Boxes quiet rare now, might be worth PM'ing Paul K, member on here, as I believe He got something similar made up from scratch.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=117991.0

[joff]

not mine but like this.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-omega-b-steinmetz-kit-/301163558581?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item461ebf36b5

[joff]

not mine but like this.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-omega-b-steinmetz-kit-/301163558581?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item461ebf36b5

Sorry, it said it did not fit his car which was a facelift

[biggriffin]

if the box wont work company like Mantzel wont bring this on market,
to get best of box you need get car (ecu) remap or chip

Serek , I know you are a knowledgeable man..  but those companies had to earn money..  I have spent lots of time reading searching on those na inlet manifold mods and never seen some racer or company using this sh*t design..

we have to remember cem is a "doctor""a painter""and now an engine tuner" also does a lot of internet research so must be true

[milcho2005]

Mantzel is a very respectable Opel tuner.Also i have a living proof that it gains BHP,so no need to convince me that it won't work.

[biggriffin]

Mantzel is a very respectable Opel tuner.Also i have a living proof that it gains BHP,so no need to convince me that it won't work.

only cem needs convincing.