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[Shackeng]

IIRC that is a long downhill stretch, so quite believable that brakes could have been overheated and not much use by then, especially if he was motoring to start with.

[tidla]

Looks like an older scania, possibly with drums all round?

Poorly adjusted brakes with hot shoes and drums, full load and a keen driver..

Took me two goes to get thru the test at 27. doubt i would of had the skills required at 19.

but the driver obviously had because he passed the test ........ let's not hang him before we know the facts.

Agreed. My car test at 18 took two goes too.

[Vamps]

Looks like an older scania, possibly with drums all round?

Poorly adjusted brakes with hot shoes and drums, full load and a keen driver..

Took me two goes to get thru the test at 27. doubt i would of had the skills required at 19.

but the driver obviously had because he passed the test ........ let's not hang him before we know the facts.

Agreed. My car test at 18 took two goes too.

Motorcycle..............first attempt
Car........................first attempt
PSV.......................first attempt
HGV1....................first attempt
IAM CAR................first attempt....................

[Andy B]

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 My car test at 18 took two goes too.

Passed mine first time at 17  and the following year passed bike test 

[Andy B]

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Motorcycle..............first attempt
Car........................first attempt
PSV.......................first attempt
HGV1....................first attempt
IAM CAR................first attempt....................

Can I include my fork truck licence & MEWP licence? 

[Terbs]

When trucks decide not to play, they don't give a toss who is behind the wheel. Early reports state he was blowing his horn on the way down...seems to me like a sensible head, albeit young, on his shoulders. Not sure of speed, but he could have tried to bale out.!!!!!
In Wycombe, over the years, we have had plenty of runaways down the two hills into town, including a petrol tanker. Surprised the town was not blown to kingdom come, I went down one day on the way to work, and saw my dad parked in a line of cars.......due to a runaway, all the drivers side of the car had been ripped off. And that one was a bloke with years of experience driving.
And the driver ages in other cases has varied too

[kevinp58]

looking at the photo of him he looked like a pikey 

[05omegav6]

Car third attempt... I still dislike Crawley
DSA Taxi test first attempt, two minors
LGV2 first attempt, five minors
LGV1 second attempt four minors (first attempt only had two faults, one being the reverse exercise )
Most recently constabulary non response driving vompetency test for most everything in the fleet...

And if Andy B is allowed forklift and mewps, them I shall add airside driving at Gatwick, Heathrow, Stansted, Luton and Cardiff 

[Terbs]

Car third attempt... I still dislike Crawley
DSA Taxi test first attempt, two minors
LGV2 first attempt, five minors
LGV1 second attempt four minors (first attempt only had two faults, one being the reverse exercise )
Most recently constabulary non response driving vompetency test for most everything in the fleet...

And if Andy B is allowed forklift and mewps, them I shall add airside driving at Gatwick, Heathrow, Stansted, Luton and Cardiff 

That's not allowed....that is just down to bad navigation

[TheBoy]

Ah yes, the beeb is in full Daily Fail outrage, and needs to blame somebody because a child was killed.

Whilst we don't know the facts, it seems likely that the poor lad lost control of the vehicle and did everything he could to regain, then warn everyone. Could any of us, or some oppswit idiot who can't get a real job so has to be a journalist idiot, do any better?  Likely not, and remember we do not know the full circumstances.

Twist it another way. Grandma and kiddie on a crossing with a hunk of iron barrelling towards you blaring horns. Couldn't they have moved a bit quicker?  But nobody would suggest that as a possible solution to avoidance, as it would be socially unacceptable.

[Vamps]

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Motorcycle..............first attempt
Car........................first attempt
PSV.......................first attempt
HGV1....................first attempt
IAM CAR................first attempt....................

Can I include my fork truck licence & MEWP licence? 

In the early 80's I was subbing to Rothamans, driving a forklift with a cage on holding propane bottles, keeping the heating going in the factory, no fork lift licences in those days....

Old skool  people are getting towards retirement, new legislation is making it harder to work, wont be long before there will be a shortage of HGV/PSV drivers, and they keep the country running................

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Looks like an older scania, possibly with drums all round?

Poorly adjusted brakes with hot shoes and drums, full load and a keen driver..

Took me two goes to get thru the test at 27. doubt i would of had the skills required at 19.

but the driver obviously had because he passed the test ........ let's not hang him before we know the facts.

Agreed. My car test at 18 took two goes too.

Motorcycle..............first attempt
Car........................first attempt
PSV.......................first attempt
HGV1....................first attempt
IAM CAR................first attempt....................

Nobody likes a smartarse.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Ah yes, the beeb is in full Daily Fail outrage, and needs to blame somebody because a child was killed.

Whilst we don't know the facts, it seems likely that the poor lad lost control of the vehicle and did everything he could to regain, then warn everyone. Could any of us, or some oppswit idiot who can't get a real job so has to be a journalist idiot, do any better?  Likely not, and remember we do not know the full circumstances.

Twist it another way. Grandma and kiddie on a crossing with a hunk of iron barrelling towards you blaring horns. Couldn't they have moved a bit quicker?  But nobody would suggest that as a possible solution to avoidance, as it would be socially unacceptable.

His fault or not.....he is going to feel sooooo bad about what happened.

[05omegav6]

Death by dangerous driving for the lad and gross criminal negligence for the transport manager/boss

Suggests that the truck was poorly maintained and the driver didn't carry out/record his daily checks

[joshwyatt]

I travel that road often, it is very steep indeed. It is NSL, then 20 with a newly introduced chicane.

Al - You've driven the route aswell.

If faulty brakes are part of the equation, he did well to avert an even worse incident! Still, a terrible tragedy.