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[pernix]

Bought a new idler less than 2500 miles ago (fitted in june ) today failed mot on play in  idler  anything else that could cause it to fail so quickly or is it just down to a poor quality part

[Shallow Al]

Have to say, it would seem to be a poor part. Quite a few seem to be rubbish from new. Where did you get it?, who fitted it?
I mean, any chance of taking it back?

[chrisgixer]

Noooo you don't want "a new" idler. You want a GM idler. Genuine only. Which means from a dealer. Only. Or good used one if possible.

Sadly they are proven to be the ONLY reliable part. Why "sadly"? Because they are £110 retail (£90 odd trade)

Even the Lemforder ones don't last. Oe supplier.

[pernix]

came from vauhallparts uk and fitted by local garage......seller says if I send it back they will examine it to see if its faulty  (not much good to me as the car will be unusable in the time it takes) easier to get another and mot pass

[chrisgixer]

came from vauhallparts uk and fitted by local garage......seller says if I send it back they will examine it to see if its faulty  (not much good to me as the car will be unusable in the time it takes) easier to get another and mot pass

Yep, get a gm one, wack that on get yourself sorted, send the pattern shite one back for a refund. You won't want another one of those. Noooooooo

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Seconded. GM new, or known good second hand the only way to go. A known good second hand is what's going on my lady either as preventative maintenance or when the current one goes wobbly 

[Marks DTM Calib]

I fitted a Lemforder a few months ago and it appeared to be back to the original quality which makes me wonder if there was some dodgy copies in the system for a while. It even had the same casting marks as the original Gm part (and as we know Lemforder, make these for Gm)

So the Lemforder part number is 14927 01 (Vx part number 9195731) and interestingly, they now supply the insert bush against part number 11602 03 (and show a Vx part number of 920361.....which may or may not exist)

[chrisgixer]

Interesting. Both the lemorders I saw had no markings what so ever. Iirc

Swapping the insert out would be the way to go on cost.

[chrisgixer]

Do you know if the part is still good?

[Marks DTM Calib]

Absolutely fine, still as tight as a Nuns chuff 

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Won't ask how you know that.. 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Won't ask how you know that.. 

I grabbed it and gave it a good wiggle

[05omegav6]

Presumably nothing fell off...

[unlucky alf]

Bought a new idler less than 2500 miles ago (fitted in june ) today failed mot on play in  idler  anything else that could cause it to fail so quickly or is it just down to a poor quality part

I had the same thing happen to me a couple of years ago, It turned out that the pin it is mounted on had also worn so a new idler on it's own wasn't enough, I first went & got a quote from VX dealers for the idler & pin, Then after picking myself off the floor I decided to hunt the scrap yards, Luckily I found an assembly that looked virtually new & genuine VX so I grabbed that & stuck it on, Problem solved , If you do go the used route I would suggest leaving the idler arm on the pin & just unbolt it as complete assembly (2 bolts in the inner wing) as some things are best left undisturbed.

[chrisgixer]

It would be good just to replace the inner rubber bushing, especially if we could avoid undoing that ball joint to idler arm pita.

Although removing the inner takes a good swing with hammer and drift. Or maybe a bearing puller might work? 

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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=121732.15