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Re: DPF impending doom?
« Reply #15 on: 14 October 2015, 08:43:19 »

DPF is only checked on mot as to being present  :y
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Re: DPF impending doom?
« Reply #16 on: 14 October 2015, 08:47:28 »

Should also add on the 1st set of data....7000 miles into an oil change, so would beleive the cars interpretation of remaining oil life, so presume DPF life also accurateish.

at 7000 miles im starting to think about doing my oil change!  but the car claims to be happy with it even if im not!

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Re: DPF impending doom?
« Reply #17 on: 14 October 2015, 10:29:00 »

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Engine Oil Change Warning (DPF Regenerations)   Inactive
Remaining DPF Regenerations   67%

I interpret that to be the percentage of DPF regenerations before it warns for an oil change, not DPF life. I assume each DPF regen potentially contaminates the oil with fuel, so it's a factor in the oil change calculation. :-\
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Re: DPF impending doom?
« Reply #18 on: 14 October 2015, 10:38:07 »

For what it's worth, one of my vans was running with no fluid (Peugeot so fluid dpf, not dry like yours) for well over 25k, without my knowledge, due to damage. I have just replaced the reservoir, pump and fluid bag, had a chat with the Pug version of Tech 2 and all is good even though the ECU was saying it was toast!

A forced regen is worth trying IMO. Removal is not as cheap as I first thought (I was looking into it as an option on said van).

Another possibility that I have seen banded about (I accept no credit/responsibility for this, just seen online from a few different forum sources) is to take it off and pressure wash it, then let it dry before refitting.
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Re: DPF impending doom?
« Reply #19 on: 14 October 2015, 10:45:20 »

Check the usual's:

EGR state
MAP sensor
DPF pressure sensor pipe (I have now replaced mine with rubber from the metal part right to the sensor as it split slightly further up....and it only ever flagged an occasional exhaust temperature sensor code)

Mine is on 148k miles and the DPF is regenerating about every 800 miles or so, when new it was about every 1000miles but, they do slowly fill with ash.

Alternative is a visit and we pop it off, cut the top off , remove internals, seam weld back together and refit ready for programming out by a-n-other.

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Re: DPF impending doom?
« Reply #20 on: 14 October 2015, 12:15:23 »

Any MOT Testers care to say how they are checked?  to my knowledge removal is smashing the innards out and a reprog rather than replaing with plain pipe?

Visual check to make sure its there(or looks like it is ::)) and a normal diesel test which it'll piss through with or without its innards :y
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Re: DPF impending doom?
« Reply #21 on: 14 October 2015, 12:19:01 »

Any MOT Testers care to say how they are checked?  to my knowledge removal is smashing the innards out and a reprog rather than replaing with plain pipe?

Visual check to make sure its there(or looks like it is ::)) and a normal diesel test which it'll piss through with or without its innards :y
AFAIK it's only a smoke test.

The only way I would have diesel car, and I must admit the mpg makes one attractive, is if it was on lease. No worries about DPF problems then.
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Re: DPF impending doom?
« Reply #22 on: 14 October 2015, 12:45:23 »

remove it and get the car re mapped.

They cant check it if they cant see it or are too stupid enough which most of them are to see that its been removed.

If its done properly very unlikely youd get a fail. same stuff coming out the exhuast with ot without it.
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Re: DPF impending doom?
« Reply #23 on: 14 October 2015, 13:37:57 »

and for completeness  : (Im not sure 26% satuartion in 145km is right....unless dpf not fully regenning?)

Battery Voltage   14.2 V
Ignition Status   On  12V
Starter Relay   Inactive
Fuel Pump Relay   Active
APP at Idle Position (Accelerator Pedal Position)   Active
APP Sensor 1 (Accelerator Pedal Position)   0.96 V
APP Sensor 2 (Accelerator Pedal Position)   0.47 V
Calculated Pedal Position   0%
Desired Engine Idle Speed   800 RPM
Engine Speed   801 RPM
Camshaft Speed   400 RPM
Idle Speed Modified   No
Calculated Air Flow   42 kg/h
Mass Air Flow Sensor   49 kg/h
Ambient Temperature   6 °C
Charge Air Temperature   40 °C
Charge Air Temperature   2.46 V
Coolant Temperature   62 °C
Coolant Temperature   2.07 V
Oil Level   Normal
Oil Pressure   Normal
Engine Oil Level Status   Okay
B1S1 Exhaust Gas Temperature (Bank 1 Sensor 1)   88 °C
B1S1 Exhaust Gas Temperature (Bank 1 Sensor 1)   1.0 V
B1S2 Exhaust Gas Temperature (Bank 1 Sensor 2)   72 °C
B1S2 Exhaust Gas Temperature (Bank 1 Sensor 2)   1.0 V
Barometric Pressure   102 kPa
Barometric Pressure   4.00 V
Boost Pressure Command   104 kPa
Boost Pressure   102 kPa
Boost Pressure   1.64 V
Pulse Ratio Boost Pressure Solenoid Valve   59%
EGR Position Commanded (Exhaust Gas Recirculation)   100%
EGR Pulse Ratio (Exhaust Gas Recirculation)   4%
Swirl Level Control Solenoid Valve Pulse Ratio   89%
Throttle Position PWM Servo Signal   5%
Desired Common Rail Fuel Pressure   27.42 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure   28.13 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure   1.11 V
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve PWM   0%
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve Current   0.00 a
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve PWM   36%
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve Current   1.40%
Fuel Temperature   18 °C
Fuel Temperature   3.40 V
A/C Information Switch   Active
A/C Cutoff Mode (Air Conditioning)   System OK
A/C Pressure (Air Conditioning)   1.095 kPa
A/C Pressure (Air Conditioning)   1.6 V
A/C Relay (Air Conditioning)   Active
Brake Switch 1   Inactive
Brake Switch 2   Inactive
Clutch Switch   Active
Vehicle Speed   0 km/h
Vehicle Speed in Cruise Control Range   Inactive
Vehicle Acceleration   0.0 m/s2
Cruise Control Tip Switch   Inactive
Cruise Control   Inactive
Engine Torque   17 Nm
Torque Control   Inactive
Requested Torque (Traction Control)   0 Nm
Remaining Oil Life   65%
Engine Oil Change Warning   Inactive
Malfunction Indicator (MI)   Off
Service Vehicle Soon (SVS) Indicator   Off
Glow Time Relay   Inactive 12V
Glow Time Telltale   Off 12V
Diagnosis Glow Time Relay   Active
Main Injection Timing   0.0 °CA
Final Fuel Injection Amount   8.6 mm3/stk
Differential Pressure Diesel Particulate Filter   -2 kPa
Differential Pressure Diesel Particulate Filter   0.41 V
Diesel Particulate Filter Saturation   26%
Dist. Since Last DPF Regeneration (Distance)   145 km
DPF Regeneration   0%
Odometer Value   152.724 km
Tank Sensor   0.00 V
Fan Control 1   Inactive
Fan Control 2   Inactive
Fan Control 3   Inactive
your DPF  need forced regen. as atm its blocked thats why you have so many regen try recently
what diagnostic tool you use ?

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Re: DPF impending doom?
« Reply #24 on: 14 October 2015, 14:21:43 »

I've a Chinese op. Com. Sure it can do it. I'll get it hot and have a go
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