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AVG IT Security alert
« on: 30 December 2015, 18:02:32 »

Sorry guys, i missed this one recently due to workload and holiday.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35198435

Looks like an auto update might be disabled so plese check your version if you have it installed, or better still remove it and install a better AV.
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #1 on: 30 December 2015, 22:36:24 »

Glad I don't use chrome, despite the many attempts by third party software to load it on me. >:(
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #2 on: 30 December 2015, 22:48:38 »

Do people still use AVG?  :o
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #3 on: 31 December 2015, 11:11:46 »

Do people still use AVG?  :o

I do, seems to work well (free version). :y
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #4 on: 31 December 2015, 16:14:29 »

Do people still use AVG?  :o

I do, seems to work well (free version). :y
I do too, but then again i,m a old Ludite. ;)
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #5 on: 31 December 2015, 17:54:11 »

Do people still use AVG?  :o
Or Chrome? :o
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #6 on: 01 January 2016, 10:36:17 »

Do people still use AVG?  :o
Or Chrome? :o

TBH I still use Chrome as I like the bookmark bar under the address bar, and nobody has yet pointed out why Chrome is vunerable, only that it is  ;)
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #7 on: 01 January 2016, 13:55:15 »

Tbh chrome probably was more vulnerable but they have done a lot of work to catch up.

What I don't like about chrome is how memory hungry the bloody thing is, esp when using of all things Google apps. I still have met one browser that meets all my needs so I swap and change depending on what I am doing.
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #8 on: 02 January 2016, 10:51:01 »

Do people still use AVG?  :o
Or Chrome? :o

TBH I still use Chrome as I like the bookmark bar under the address bar, and nobody has yet pointed out why Chrome is vunerable, only that it is  ;)
The security mechanism that Chrome uses has been repeatedly, comprehensively broken. Not withstanding the reasons that Google created it, until it is rearchitectured from the ground up, it cannot be properly fixed.

*IF* you must use Chrome - and it'd need to be a VERY good reason - remember to log on to Windows with a **LIMITED** user account (not Admin!!) and ensure that UAC is at it's highest, most annoying, setting.
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #9 on: 03 January 2016, 11:33:50 »

Cheers TB  :y thanks for the info  ;)

I`m assuming that these vulnerabilities would only apply if you were actually targeted?
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #10 on: 03 January 2016, 23:12:16 »

Do people still use AVG?  :o

They do, but most don't understand the difference between various AV's.  Free version may be all someone wants/needs, may not use the pc for anything requiring great security.
I for one wouldn't be using a free version of anything where the likes of internet banking is concerned.
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #11 on: 04 January 2016, 10:12:23 »

TBH I think the comments you make, TB, on Chrome are a little unfair.  Security updates happen twice a month instead of monthly for most other browsers so there is less time between vulnerabilities and fixes.  IE6, launched 14 odd years ago, still had a dozen or so vulnerabilities last year (and yes people still use it for backward compatibility issues) which doesn't bode well for any more recent versions of IE.  Chrome is also the only browser to sandbox flash video (hence the heavy resource requirement) and flash is a major vulnerability to any browser.  To suggest that IE or any other browser does not have weaknesses in it's security would be a misnomer.  Both Chrome and IE have about the same number of reported vulnerabilities each year.  Opera is a pile of poo as is Firefox.  I only have the latter installed in order to perform tests for my current client who is getting ditched end of this week :y
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #12 on: 04 January 2016, 17:50:03 »

TBH I think the comments you make, TB, on Chrome are a little unfair.  Security updates happen twice a month instead of monthly for most other browsers so there is less time between vulnerabilities and fixes.  IE6, launched 14 odd years ago, still had a dozen or so vulnerabilities last year (and yes people still use it for backward compatibility issues) which doesn't bode well for any more recent versions of IE.  Chrome is also the only browser to sandbox flash video (hence the heavy resource requirement) and flash is a major vulnerability to any browser.  To suggest that IE or any other browser does not have weaknesses in it's security would be a misnomer.  Both Chrome and IE have about the same number of reported vulnerabilities each year.  Opera is a pile of poo as is Firefox.  I only have the latter installed in order to perform tests for my current client who is getting ditched end of this week :y
IE's biggest advantages, security wise, are the fact it updates with Windows, and that MS were an early target, and have been through the rough times.  Its weakness is that a) Its users are stupid (run as Admin, knock off UAC coz the bloke down the pub said so), b) it supports plugins quite openly (which coupled with a) makes for a perfect storm).

The reason that Flash and Java are so heavily attacked now is that the core OS and browser combo are pretty secure, and the likes of Adobe and Oracle have never written much with security in the forefront.

MS's answer is Edge, but possibly a shade early for mainstream usage...   ...though I'm trying to use it daily to get to understand it better.


Chrome's problem is both a) and b) above, but also includes c) - it utterly relies on a broken sandbox design for its security (on Windows. On unrooted Android, you have the inherent OS security to help).

FF was in a similar position, but hopefully has been through the worse of it.  As a day to day browser, I'd recommend FF over Chrome from a security standpoint. Still suffers a) and b) though.

Opera is not really a browser, so I'll ignore that for now.

Safari on Windows, like all Apple software running on Windows, leads to some interesting security issues that are not technically the fault of Apple of MS, such as the now (partially) fixed blended vulnerability saving files with default settings, esp when taken with a).


I type this on Edge, as there are no ads on OOF to slow it to a crawl.
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #13 on: 04 January 2016, 17:54:52 »

Do people still use AVG?  :o

They do, but most don't understand the difference between various AV's.  Free version may be all someone wants/needs, may not use the pc for anything requiring great security.
I for one wouldn't be using a free version of anything where the likes of internet banking is concerned.
On Windows, I tend to use MS SE under Win7 and the built in Defender under W10. Mainly for its integrated update mechanism, and its light weight.

Sadly, on my works Win8 laptop - a fast 4th gen i5, 8gb ram, ssd, I have to run an Enterprise AV solution, and the thing runs like a dog :(
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Re: AVG IT Security alert
« Reply #14 on: 04 January 2016, 18:30:25 »

Defender for 10 is really rather good.

UAC just boils my piss, so I have it well and truly OFF.  I run as Admin, in fact, it's the only user account on this laptop.... I don't even have a Windows Startup password (Yes, I know I cant use Cortana, it's shit anyway).

I download stuff from naughty sites, Games for example (just for a demo, you understand).  Not had a problem yet.  If you just click willy-nilly on 'stuff' you're bound to encounter problems, even on supposedly trusted sites.

Windows 10, Defender, FF with AdBlock+

I honestly, hand on heart, would not suggest even an intermediately skilled user to install an Anti-Virus program... Divvy twits on the other-hand, well, install 10 of them to run side-by-side.  That's what they do anyway!  >:(
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