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[Entwood]

Irmscher kit was factory fitted, and to my knowledge has never been removed, so its had 15 years to corrode to its hearts content ... I certainly never thought to check behind the skirts

[Andy B]

Irmscher kit was factory fitted, and to my knowledge has never been removed, so its had 15 years to corrode to its hearts content ... I certainly never thought to check behind the skirts

The sills on my Senator were 'a bit frilly' behind the plastic covers when I sold it  ...... 

[EMD]

Irmscher kit was factory fitted, and to my knowledge has never been removed, so its had 15 years to corrode to its hearts content ... I certainly never thought to check behind the skirts

The sills on my Senator were 'a bit frilly' behind the plastic covers when I sold it  ...... 

 Is that a posh word for crusty   

[05omegav6]

Hmm. Sorry to hear this. Sounds like it might be worth all of us having the skirts off and rustproofing the mounting points...

It's probably a bit late for that if a well-cared for car like Nigel's is that bad.

Depends. IIRC, Nigel's has the Irmscher kit. Wondering if they were disturbed when that got fitted?

My white one didn't and was never plod damaged, no side damage to it ever fwiw, and it's pretty grotty in places...

Where the rubbers attach, where crud collects behind the arch liners and where the kick plates clip on are all as likely to have corrosion starting

[aaronjb]

Irmscher kit was factory fitted, and to my knowledge has never been removed, so its had 15 years to corrode to its hearts content ... I certainly never thought to check behind the skirts

Was it fitted by Vx with self tappers through the outer cills?

[05omegav6]

Irmscher kit was factory fitted, and to my knowledge has never been removed, so its had 15 years to corrode to its hearts content ... I certainly never thought to check behind the skirts

Was it fitted by Vx with self tappers through the outer cills?

Shouldn't have been, uses all the fittings of the original ones...

[TheBoy]

Irmscher kit was factory fitted

/Panto mode

Oh no it wasn't

/Panto off


The I-Line stuff was never a factory option, hence has to be fully declared for insurance purposes.

[05omegav6]

Irmscher kit was factory fitted

/Panto mode

Oh no it wasn't

/Panto off


The I-Line stuff was never a factory option, hence has to be fully declared for insurance purposes.

It is a brochure option, so if fitted from new, ie prior to delivery to the original customer, then to all intents and purposes, it's a factory fit item, regardless of which Gm employee fitted it

[Entwood]

Irmscher kit was factory fitted

/Panto mode

Oh no it wasn't

/Panto off


The I-Line stuff was never a factory option, hence has to be fully declared for insurance purposes.

I'll bow to your expertise .. but I'm sure the paperwork that came with the car said it was a "Special Order" or something similar .. perhaps it was dealer fitted ?? but it was certainly fitted "from new" ..

It is always declared as a "factory fitted option" for Insurance.. and they always accept it as such

[TheBoy]

Irmscher kit was factory fitted

/Panto mode

Oh no it wasn't

/Panto off


The I-Line stuff was never a factory option, hence has to be fully declared for insurance purposes.

I'll bow to your expertise .. but I'm sure the paperwork that came with the car said it was a "Special Order" or something similar .. perhaps it was dealer fitted ?? but it was certainly fitted "from new" ..

It is always declared as a "factory fitted option" for Insurance.. and they always accept it as such

It's dealer fit (so not fitted by GM employees, Mr Al).

As such, its not on the options list when selecting a new car, so an insurance company can invalidate insurance (if they looked hard enough - TBH, everything is instant write off now)

[TheBoy]

It's dealer fit

And thus aftermarket.

[Entwood]

OK .. take the point .. just looked up the EPC and there is this statement at the top of the i-line page ,,,

"THE FOLLOWING LIST CONTAINS OPEL I LINE / VAUXHALL I LINE PRODUCTS. THE LIST IS INTENDED FOR AFTERSALES FITTING AND ALSO FOR SERVICE REPLACEMENT. ALL NUMBERS ARE PRECEEDED BY AN "I". FOR THE ORDERING PROCEDURE PLEASE NOTE THAT ORDER NUMBERS WITH SEVEN DIGITS THE "I" IS REPLACED WITH A 7. FOR ORDER NUMBERS WITH 3 OR 4 DIGITS THE "I" HAS TO BE DROPPED. THE ORDERING PROCEDURE IS CARRIED OUT BETWEEN THE OPEL / VAUXHALL RETAILER AND IRMSCHER INTERNATIONAL IN GERMANY. IT CAN ALSO BE CARRIED OUT BY THE RESPECTIVE IRMSCHER AGENT IN THE COUNTRIES."

It's also a tad interesting that my version of the EPC does not list any i-line stuff for the 3.2 at all !  all seems to stop at 3.0

[TheBoy]

So that's sorted that then

I declare mine for piece of mind. In reality, adds next to nothing to premium, as already had mods (such as LPG) that definitely needs to be declared. Hopefully, I'll never need the insurance, but nice to know its "right" IMHO

[Entwood]

Well .. got the car back all done ... they couldn't obtain outer cills from any source, not even the one I gave them from the link, so they fabricated some themselves. All looks good from the outside, but I obviously cannot see under the skirts and have to take their word for it !! Always been trustworthy in the past so no real doubts from me.

Total cost of the welding work .. £400 inc the dreaded VAT, pretty happy with that TBH.

Two advisories ... 1) front discs pitted on outer edge ... yup .. 2 years old so need changing again .. what is the recommended heat proof paint to use to try and prevent this recurring problem ??

2) Exhaust corroded ..   Slightly odd as its a Stainless system .. but he took me under and showed me ... the flanges and bolts where the SS sections join are obviously NOT SS !! They are on pretty poor condition, and I'm not sure how to fix them TBH ... I doubt they'll come off easily .. I might just wire brush them up and paint with de-ruster and see what I end up with .....

But I have a year to sort that ....   

[Nick W]

Two advisories ... 1) front discs pitted on outer edge ... yup .. 2 years old so need changing again .. what is the recommended heat proof paint to use to try and prevent this recurring problem ??

Does it actually cause a problem? If not, you need a software solution and not a hardware one: read the advisory and ignore it.