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[STEMO]

....and what about the aural element of the equation?

Pardon?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

....and what about the aural element of the equation?

Does a Tesla sound as evocative as a V12 Ferrari?

[Sir Tigger KC]

....and what about the aural element of the equation?

Does a Tesla sound as evocative as a V12 Ferrari?

Doesn't matter M'lud, if you've got good tunes on your device the volume should be cranked up anyway! 

As I've generally driven bangers the music is usually at the required level to drown out any funny knocks or noises! 

[05omegav6]

....and what about the aural element of the equation?

Does a Tesla sound as evocative as a V12 Ferrari?

It's a different perspective, but set the brakes to maximum regeneration and it's so quiet you can hear the person behind shit themselves every time you lift off

[Gaffers]

I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv.

Indeed.  I have no interest in them, they are not the future.

For the most part people buy 'milk floats' with their head and not their heart. They appeal to people who have little or no interest in a car other than knowing it will get them from A to B...........provided the oversized PP9 doesn't go flat.

Still, not to worry, a quick eight hour charge will soon get you going again.

Guess again...

https://youtu.be/oQ9omrZ9hSA

And...

https://youtu.be/_nQDU7HOStc

Not so cocky now

Hmmm....Monster and instant torque gets it off the line pretty smartly, but it runs out of steam about half way down the strip.

I imagine it would be slower still as the battery charge diminishes.

Wrong again.

The system is programmed to keep the batteries below the 100% capacity on a "full" charge and to a certain level at which their life can be maintained before being "Empty".  Regardless of what the driver is told by the system the car is never really 100% full or 0% empty, it's more intelligent than that.  Thus throughout the charge range there is no discernable difference in torque from the (not so) loud pedal until you reach what is known on the Leaf as turtle mode where you are limited by the car as to how much torque you can apply because you literally have a couple of miles range left.

I have, on one occasion in the early days of EV ownership, coasted in to the Nissan dealership for a rapid charge (the ChaMoDo rapid chargers you see in service stations; 0-90% charge in 40 mins) having just ran out of charge and having been on the turtle for the last 5 miles which was downhill, fortunately.

This explaination is not for you Lord Opti as I know you'll never change your mind on them, but I wouldn't want your false aspertions putting other people off

[Andy B]

... until you reach what is known on the Leaf as turtle mode ... because you literally have a couple of miles range left.

I have, on one occasion in the early days of EV ownership, coasted in to the Nissan dealership for a rapid charge (the ChaMoDo rapid chargers you see in service stations; 0-90% charge in 40 mins) having just ran out of charge and having been on the turtle for the last 5 miles which was downhill, fortunately.
 ........

It's the lack of an alternative power supply that would put me off an all electric Leaf or B Class etc If you put one of thses in your boot, would that make it a Hybrid? 

[2boxerdogs]

Read all these posts, without doubt I am with Opti no desire whatsoever for an electric car, petrol big engine all the way for me ! The rumble of a V8 or the silence of a "milk float" no contest in my book.

[ted_one]

V8 V8 V8   Not to worried about the fact that a Tesla beat VXR8 in a drag race by point something of a second.I like many will stick with something hot and throbbing.....that's probably a metaphor for something else,not sure what tho'

[Gaffers]

You forget my other motor is an XJR.

EV's have their place and will become more commonplace as time goes on and the tech improves/costs come down.  That doesn't mean they are the end of the fossil fuel car

[BazaJT]

Whether EV's are the future as opposed to say gas power or not the main drawbacks at present seem to be lack of range and poor supporting infrastructure such as charging points.Of course not just anyone can work on/repair them as they need special facilities for discharging batteries in order to do so safely.However development will see ranges increase,more people buying them will see infrastructure improve and so on.Let's not forget the internal combustion engine vehicles have had 100+yrs of development to get where they are today.

[Kevin Wood]

It's the lack of an alternative power supply that would put me off an all electric Leaf or B Class etc If you put one of thses in your boot, would that make it a Hybrid? 

I've always wondered if you could charge an electric car (gradually, of course) from something like that, or whether it instantly tries to draw 16 amps from whatever you plug it into, then throws its' toys out if it can't.

I could see myself using one as a commuting car, but I wouldn't want something as large as a leaf for that. 2 seats, enough luggage space for a laptop and a packed lunch would do me. I wouldn't drive a deathtrap like a Renault Twizy, though, and the thought of French electrics and a ruddy great Li-Po battery fills me with dread. Electric MX5 would be perfect.

It wouldn't replace any of our current 3 cars either, so would have to find somewhere to park it too.

[TD]

It's the lack of an alternative power supply that would put me off an all electric Leaf or B Class etc If you put one of thses in your boot, would that make it a Hybrid? 

I've always wondered if you could charge an electric car (gradually, of course) from something like that, or whether it instantly tries to draw 16 amps from whatever you plug it into, then throws its' toys out if it can't.

I could see myself using one as a commuting car, but I wouldn't want something as large as a leaf for that. 2 seats, enough luggage space for a laptop and a packed lunch would do me. I wouldn't drive a deathtrap like a Renault Twizy, though, and the thought of French electrics and a ruddy great Li-Po battery fills me with dread. Electric MX5 would be perfect.

It wouldn't replace any of our current 3 cars either, so would have to find somewhere to park it too.

Neighbours driveway would be ideal, especially if you convinced them "that the battery was a bit low an would you mind if I plugged this low power trickle changer into your socket in the garage"   

[ted_one]

My commuting days are over so an EV is not ever going to figure in my life,but having said that I can appreciate the attraction of the EV as a commuter and as technology takes care of any shortcomings I think there will be more and more people making an informed choice as to wether an EV is the way to go. As to fossil fuels...my neighbour is a geologist for a large oil company and he assures me that all the gloom and doom about dwindling oil reserves is an absolute load of old cobblers,he agrees that yes the oil will eventually run out,but he says that there are vast reserves yet to be tapped into and so electrickery and oil burners will co exist for many moons to come.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv.

Indeed.  I have no interest in them, they are not the future.

For the most part people buy 'milk floats' with their head and not their heart. They appeal to people who have little or no interest in a car other than knowing it will get them from A to B...........provided the oversized PP9 doesn't go flat.

Still, not to worry, a quick eight hour charge will soon get you going again.

Guess again...

https://youtu.be/oQ9omrZ9hSA

And...

https://youtu.be/_nQDU7HOStc

Not so cocky now

Hmmm....Monster and instant torque gets it off the line pretty smartly, but it runs out of steam about half way down the strip.

I imagine it would be slower still as the battery charge diminishes.

Wrong again.

The system is programmed to keep the batteries below the 100% capacity on a "full" charge and to a certain level at which their life can be maintained before being "Empty".  Regardless of what the driver is told by the system the car is never really 100% full or 0% empty, it's more intelligent than that.  Thus throughout the charge range there is no discernable difference in torque from the (not so) loud pedal until you reach what is known on the Leaf as turtle mode where you are limited by the car as to how much torque you can apply because you literally have a couple of miles range left.

I have, on one occasion in the early days of EV ownership, coasted in to the Nissan dealership for a rapid charge (the ChaMoDo rapid chargers you see in service stations; 0-90% charge in 40 mins) having just ran out of charge and having been on the turtle for the last 5 miles which was downhill, fortunately.

This explaination is not for you Lord Opti as I know you'll never change your mind on them, but I wouldn't want your false aspertions putting other people off

You'll have to excuse my ignorance, Mr Guffer.

Electric only is not for me but I could be tempted by a 'hybrid' so long as there is a proper engine (petrol only obviously) as back up.

The Infiniti M35H has a certain appeal.They can be bought almost new for less than half price and have a proper 330 BHP 3.5 litre V6 up front.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

....although the M37 without the 'milk float engine' taking up room in the boot may be a better bet.