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[Kevin Wood]

Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot. 

Ok. I'll revise my estimate to "the electric parking brake will break first".

[henryd]

Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot. 

Ok. I'll revise my estimate to "the electric parking brake will break first".

The hill hold assist on my Touareg uses the main brakes, I dont have electric hancbrake

[Kevin Wood]

The hill hold assist on my Touareg uses the main brakes, I dont have electric hancbrake

I suppose any car that has traction control or ESP has the hardware in the ABS system to do it, and it's probably smoother to release than a motorised handbrake.

[Nick W]

Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot. 

Ok. I'll revise my estimate to "the electric parking brake will break first".

Oh yes. They're shit

[TheBoy]

Oh Lordy, we don't have another road user more interested in mpg than progress?

They're getting more problematic than caravanners 

What's the point in driving like a loon? I see it all time, someone weaving out all of the lanes, hard away from the line. Heavy braking, then hard away again. I catch them up at the slip roads, or lights, so whats the point?

Why do I need to rush to get to work, it's only work! 

So when is the tow bar being fitted then?

Besides, so much for my "Diesel Killer" commute 

Lets see in a year or so, when if fails to complete regeneration.

[TheBoy]

Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot. 

Ok. I'll revise my estimate to "the electric parking brake will break first".

Oh yes. They're shit

The VAG ones especially according to one of my holiday buddies who runs a garage...

[TheBoy]

What's the point in driving like a loon?

And being serious for a minute, its not about being a nutter.

Those more interested in mpg/do-gooding than anything else cause everything to else to come to a crawl, selfishly impacting everyone else's progress.  Probably more-so than those constantly lane swerving, or the retards on the M40 who won't leave the outside lane until the cheverons start at the slip road they need to get off at, causing all lanes to have to come to a standstill.


In fact, one of the reasons for my previous poor economy was all the do-gooding tosspots driving so slow, making my 24 mile commute take over an hour, and my average speed over several tankfuls to drop below 30mph. My mpg has improved with the new commute, simply because being mostly dual carriageway/motorway, I can (eventually) get past these selfish, self-centred idiots (we all know the type - lane hoggers, those that take 10 miles in outside lane to overtake middle lane car, as they won't do more than 56mph for fear of not getting a gazillion mpg).


Line 'em up for the culling.


//TB goes off and breaths deeply

[STEMO]

I hate sincerely dislike the idiots who sit at a junction in front of you on a 60mph road, wait till you're almost upon them, then pull out and proceed at 40-50.
Why can't they wait until the road is clear then, at least, if you come up behind them, you're not steaming from the ears and likely to attempt an unsafe overtake*

[STEMO]

*Unsafe overtake.
In my astra, any overtake where I haven't got half a mile of clearly visible road. 

[Nick W]

*Unsafe overtake.
In my astra, any overtake where I haven't got half a mile of clearly visible road. 

Move to France, where overtaking is a simple matter of pulling out and going for it. Speed, space, oncoming traffic, weather conditions, junctions and all of the things we used to be taught to consider are irrelevant.

[TheBoy]

I hate sincerely dislike the idiots who sit at a junction in front of you on a 60mph road, wait till you're almost upon them, then pull out and proceed at 40-50.
Why can't they wait until the road is clear then, at least, if you come up behind them, you're not steaming from the ears and likely to attempt an unsafe overtake*

There was a thing that I first noticed in Milton Keynes about 5 or 6 years ago, where nobody will pull out of a roundabout (and there are a fair few roundabouts there) until something was coming.  Its so common there now, you don't even notice.  You even slow down going around the roundabout if you can see traffic waiting to pull out, as you know they will....

[Kevin Wood]

Move to France, where overtaking is a simple matter of pulling out and going for it. Speed, space, oncoming traffic, weather conditions, junctions and all of the things we used to be taught to consider are irrelevant.

Yes, indeed. I overtook about a 5 or 6 cars and an HGV on one of those long straights you get on the French roads, in the Westfield. About half way past everything, I hit the rev limiter. On changing up, I realised that I was actually in 4th gear, not 3rd. Cue mental calculation :" Hmm. rev limiter in 4th is <mumble> MPH." Didn't want to risk a glance at the speedo to double check.

[Nick W]

Move to France, where overtaking is a simple matter of pulling out and going for it. Speed, space, oncoming traffic, weather conditions, junctions and all of the things we used to be taught to consider are irrelevant.

Yes, indeed. I overtook about a 5 or 6 cars and an HGV on one of those long straights you get on the French roads, in the Westfield. About half way past everything, I hit the rev limiter. On changing up, I realised that I was actually in 4th gear, not 3rd. Cue mental calculation :" Hmm. rev limiter in 4th is <mumble> MPH." Didn't want to risk a glance at the speedo to double check.

When I leave my aunt's house at 08:00 on a Sunday with a 50mile trip to the motorway and another 650 after that, I like to make progress


So that's sit a couple of car lengths behind the 40mph obstruction, with the sport button pressed; pull out, and when the car is straight, floor it, pass the 3 caravans, and have it change back into fourth just as the rev limiter cuts in. Quite satisfying, and it's about the only time my car gets revved past 4000rpm.

[Andy B]

Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot. 

Ok. I'll revise my estimate to "the electric parking brake will break first".

The hill hold assist on my Touareg uses the main brakes, I dont have electric hancbrake

likewise  (times 3 ..... 2 Smarts & the Merc  )

[Nick W]

Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot. 

Ok. I'll revise my estimate to "the electric parking brake will break first".

Oh yes. They're shit

The VAG ones especially according to one of my holiday buddies who runs a garage...

They're no more unreliable than others(Discoveries and Meganes are common), but there isn't a manual release which makes things interesting. And expensive