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LPG Injectors: Valtek Vs OMVL

Started by tunnie, 13 August 2016, 19:38:36

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tunnie

If I do go the route of LPG'ing the 3.2, the two main kits on fleabay are the same bar the injectors.

£329 - Valtek
£339 - OMVL

Full Kit:

ECU STAG-300 ISA2 with wiring loom
Reducer SHARK
Injectors rail REG OMVLx2 3 ohm
Map/vacuum sensor PS-02
Buzzer
Temperature sensor

There is nothing in it price wise really, but what are the OMVL injectors like? I have Valtek on the 2.2, happy with them but with 3.2 need something bit more performance focused with extra horses it has.

Lazydocker

Never heard of that reducer and pay the extra £10 for OMVL :y
Whatever it is... I didn't do it

tunnie

Quote from: NewbieDocker on 13 August 2016, 19:56:07
Never heard of that reducer and pay the extra £10 for OMVL :y

Noted  :y

The flebay kits all appear to use this vap  :-\

There is also a lot less availability on the bay with LPG kits now, I've also never found any place cheaper.

b4ndit


tunnie

Quote from: b4ndit on 13 August 2016, 22:02:47
www.lpgshop.co.uk/brands/LPGTECH.html try these see if they are any good to you :y

Thanks, awesome link.  :y :y :y

The kits as whole don't do stag for 6 pots, but looks like I can build to order, doing 300 ECU + my own VAP choice

tunnie

Current shopping list:

Vaporiser:

KME Gold 320HP @ £75. Silver does 240HP @£65. Think it's worth paying extra £10?

http://www.lpgshop.co.uk/lpg-autogas-kme-gold-reducer-vapourizer/

ECU

Stag 300 ISA2, worth QMax Plus? @£179  :-\

http://www.lpgshop.co.uk/6-cyl-ecu-stag-300-isa2/

Tank

4 Hole 80L tank @£141. + Valve set @ £80

http://www.lpgshop.co.uk/360-884-80l-4-hole-cylindrical-tank-gzwm/

Injectors

Huge range, not sure which is best? LazyDocker, any advice?  :)  :-\

tunnie

Magic jet rings a bell, can't remember if James had issues with them or solved problems.

tunnie

Also with the filler, was it best to have straight exit or one with 90 degree bend?

VXL V6

Sounds like a 3.2 LPG party could be setup....  :D

Really need to do the daily driver!

Kevin Wood

Quote from: tunnie on 13 August 2016, 22:22:49
Magic jet rings a bell, can't remember if James had issues with them or solved problems.

The only injectors that solved all the issues were the Keihins that Chris put on in the end. Not cheap, mind.

Valteks weren't too bad but had the high RPM stumble. A rebuild of mine solved that in the end but then one of them got lazy.

The AC injectors can't cope with enough fuelling range to be useful on an Omega. It'll either be lean at high revs or won't idle properly IME.
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tunnie

Quote from: Kevin Wood on 13 August 2016, 23:05:55
Quote from: tunnie on 13 August 2016, 22:22:49
Magic jet rings a bell, can't remember if James had issues with them or solved problems.

The only injectors that solved all the issues were the Keihins that Chris put on in the end. Not cheap, mind.

Valteks weren't too bad but had the high RPM stumble. A rebuild of mine solved that in the end but then one of them got lazy.

The AC injectors can't cope with enough fuelling range to be useful on an Omega. It'll either be lean at high revs or won't idle properly IME.

See what you mean, £250 per bank  :o

OMVL good enough?  :-\

Lazydocker

Magic jet were OK IIRC  :y  I think I was lucky... Mine idles ok (most of the time) and doesn't go lean. But it was more by luck than anything else I believe.

Get the gold reducer... For £10 you know it covers you.

Filler... Depends where you are fitting it but I think the 90 degree one is better :-\
Whatever it is... I didn't do it

tunnie

Quote from: NewbieDocker on 13 August 2016, 23:45:54
Magic jet were OK IIRC  :y  I think I was lucky... Mine idles ok (most of the time) and doesn't go lean. But it was more by luck than anything else I believe.

Get the gold reducer... For £10 you know it covers you.

Filler... Depends where you are fitting it but I think the 90 degree one is better :-\

Thanks LD  :y

So rather go OMVL than Magic?

I'm now looking at injector nozzles, I remember various discussions on this as some were too narrow/too wide. What was the tweaked size in the end that worked? Maybe little fatty knows best on this from his 3.2 conversion.

tunnie


Kevin Wood

Quote from: tunnie on 14 August 2016, 09:00:46
Such a range, great site this. Only trouble is knowing which ones!

http://www.lpgshop.co.uk/nozzles-for-manifold-and-injectors/

You don't need anything more than a basic M6 nozzle. These'll do fine:

http://www.lpgshop.co.uk/nozzle-o6mm-28mm/

Might even have a tapped V6 manifold in the garage you can have. Haven't looked at the "LPG bits" pile for a few years now.
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